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  • #46
    Exactly

    The manger scene shown today in the middle of winter has nothing to do with Jesus. Shepherds watching their flocks by night puts the time in the warm season of the year. Again nothing to do with Jesus.

    Then if that is not enough according to the text Mary and Joesph were on the run because they were protecting the young child, so the King got all P.O.'ed after about 2 years and sent the wise men out to lay a trap to catch this promised seed. Giving gifts to find the place where the seed was living.

    Today in modern worship the time of Jesus birth has nothing to do with the Bible text and it doesn't matter if people believe the story or not, at least if they had half a brain and could read the text they would know that Xmas celebrated today has nothing to do with Jesus.

    Besides if DEC 25 was Jesus birthday why does everyone else besides Jesus get gifts? It has nothing to do with rational thinking, in fact the so called Christians don't know what gOd they serve.

    But at least once a year, they often reluctantly come together, smiling and saying nice things. The rest of the year is another subject when the phony bologna falls off.

    That is why the missile with the baby Jesus in it, being shot at their enemies is far more honest than the twisted up mess the chUrches promote, they call love.

    Now some will say "Where is your Love Mikey"??? WHERE? MIKEY?

    I am showing you love by telling you the truth. IN HIM IS NO LIE, or didn't the people read the TEXT?

    Now you have the preacher who will never go along with a lie and like we find in Jer 10 XMAS is a lie and pagan having nothing to do with Jesus.

    I am sure many of you hearing this will be outraged and turn your hate toward me because you don't understand. Don't forget LOVE LOVE LOVE and watch that hate for rational thinking boys and girls.

    Love is seeing a need where folks are lost and in a tail spin not knowing where they are and what is going on, then showing the right thought, even if I am degraded in doing so.

    Yes, "may God bless you" and part of that blessing is to share the things each of us has learned from the debts.

    Every day is a blessing.

    Mikey


    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    yup

    Last edited by BroMikey; 12-25-2014, 03:29 AM.

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    • #47
      Cyril of Jerusalem (348-386) had access to the original Roman birth census, which also documented that Jesus was born on the 25th of December. The date eventually became the officially recognized date for Christmas in part because it coincided with the pagan festivals celebrating Saturnalia and the winter solstice.

      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

      Jesus


      Merry Christmas to one and all.

      -Altrez

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      • #48
        When was Yeshua born?

        A friend more knowledgeable than I says this is the right time of year but it was on the Jewish calendar, not the Julian calendar. (That should be obvious, I would think.) Therefore, since their calendar is based on the lunar cycle, the appropriate "date" would vary when expressed on the Julian calendar, much like Easter does. Therefore, there is no way for us to set the date as December 25. It is also, in my opinion, clear that the whole season has been "paganized". If you choose to celebrate, you should feel free to explain it to your own satisfaction. Celebrate friends and "good cheer" in your own way, if that is your choice. It was a pleasant thought for me to hear there is a reasonable explanation and decent evidence that Jesus Christ was actually born around December and not September. Explain that? I can't do ALL your thinking for you! Good luck with your preconceived notions, prejudices and biases. You will probably need it.

        MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!
        There is a reason why science has been successful and technology is widespread. Don't be afraid to do the math and apply the laws of physics.

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        • #49
          Open to learn?

          For those who are interested to hear from a thinker at a university read this essay. No Lie is of the Truth.

          Biblical Evidence Shows Jesus Christ Wasn't Born on Dec. 25 - Good News Magazine | United Church of God


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiVgLInIRJ4


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          • #50
            Jidl Alert

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            • #51
              A story

              rickoff,
              Your picture reminded me of a story about some sheep that got lost in a blizzard in Utah. It seems the branches of the trees were weighted down by ice and snow and the sheep huddled close to the base of the trees seeking shelter, and froze to death there. Later, when the ice and snow melted, the branches lifted back up to where they had been, taking the sheep with them. When the rancher went looking for the sheep after the thaw, he found them...up in the trees. My grandfather used to tell that story. Whether it is fact or fiction, I don't really know, but it's a good story

              Dave
              “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
              —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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              • #52
                I Heard they Had Santa in the smoke filled room in France [Global warming conference ]

                While they applaud his use of Reindeer and would like to see much more of this , they take issue with his use of Coal for the "bad" children ??
                Aside from his carbon crimes he is also on the carpet for his "good or bad" theme song
                Apparently there will no longer be good or bad children ....

                I think his next appointment is with the gender folks......

                Next year I think Santa will just hum his theme song ,.(compromise for now)

                All Santa's problems aside with the powers that be.

                wishing all here a happy holiday

                and keeping inline with the wishes of the fellows in the smoke filled rooms.

                may your carbon footprint be Greatly Diminished in the coming year
                and replaced by More Planet friendly technologies.

                respectfully
                Chet K
                PS for Dave's story above

                youtube goats in trees - Bing video
                Last edited by RAMSET; 12-24-2015, 06:29 PM.
                If you want to Change the world
                BE that change !!

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                • #53
                  The first book ever read by the public was the HOLY Bible.

                  Let's remember that our intellect is God given, what a powerul

                  force it is. Watch the hand and the mind operate of a
                  pure youth. 16 yr old Tina

                  May GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!!

                  [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJi8iSpzq9I#t=197[/VIDEO]

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                  • #54
                    Don't wait for Dec 25 to rejoice and show THE LOVE OF GOD.

                    The Truth.

                    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGfcwY5yKI[/VIDEO]



                    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQI9EXzows[/VIDEO]
                    Last edited by BroMikey; 12-24-2015, 09:07 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Sorry, a bit late...
                      Then, if this is about remembering Jesus's birth, then we are all late (or early) since it is obvious in the Bible that Jesus was not born in the winter (the shepherd were out in the fields). More likely than not, the Vatican has moved this celebration as far as possible from the actual date, which would then be 25 June.

                      Best wishes for the New Year!
                      (at least I got those out in time)



                      Ernst.
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                      • #56
                        Hallo Dankie

                        Ek kan aflei dat jy of n afrikaner of n afstammeling van ons moet wees,dit is net so jammer dat jy nog nie besef het waaroor die KERSFEES ding gaan nie....gaan lees bietjie man...dis nie bybels....so hou op om n stuk hout te aanbid, want dit is wat almal doen wat kersfees vier...

                        bestse groete

                        quantum

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                        • #57
                          Hi Ernst..Bro Mike

                          you are both so true in what you ere saying,I am in disregard with my own family because I believe the same,but nevertheless will not stand back and do things I know is wrong,thanks for your support,....I will never support christmas...it's not biblical,it is pagan, and you are right Mike,we must celebrate everyday,because we know what He died for....that is what is important

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                          • #58
                            Hello Theo.......
                            it is easy....by their fathers and mothers it is an instilled thing that has no logic...just a stupid belief with no substance or scientific origin

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                            • #59
                              Altrez

                              Cyril is and was a lier,there is no proof that Christ was born on 25 Dec.....it is closer to april or may.....go study it

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