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  • #16
    Electrophorus

    Its just a way of charging something similar i guess to a vandegraff. Here is the link Electrophorus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You can pick up a unit for 20 or so dollar or even make one. The cool thing about it is that it is cheap and anyone could do it. Though i am unsure of what the effect will be given the mystical nature of the pentagram. It definitly as shape is perfect for the job. Even cooler is it dosnt need to be 3d like a pyramid so if there is charge denisty creating an anomolous collumn then you could easily experiment with the collumn maybe with crystals or plant i dont know. Dont point it it a person though. If you do try it id be interested in the results.

    Originally posted by Bodkins View Post

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    • #17
      Oops read wrong

      Oops sorry Bodkins i read that wrong. To eager aye

      Originally posted by Bodkins View Post

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      • #18
        Stanley Meyers was using this technology.

        He was oscillating the atom itself using using ``some kind of field``

        Maybe it caused the hydrogen atom to emit ``radiant energy``
        Last edited by dankie; 12-21-2008, 04:52 AM.

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        • #19
          What is inertia?
          i dont have a problem with it. why do we think being still is the natural state.
          everything in the cosmos moves nothing stands still.

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          • #20
            Radiant event

            The commonalities between the meyer cell and the requirements for radiant energy are definitly there such as the unipolar pulse. This was however to ensure the polaization effect of the water. He wanted every pulse applied to add up essentiatlly. However i am not convinced that it is a radiant event.
            You can see that Stanley Meyer was a true blue person and that he really believed that what he had invented was going to get out to the people and so he hid nothing in the patent. His whole method was centered around polarzation and limiting of current. At no time did he want leakage which is why he use curved electrodes such as pipes. Though under standard electrolysis sanding the surface to create greater surface area would be of benefit it would be detrmental to the Meyer process. If polarization truly was the aim then i cant see why you wouldnt coat one of the electrodes with a non conductor to reduce the leakage. You will still get the polarization. Heres the patent. It seems to have all the info to build one nothing hidden
            Gas generator voltage control circuit - Google Patents


            Originally posted by dankie View Post
            Stanley Meyers was using this technology.

            He was oscillating the atom itself using using ``some kind of field``

            Maybe it caused the hydrogen atom to emit ``radiant energy``

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            • #21
              Inertia

              Sorry i probably didnt word the puzzle right. I was trying to get at what you thought the cause of inertia was in relationship to gravity or mass time.

              I thought i had it for a bit but nah. ah well


              Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
              What is inertia?
              i dont have a problem with it. why do we think being still is the natural state.
              everything in the cosmos moves nothing stands still.

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              • #22
                Meyer cell

                Just one thing though of topic Meyer clearly stated that he could use any type of water. This means that the process had to be the same all of the time. Given that water of type has different conductivity and current leakage is the enemy it would seem that truly is a polaization event. Currently everyone that builds cells seems to do everything to increase current drain which is a shame. Using rectangle plates which edges and sanding the surface.

                Originally posted by dankie View Post
                Stanley Meyers was using this technology.

                He was oscillating the atom itself using using ``some kind of field``

                Maybe it caused the hydrogen atom to emit ``radiant energy``

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dmonarch View Post
                  Sorry i probably didnt word the puzzle right. I was trying to get at what you thought the cause of inertia was in relationship to gravity or mass time.

                  I thought i had it for a bit but nah. ah well
                  had what???????idea cause of inertia???Im up for ideas Maybe inertia is matter?

                  I read somewhere that if you charge a plate with Hv and cover with wax and fur in a magnetic field it has very interesting quailty. will research and get back to you,Electret
                  I think we may have something here with the Electrophorus looks like a planet to me
                  Man This is Great stuff

                  Why do wheels on cars look like there going backward at some speeds? Time?
                  Its well know that the mind sorts images out and see things that are not there, the machine re-alines the problems with the input, so judgment can be made on past experience.
                  So what you see is how you will see in the future.


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                  Last edited by Bodkins; 12-21-2008, 07:32 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Inertia

                    @ bodkins, dankie is trying to get you to realise that all forces, matter and states of matter are due to resonance effects in the aether.. Thus all matter moves through the aether like sound waves move through steel. The aether is solid like steel, and matter is not solid, like sound waves. AND, just like steel may be polarized magnetically, the aether has streams. But the aether is a bunch of vortex / spirals in order to transfer this 'motion' of a 'stream'.

                    As matter passes thru the solid aether, it encounters these spirals which create a particular vibration in the matter's atoms... This resonance wants to continue. This resistance caused is the effect of inertia.

                    To follow on from this, consider the 'random' motion of molecules, ie brownish motion. Atoms have a pos and neg. We know from our experiments electromagnetism interacts with aether. It is the random polarization of electromagnetic field of atom which gives it it's random seeming motion.

                    As to gravity, what is the polarization of electricity on the earth? as the earth moves through the aether, the impacts with matter creates electrons. We can verify this by our experiments. Thus the aether impacting on electrons is the cause of motion in a body.

                    How do we create anti-gravity? Reverse the polarization of electricity, AND destroy the vortex action of the aether.

                    Theoretically then we can create a vessel inside of which there is no inertia, which can effortlessly accelerate to thousands of kph in an instant, and vice versa.

                    Tesla knew this. He wrote a letter to the effect, and it was the basis of his electrogravitics book which the fbi seized at his death. Tesla travelled around london in an oven sized vehicle, before the wright brothers 'flight'. Google this if you wish. The letter he wrote was full of hope.

                    The germans had figured out this technology and this was how the 'foo fighters' worked. America now has it... And will probably stage an 'alien invasion', which is he one thing people would need in order to accept a one world government.

                    @bodkins, read william lynne's books I've sent to you after you forward them to Aromaz. Also read 'the biggest secret' by david icke. That's on the dvd's as well.

                    Love and light
                    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                    • #25
                      Oops

                      I said dankie but I meant dmonarch. I took too much lsd when I was 18, have trouble keeping things straight and with memory recall. Got a wonderful understanding of the fractal / holographical / interconnected / timeless nature of reality though
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • #26
                        Charging fractal forms

                        I should have kept wrote on inertia when i wrote the question. I am not sure now, guess getting tired. Sleep is still an issue for me at the moment.

                        Yeah i think some anomolous something will occur when a pentagram is charged. What charge to use i dont know maybe different effect, maybe same. It should be easy to test though as the discharge rate in open air should be different from say a circle or the same area. You would think by nature due to the 5 sharp points that iw ould discharge quicker but then again that might not be the case. It might also be a matter of annealing where by the slower you discharge the pentagram to the ground during the polarization process the better the charge density and fractal embededness.

                        Yeah i bought most of the stuff to make an electret just havnt done so yet. Well when i say most of the stuff i bought the two waxes required. All i need now is well really nothing, i could probably make do with the barbecue to heat the wax, Just not quite sure how i will cast it and apply hv at the same time.without arcing. I guess i will be making the first few mistakes, dont matter though just melt it again. An electret is a dipole so yeah it would be interested to see how a dipole is effected by form. I guess i could use a pentagram cookie cutter to form the wax or something. I think i would make it not more thicker than a cm first off though

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                        • #27
                          Shape and charge denisty

                          As well instead of using a conductor you could use a non conductor but then the problem is that it is unlikly the charge denisty will anneal as it is unable to move on the surface. Of course the other choice and is and this is probably the better one. Which is to make a metal pentagram and dip the edges in wax or something. That would do the job im sure of it.

                          So what other fractal shapes like the pentagram are there. The star of david I dont think has any of the necessary properties. A triangle would work but would eb boring i am sure. The pentagram has them yummy properties.

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                          • #28
                            Charge denisty in fractal formations

                            Darn this has gotten way off topic again from radiant energy. I'll start another thread for it.
                            And yeah i made a boo boo the star of david would work except it would be balanced

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                            • #29
                              The way this is done never results in amp flow , even with the most conductive of materials.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dankie View Post
                                The way this is done never results in amp flow , even with the most conductive of materials.
                                pontential difference is the point once you have that it gets interesting

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