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  • Second coil on JT

    Originally posted by slayer007 View Post
    @ Lidmotor

    Did you try adding a secondary coil on your JT yet?
    Sorry I have not yet. I was busy today replicating Kubikop's Peltier Module joule thief experiment and also trying an indoor solar panel experiment. There are so many things that I want to do and trying out different coil arrangements is just one of them.

    Lidmotor

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    • Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
      Hi Joit,

      I tested this a while back and here are my results: YouTube - Free Energy " One of a Kind Device " Claim Test

      Luc
      How about this circuit?

      The third coil must have high voltage multiplication. And the circuit driving the first coil do not have to be joule thief. The coil must have separate negative so car coil can not be used.

      I am not sure which third coil leg that must be connected to neon though.

      Nevermind, this circuit can only make a very dim light out of CFL.
      Attached Files
      Last edited by sucahyo; 01-31-2009, 05:08 AM.

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      • Hi everyone,

        I would like for all to post your opinion of the video demo below and honestly tell me what you think of the test.

        Link to video: YouTube - RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE test 13

        The fist set of Scope shots and measurements below are of a bulb as load set to 3 volts RMS but fed directly from the Signal Generator.
        The next set of Scope shots and measurements are the same bulb as load set also at 3 volts RMS but fed by the secondary of the primary resonating coil to which is fed by the signal generator at the identical frequency.

        I am posting all this to get everyone's feedback. Is this test showing any advantages using resonance?

        Thanks for your time

        Luc




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        • Feedback

          1) no, you're not wasting your time.

          2) your work to date has been very enlightening

          3) you don't seem to be able to close the loop with overunity systems, or even very very efficient ones.

          - I recommend reading the 'beating Lenz's law' thread, and the 'homework' peter lindemann set. I'm looking at electronics thru a whole different set of eyes now.

          After reading all the Depalma and tewari stuff, maybe go read a novel, whatever, let your subconscious process all the info.

          Then come back and see what is actually happening with electrons and 'magnetic' fields in your circuit.

          So, my feedback is, maybe there is a way to beat Lenz's law with your circuit, and greatly increase energy output..

          Also, I've shown that hard mechanical switching produces completely different effects to solid state circuitry..

          how big would a coil have to be (or capacitance etc) in an LC circuit for 12khz switching? Using a mechanical switch, What would happen then?

          Keep up the good work :-)

          Ps Here's some videos that show what I'm saying re switching

          Transistor different type of switch than mechanical switch

          YouTube - Inquorate 24 - slayer's big joule thief

          YouTube - Inquorate 26

          YouTube - purple neon circuit without transistor

          Mechanical switch, could be neo mag on switch contact, and motor in oil bath to reduce sparking, higher switch rates with bigger cogs..

          YouTube - regarding high speed mechanical switching
          Last edited by Inquorate; 02-02-2009, 05:44 AM. Reason: Posted wrong link
          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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          • You wanna know what i think?
            I tell you what i think !! (said the ol Lady )
            Well, i read once, that this plastic insulated Wires have way lesser induction then the usual Wires. Not sure, what is true.
            Another thing, maybe you make 2 Coils, what do match better to eachother from the Size, and the Flux is crossing better when they are closer to eachother and you center them more.
            Or move them half apart, that the S-field from one Coil is at the N field from the other, and maybe lay them down.
            You can even try to align them to the N- Pole from earth (last rescue)
            Maybe its not a bad idea too, as in the Mtu?Thread, that you make a golden ratio of 1:1,61 for the Wires, but not sure, if it is about the Impedance or the Length of the Wires.
            And i am still not sure about, wich Coil is better in the Middle, the Big one or the small wired one.
            And you can maybe look for peak Points with your adjustable Cap, if you didnt do allready.
            But at last, Nice Video as allways
            Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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            • Never a dual moment

              Hi Gotoluk

              I admire your countless hours of effort but without writing volumes of text on transformers and coils etc. I can only strongly encourage you to study the materiel others have already published. Once you have, you will realize many of the mistakes you and most others keep making looking for the easy answers, not wanting to spend the time learning the basics. I to, wasted more time wanting to play with circuits before deciding to take a short trip back and study what I had avoided for many years. Many overlook the education Tesla and others had first before they were able to improve and accomplish still more. Most of the educators that tout Tesla later learned from him, and respected his willingness to first learn all he could from them. Observing so many trying so hard to fight a battle. Wanting to do what many educated electronic experts have already worked hard and fail at, you can still achieve. At times its like watching a blind man cross a freeway. Having a good understanding of the basics is the only way to win the battle you and others want to fight. Take a step or two back. You show the interest and desire to take the challenge to go to battle but will need more than a slingshot to really enjoy the fight. When I was in school, having to learn who sailed the seven seas, and all the other B.S. made me dislike school. For years after, I hated to study until I realized if I wanted to have less failed attempts with my experiments, I needed to go back to the books. I found what I enjoy doing and now wanted to know all I could. Even at my age now, I still can’t stop learning enough to satisfy my interests even if it means taking a couple steps back now and then searching until I can find the information that is understandable. A lot of written materiel can be hard to understand so I keep looking until I find what seems easier for me to comprehend. Don’t loose the interest you have, just spend the time to be better prepared you WILL be able to move ahead much faster and enjoy the battle. Never a dual moment or end to what can be accomplished in this field
              Goodluck

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              • @gotoluc,
                I think your experiment should be usefull for learning how to make a transverter. For improvement maybe you should try to use a fixed frequency like maybe one of these frequency. You get it in resonance either by varying the number of turn or adding capacitor.

                Frequency Remarks
                1. 1.855 Hz This is a Schuman resonance and is also seen in Rysmonic
                GW resonance (÷ 2 Hz).
                2. 3.710 Hz This is also seen in Schuman.
                3. 7.42 Hz This is also seen in Schuman as a more pronounced
                resonance.
                4. 3.710 KHz These frequencies were seen in the coil tests (Cosmology
                9.275 KHz Note 3/16/96)
                18.550 KHz Also, man of these frequencies were see in
                24.115 KHz MRA tests, especially in Mini-MRA tests.
                33.390 KHz
                46.375 KHz Note: All the frequencies listed here cannot be just
                68.635 KHz mere coincidence!
                77.910 KHz
                89.040 KHz Note: The ratios of these nos. to 3.71 are 2.5, 5, 6.5,
                9, 12.5, 18.5, 21, 24, 35
                124.850 KHz


                Maybe you can get energy without the need of outside power when you succeed.


                Although personally, I would like to see the relation between the induction spike voltage with the number of wire wound turn or frequency.
                YouTube - How BEMF happen #1, LED version
                Last edited by sucahyo; 02-02-2009, 08:15 AM.

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                • Hi Luc,

                  Congratulations for your determination and hard working

                  Of course trying many different variations of circuit can bring you to lose the North, and to be kind of desapointed ...

                  Comes to my mind that the circuit must stay open in 'free energy' ...
                  So may be closing the loop might need a conversion step of the energy; for example using light on the powering circuit, and converting it to electricity through a solar panel; or using the energy produced to pulse coils to turn a motor, that mechanicaly turns an alternator ...

                  But of course many systems were working 'directly', harnessing the ZPE to light bulbs or heat stoves, or run motors ... so there are ways I'm sure.

                  For myself I was interrested by your open circuit where neon bulb was lighting with one wire only, in an open circuit configuration, like recently Dr Stiffler circuits were doing.

                  I'm very sorry not being able to help you in your tinkering, but for sure it's possible to have 'free energy', because many have done it in the past.
                  Zero Point Energy - Index - review of available information - MDG 2007

                  Also don't forget that you said that the effect was much more enhanced when bringing up the voltage !! So you might need few more volts to get a visible effect !

                  Keep on the work, and you could stop experimenting for a while, giving time to your mind to digest all the new data you just put in recently ...

                  Your previous scope shots showed the top of the sinwave above the top side of the square wave, and today they show the opposite, the top of the sinwave above the lower side of the square wave.

                  Sorry not being able to help you much,
                  good luck,
                  MDG

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                  • Input

                    @gotoluc:
                    I personally believe that resonance is the attribute of these circuits that will enable the maximum energy output and eventually giving more output than input. You have brilliantly shown the potential with your videos, that i can only agree with most others upon, are a big inspiration.
                    As with all new fields in science there is formulas/equations yet to be put together that includes all relevant physical parameters.

                    Something like Energy = function of Inductance,Frequency, Voltage/Current/Resistance probably solved for the frequency E= df that can be calculated for Emax. I can imagine also trigonometric terms in it like sin, tan etc. where you are looking for the maximum amplitude of the function.

                    Any mathematicians here? It might even be possible that some prof. dr. dr. dr. has already invented such an equation, buried in some university library in some darn place

                    Does your measurement software allow Fourier analysis?
                    Maybe there is something to extract from those waveforms that the bare eye
                    can`t see (yet)?

                    EDIT: Have you tried to find out if your resonances match the equation w = SQR (1/LC - R^2/4L^2) at all?
                    Just a thought

                    Keep up the work, many people appreciate your research
                    Xenomorph
                    Last edited by Xenomorph; 02-02-2009, 12:58 PM.

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                    • Luc,
                      Dont lose hope my friend. Even if you quit right now, what can you take from this: You have learned a great deal about electronics, you have taught and inspired many. Not to bad if you ask me. Rectified makes a good point, tesla always credited his work being possible due to his education, you have to know what you are doing. Im currently back in school myself because i just dont know enough to really be able to figure this stuff out. As far as honest input for you, here are some things that come to mind for me:
                      Measurements- Your video shows the voltage but not the current, i dont know how you could measure current at that high of a frequency, maybe a current probe for the o scope. Once again, im no expert and to tell you the truth i havnt seen anyone that really seems to know how to calculate this stuff, or the ones that do arnt helping there. So you might just have to dig in and do some hard research.
                      Closing the loop- You mentioned something about not making enough power to keep the battery powered. Bedini has always said you cant charge the same battery you are running off of. So maybe charging a second battery and swapping it with the first every once in a while is the way to go.
                      Litz wire might make it more efficient too, but probably not vital at this point.
                      Anyways keep up the good work and dont lose heart

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                      • Thank you to all who have posted All input will be considered.

                        I am not giving up but it may take more time than I thought to come up with a way to demonstrate extra energy.

                        Keep the suggestions coming and I will keep studying the effect.

                        Thanks for sharing

                        Luc

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                        • i still got stuck at the Link what stephenafreter did give.
                          Really nice Page, Thank you Stephenafreter

                          I found even some of Resonant Coils, maybe it can inspire you a bit more Luc
                          Or the Caduceus/Smith Coil, which what i fall close in Love with it
                          Easy wounded for your Big Wire one.
                          Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                          • About open loop, I think an open loop one wire neon bulb lighter could be sold as efficient electronic rust preventer. That wire should be the electron releasing part (close the loop, and put diode to verify it, I did). In electrolysis the one that have electron surplus will release hydrogen. With the car body busy trying to make hydrogen, it won't rust as fast. Although maybe other metal not connected to that one wire will rust much faster.....

                            Originally posted by Joit View Post
                            i still got stuck at the Link what stephenafreter did give.
                            Really nice Page, Thank you Stephenafreter

                            I found even some of Resonant Coils, maybe it can inspire you a bit more Luc
                            Or the Caduceus/Smith Coil, which what i fall close in Love with it
                            Easy wounded for your Big Wire one.
                            Yes, nice link stephenafreter .

                            I wish the caduceus coil test also include other coil type too, to see what make caduceus special.

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                            • Hi Joit,

                              thanks for your post, encouraging words and links.

                              @everyone, you may want to look at the OU Forum topic as user Duff is making the power calculations and is trying to understand how the effect gets so efficient

                              Here is the link to his post and my additional information below his post: RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

                              Luc

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                              • Hi everyone,

                                I know things have been quiet for some days now but don't think the topic is dead. What we are doing at this time is re-evaluating the direction the research is going to take.

                                Once that has been done we will let you know by posting the new test results.

                                Thanks for all your support and interest.

                                Luc

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