Splitting The Positives

[DavidE]

Four hour test.
Battery 1 12v 7.2Ah, Start 13.53v End 14.07v +.54v
Battery 2 12v 5Ah, Start 10.59v End 11.25v +.66v

Both batteries were pulled out of storage. Neither had been
conditioned with Bedini type chargers.

I don't get it...

[Joit]

My Tip is, the Coil start oscillating, and push something forward.
Since you allready play areound with it, i would try magnetic Wire, a unpoled Cap at the Side from the Diode, and maybe make the Coil larger.

Where is your Ground connected to?
Just to Batteries?
And even a Batterie has inside a Connection between - and +.

[DavidE]

Joit

Ground is connected to "earth."

I will try another coil.

[DavidE]

After additional test...

The little coil in the Imhotep relay works fine as the coil. Just connect each side tab to one positive battery terminal.

It doesn't seem to matter which battery is where, they both charge.

If either battery is fully charged, the other seems to charge at a faster rate... but does NOT diminish the fully charged battery. I believe the earth ground to be important.

The highest charge I have seen on a battery in this configuration is 15.5v with a 12v 5Ah lead acid battery.

I still don't get it. It is tooooooo stupid simple.

[Jetijs]

It is tooooooo stupid simple.

Indeed
Thank you for your tests.

[ws116]

Diode

David,

Thanks for posting your results.

What diode are you using in the circuit?

[DavidE]

60 min test.
Battery 1 12v 7.5Ah, Start 13.17v End 13.38v +.21v
Battery 2 12v 5Ah, Start 16.05v End 16.33v +.28v

[DavidE]

ws116,


Diode
1N4007
1N5399

Both of these seem to work.

[Bodkins]

Will try this when i get home!!! Great Work DE
Have you tryed a load test?

[Sephiroth]

Hi David,

Is your meter definately working properly? seems too good to be true, lol

[boguslaw]

Looks like simplified Stubblefield coil.

[patmac]

Sephiroth & DavidE

maybe because the batteries are sulphated

But if batt are sulphated, is possible by using another relay to charge a good batt conditioned with them. Obviously is very slow, but can works, here only we need the potential.

I've a sulphated batt and voltage is high with the SG, 14.4 volts within only a few seconds.

[DavidE]

Based on prior understandings and experimental data... both batteries charging at the same time I have never experienced. Getting a handle on why it works at all may allow us to amplify to significant results. Daylight hours seems to produce best results, but I still don't understand the source of the mechanism.

Sephiroth

Is your meter definately working properly?

It would appear so.


Bodkins

Have you tryed a load test?

Yesterday I used several different coils, not all produced the same results. The Imhotep relay coil seemed to work as good as anything tested. Load? I have tried many different combinations, all others produced declining voltages. Knowing that batteries can be squirrely, I have now substituted capacitors at battery locations. I will report results later in the day.


Do any of you monitor the standing voltages of your battery stock? A few weeks back I started taking readings and noticed that some batteries would bounce between 11-14v. Different days, different voltages. These are just batteries sitting on a shelf. Its almost as if they are responding to environmental factors that change from day to day.

This circuit may just be picking up microwaves (or other) and converting them to usable voltage. I have noticed different rates of charging. And there is just a variable or two (actually countless) that may be causing this. In several areas I am working on the fundamentals, then proving that application of them will allow for scalability. The fewer elements being observed, the more likely to catch natures fingerprint.

[slayer007]

@DavidE

Did you try this with more than one meter?
Sorry but it does look like your batteries are getting low.
If you could try new batteries or a differant meter and see if you can get the same results.

[theremart]

RE: test..

I tried this last night and my batteries lost voltage. What is your ground like? My ground is 4 foot of 1/2 inch stranded copper wire sunk into the ground.

Always hopeful you have indeed found something