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  • #31
    Originally posted by broli View Post
    Can you guys maybe advise how to get started when you have no measuring tools, building material and barely money? The only thing I have plenty is TIME.
    I get most of my parts, like wires, Caps, Transformers from Junkyard and from friends, when they trow something, like a Microwave, or Videorecorders.
    Lately i 'recyled' a Satreciver, and got about 20 or more 1n4007 Diodes out.
    The Ironcore from Transformer is good for to play with it too.
    You cannot figure, what you can find at a Junkyard.
    At Coolermotors from cars you can find Ceramic Bananamagents.
    And i get lot other AC motors from there, where i can take the Wire, mostly about 0,4mm.
    When i would need to buy them, then it would realy go expansive.
    Isolated Copperwire at this Size is really to expansive to buy, when you cant resell it.
    I only buyed a few NE-Magnets and couple Screws lately, but they are not to expansive too, most been around 0,3-0,4€uros each.
    And for measurement, you only can figure, what could work, and try out, then you got your Results too


    @Ted, yes, the Field need to switch between S and N. thats where i think around too.
    But when i hold this strong magnets all time at Hands and play around, i go dizzy, lol.

    The Ecklingenerator was, what i ve meant, the Rmot is similar build, what i have seen.
    There is at one Side a Gap like at this Picture of the Generator.
    But anyhow, i think its better, to have moving Magnets, and the magnetised Iron as sideeffect, as plus, to get Current out.Only changing the Flux at the Iron i guess, is less Force, where you can get currrent from.
    Well, i will see.
    Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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    • #32
      This is one important tread, magnetic flux modulation could very well make you energy independent. The MEG does it electrically while the Ecklin generator does it mechanically, but it seems to be easier to understand.

      If you want to improve its output, try to provide a direct path to the coil instead of "shorting" the magnet itself. This is one way to tap the unlimited power hidden inside out permanent magnets

      Julian

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      • #33
        Very Cool ... Love innovators .. Keep us informed!
        Powering America's Renewable Future

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Naboo View Post
          This is one important tread, magnetic flux modulation could very well make you energy independent. The MEG does it electrically while the Ecklin generator does it mechanically, but it seems to be easier to understand.

          If you want to improve its output, try to provide a direct path to the coil instead of "shorting" the magnet itself. This is one way to tap the unlimited power hidden inside out permanent magnets

          Julian
          Hi Julian,
          I agree. This is a very promising field.
          I've come a long way in my understanding of this principal since starting this thread. I'm working on a motor right now which incorporates these principals.
          Think of the force that a couple of big neodymium magnets have on each other and the amount of power they can create. This is what is possible here.
          You can switch on and off any size magnet, and recover most of the switching energy. This I have done already. The rest is just engineering.

          Cheers,

          Ted

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          • #35
            I wish you success, always feel free to en lighting us .

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            • #36
              Originally posted by broli View Post
              I wish you success, always feel free to en lighting us .
              I'm trying to get something that's working and has some numbers to show before I post anything. I've been changing directions a lot lately which really makes it confusing trying to keep my postings coherent. It's hard enough just trying to keep my own thoughts coherent.
              I'm excited about this latest motor, but it still has a lot of work to go. I'm using 100 volt DC pulses through two big coils which develop one hell of a spike. I'm frying large, 1000volt IGBT's and 20 amp toggle switches left and right. Consequently I am building a larger load center to handle the extra power.
              The coils are bifilers, which should kill the spike once I get a decent load on the secondary coils.
              100 volts through a big coil will absolutely switch two 2 x1 x 1/2" neos. Now I just have to work on recovery efficiency, timing and pulsewidth.

              Cheers,

              Ted

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              • #37
                There are quite a variety of 1.5K IGBTs at digikey for reasonable price.
                4-5K volt IGBTs ... not so nice price.

                David P.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by eternalightwithin View Post
                  There are quite a variety of 1.5K IGBTs at digikey for reasonable price.
                  4-5K volt IGBTs ... not so nice price.

                  David P.
                  The problem wasn't the IGBT, it was not having somewhere for the spike to go. High voltage can only build up if there is no escape path. I was testing different voltages to determine how much power it takes to switch the magnet off and didn't realize how powerful the inductive spike was becoming. I was basically lazy and impatient and paid the price.
                  I have to say though, that the IGBT is the switch of choice. It is either on or off, takes very little current to switch and is fast as hell. They have a high current rating, low voltage drop and work far better as a switch than any normal transistor.
                  I can drive a large IGBT with the current from an optical sensor. This makes motor switching a breeze. I like these things.

                  Ted

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                  • #39
                    Ted I don't know whether you've seen this before, but butch was doing some very good research which didn't really get popular. I was looking back at it and thought it might be of benefit to you.

                    YouTube - Proof balance system supports overunity of LaFonte Group Magnet Motor, magnets apart and together

                    That experiment applies to this design:

                    YouTube - LaFonte Group Magnet Motor A3

                    Although his experiment is not complete it shows potential promise. When the magnets are together the steel block close on them so the magnets can be moved apart effortlessly. When they are furthest apart the steel blocks open and the magnets attract violently, and the cycle repeats.

                    The upper magnets are there to act as an energy balancing method. So the closing and opening of the steel blocks happens with no effort.

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                    • #40
                      Unbalanced Transformer???

                      I have also been working with a similar concept - my concept started with the first transformer ever made (if you believe in history books)
                      See "Faraday's ring transformer" Transformer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                      I took the simple design - removed coils from input side - cut a slot for neodymium magnets to pass through (on input side core). This way you get magnetic flux passing through the coil without actually passing the magnets through the coils (or near the coils)
                      It seems that your design with the magnets inside the core is operating as a simple transformer with permanent magnet enhancement that saves no more than it costs to "Flip" polarity.!?
                      Just a brainstorming thought - please inform
                      Harold

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                      • #41
                        What does it look like?

                        Originally posted by GEODESIC View Post
                        I have also been working with a similar concept - my concept started with the first transformer ever made (if you believe in history books)
                        See "Faraday's ring transformer" Transformer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                        I took the simple design - removed coils from input side - cut a slot for neodymium magnets to pass through (on input side core). This way you get magnetic flux passing through the coil without actually passing the magnets through the coils (or near the coils)
                        It seems that your design with the magnets inside the core is operating as a simple transformer with permanent magnet enhancement that saves no more than it costs to "Flip" polarity.!?
                        Just a brainstorming thought - please inform
                        Harold
                        Does it look anything like this? The Tom Bearden Website

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                        • #42
                          I like this one the ideas here are very solid.
                          I think that when the activator coil is juiced with the polarity that reinforces the PM flux, care has to be taken not to overflux the core material. That wastes the precious flux. But how would one really know without breaking out the gaust meters and getting surgical with the math? The stratagey I am looking at using here is... With the PM stack I would try and use thin magnets so if I suspected over satuarating of the core material, magnets could be removed and replaced with steel washers. This way by trial and error one could attenuate the PM flux to core mas ratio. Also by biasing the gate or base of transistors with trim pots the current in the switching coils can be attenuated if necessary.
                          I was supprised how difficult it is to get the coils right. But yes I agree with you guys on that. Joseph Newmanising the coils as far as room will allow, Bifilar series coils, and higher voltage and higher impedance are the way to get the most bang for your buck.

                          Forgive me if I have dwelled to much on the obvious.

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