Resonance Effects For Everyone To Share

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

it's been a while since I have posted. Been busy with helping friends with home renovations and also had a chance to make some money after close to 2 years of no income.

With all this my experiments have been quite slow but I'm still at it.

I just uploaded this new video which is demonstrating the results of experiments I have done in order to observe the interaction between a Ceramic Magnet and a steel laminate core coil, using Sine Wave as input.

Nothing exciting in the video but I found it interesting to see that the previously reported 7.8Hz Shumann's Earth magnetic frequency is not the magnet peek activity frequency at this time from my test setup.
Could my setup be causing this somehow? or could it be that the Earth magnetic frequency has risen in the past year or so since Marco's dancing magnets peeking at 7.8Hz?

Video Link: YouTube - Magnetic Resonance

Post your comments as you wish.

Luc

[Raui]

Luc, that video is facinating! It reminds me a lot of the Floyd Sweet Secrets DVD where hes finding the magnetic resonances of his magnets. Perhaps if you ever get the time/money trying to demagnetize and impress the AC magnetic field apon the magnet might be a project for you. I don't believe that in a year the resonant frequency would change so dramatically. I do however believe that the resonant frequency could change over time.

If I am not mistaken Tesla measured the resonant frequency of the earth to be around 6 - 7 Hz or something of that effect. When Schumann came along some 52 - 53 years later (Tesla measured the resonant frequency when he was in Colorado Springs which was in 1899-1900).

Schumann predicted it as being 7.83Hz (mathematically) and this as since been proven by many other scientists around the world. The frequency they find doesn't permanently change however. It fluctuates and has factors which may alter the resonant frequency. I wouldn't imagine this would be by a great amount.

So basically between the 1960s (when Schumann resonance was first measured) and today 7.83 has been the frequency recognized as the the Schumann Resonance. This might well be an error but I doubt that so many people trying to measure the actual frequency would make the exact same error.

I don't think Marco's system was actually measuring the Schumann resonance. It could just be coincidence and not meaning to offend anyone however how do we know that it was even at 7.8Hz these 'dancing magnets' were observed at. If he was then it would be of note to point out with differences between your setups. This may alter the outcome or resonant frequency of the setup. Just like if I get a circuit with two different inductors and another circuit with just one single inductor the resonant frequency does change. Just something to think about.

- Raui

[gotoluc]

Hi Raui,

thanks for looking at this topic and taking the time to post the information.

I do agree with everything you have written.

I have now been informed that Marco's setup used a Ferrite core coil. This could change the effect since my coil has a steel laminate core.

I will try new experiments with with a ferrite toroid core coil to see if it effects the magnet in any different ways.

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi all,

it has been brought to my attention (I also had a feeling it could be) that this is an electro-mechanical resonance phenomenon, so I have retested but using a Ferrite core coil and got the same oscillation peak at 9.63Hz using the 3/4" magnet I used in the video demo and then changed the magnet for a 1" round ceramic of the same thickness and the peek frequency dropped by about 2Hz.

I will take the video down since I do not wish to mislead anyone.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Luc

[brusers]

fun with lcs replication

Hello everyone, not to rattle this subject around too much, but I'm still working on replicating the fun with lcs setup that was given earlier in this post, and I need a little help.
I've tried a many coils and I have got 2 LEDs and a 5v bulb to now light across the open center tesla like coil. On a few occasions I did have the light on the secondary brighter than the primary. The problem I'm having is they are not that bright, maybe 1/3 or 1/4 of what they should be, and I can't get it to run motors like on the video. The whole system should be working around the resonant frequency of the long tesla type coil in the center. And I believe I'm just not hitting it, so it's just partially working.
Does anyone know how to find the resonant frequency of an open end bifilar coil? In the end it will be connected to nothing, I'm not sure how to probe about to find that frequency, or if the fact that it will be open even changes anything.
I've tried pulsing only one end (other end open) with a loose coupling to my scope, and I've tried both ends of the generator on the coil with a 1Mohm resistor. Both gave about the same result. Finding the highest amplitude (Vmax) I doubled that frequency to give me 1/2 wave, so that I could get Imax on either end and the Vmax in the center... Then I try to built my primary and pickup coil to have a resonant frequency of the same, which I might also be messing up some how..
Can anyone find any holes in this process? Any help would greatly appreciated.
I've done drowned myself in research, maybe I should go fishing for a weekend and clear the head.

Thanks,

Marcel

[gotoluc]

Hi Marcel,

a break is not a bad idea if your head is too full of information. I always find it useful to put a project aside and work on something else or just take a rest from it. New ideas will come in time or maybe someone will answer you with what you're looking for.

Sorry I can't help you any more!... all I know I believe was shared.

All the best in your research and do share your results when you find what you're looking for.

Luc

[brusers]

tuning

Hey, I appreciate it anyway..
I have tried a few different ways of finding the resonant frequency of these secondarys that I have wound, some methods from these posts, and I believe I'm just doing it wrong.
I keep coming up with the same freq for different coils = generator and scope are messing with my results. So I have to find a way to isolate it, and I'm pretty sure that will clear up what I'm stumbling over.
Progress is slow, but it's still there, so I'm not complaining.
Hope all is well, talk to you later.

Marcel

[brusers]

a little more

I just had to post about this replication of the fun with lcs setup.
On my pickup coil I have LED's, a Christmas light bulb, and a small motor all in series. On a good day I was getting a small glow from the bulb filament, and the motor would spin easier one way but not run.
I tried a couple more wind configurations, some more probing around with my alligator clips on needles taking the place of taps, and I got my pickup bulb to get a bit more bright.
So I bypassed the bulb on the primary (input coil), wondering just how much the resistance of the bulb was effecting the oscillations, and the damn motor on the pickup coil took off.
I had to sit there for a while and watch it.. lol.
I'm still off the resonant frequency a bit I think because there should be more getting across to the pickup, but I'm definitely on the right track.
Good stuff for sure.
Anyway, to bed now, just had to post that.. I'll try and get some pics soon, the next few days will be busy with work, but I'll be back at it soon.

Marcel

[brusers]

replication

Alright, I got a few pics and video of my replication and put them together here.
fun with lcs replication
The setup is far from ideal, The primary is not resonating correctly, but it's close to the resonance frequency of the secondary so it's propagating. As you can see by the lamp, input energy is still being expended more than it should be.
It's working at about 1.4 Mhz, and has a very small bandwidth.
I never did find out for sure what the resonant frequency was supposed to be for that particular secondary, so I'm not sure if it's half wave, or full, etc. I've not probed around to see how many nodes there are. I just kept making different coils, and watched to see if I got more energy across, then made another, etc.. spent a lot of time and wire this way, but it eventually worked.
Still a lot of work to be done here to understand all this. Very exciting to see it working though!
So I probably won't post on this much after this. The process has been achieved for the group. Now it's all about perfecting it.
I did get a self oscillating Bedini charger to run off the output just fine. Another open loop application. Now if I can just find a way to switch at 1.4 Mhz for about 50ma..
So yes, I can see there is hours and hours of study time involved in this, I'm sure I'll be with it for a while.
Hope you enjoy the video, sorry it was a bit short.

Marcel

[gotoluc]

Hi Marcel,

thanks for taking the time to do this video demo and posting it here.

It looks very good to me and I hope you continue experimenting and tweaking your setup.

Please let us know of your progress.

Luc

[brusers]

to be continued

I'm sure I will be messing with this for a while.
And if I come up with anything postable, I will do so.
It's such an interesting setup. At certain frequencies I would hear this strange whining sound, and something like air coming out of a compressor tube.
I looked inside the long secondary, and the one wire that doubles back for the bifilar connection was glowing purple like a plasma ejecting from it, and it bit me.. ha ha. My first RF burn?
What is interesting about it is it's an open circuit, and the input that I am using is only 12 volts..
But yeah, I'll keep the group in mind.
Hope all is well.

Marcel

[peterpunk]

My first resonance experiences

I'm a newbie and started doing things with fans, coils and photocopier motors.

I build a bifilar coil with #30 awg and 500 turns aprox and when with bedini circuit I adjust the pot to put it in resonance I got a very high voltage spikes, and the amp draw is between 120ma and 180ma

I charge batteries really fast with the SCR implementation as stated on FE book from bedini.

Today I connected a rewound photocopier motor that has 9 poles, I just rewound 6 leaving 3 empty, now connected to power and when it start to resonance I get a very high voltage again and charge batteries so fast with scr too. Amp draw 250ma to 300ma and 9 volts.

I curious because if I start to run the motor, the amp draw is about 60ma but charge seems to be slower than the other proportionally.

So what advantage has each method, solid state against mechanical movement?

Sorry about my english

P

[gotoluc]

Hi peterpunk,

and your English is very good

I think you may want to look at the Bedini topic here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...bedini-sg.html

I don't think your motor is working at resonance since the coils would have to be very large to do so. I could be wrong but from what I know motors work at low frequencies and a coil would need many thousands of turns to resonate at these low frequencies.

If any one has more information on this, please do post.

Luc

[peterpunk]

Yes, I was thought about it , may be "resonance" is not the right word.

The coil start to self oscillate and make some noise, and great voltage.

How can I determine the freq of self oscillation?

Now I'm charging and descharging batteries to see the performance.

I will move to the other topic.

Thanks for your answer.

P

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

it has been a while since I posted new information in this tread but to let those who have been following the research that I have posted a new video at a topic which can be fund here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...bemf-coil.html

I have been studying the combination effects of a magnet with coil and decided to start new topic since it does not have much to do with coil resonance.

Luc