Cold Fusion

[ApEkV2]

I've heard over at overunity.com that someone was getting 1000 watts out of their cell at 100 to 200 watts input. I got mine to run at 170 watts at 80vdc with no variac.
YouTube - Plasma HHO (3)
The big thing to try is putting the primary of a Microwave oven Transformer in series with the anode of the cell. It gave me double the volume of sound as well as light and heat. Plus because I run at 120vac input to the circuit, I am able to use cheaper materials for the cell like 304 stainless and copper. After that video I created a shunt resistor and am now able to get a crude measurement of amp draw (it was calibrated too). I do think plasma electrolysis (or cfr whatever you want to call it) is a better way to heat than a regular heating element. I am currently working on Solid Works to design an efficient cell.

[ashtweth]

Thx Dave and ApEkV2 for the inputs, will document them for you and help with some testing ASAP

[Guest]

Any cool transmutation from the materials inside the cell? Or is this the part you keep for yourself?!

[dave_cahoon]

Any cool transmutation from the materials inside the cell? Or is this the part you keep for yourself?!

If there is transmutation, I'm not equipped to make claims like that.
If I saw anything cool you would be looking at a photograph of it.

Plus a bump from the deep..

Dave

[jibbguy]

Chemical reactions.

Look i think anyone who knows my work can't call me a "naysayer", but i must point out that results using the home-built LENR system are highly suspect: Because of the possibility of chemical reaction accounting for the effects. This particular accusation will be very difficult to disprove to the scientific community if these experiments are ever publicized.

The chemical reaction thingie was a huge bugaboo with LENR back in 1990 when it was first being replicated, and is what M.I.T. and others used as their main reason for dumping on it.

Not saying there are false-positives due to chemical reaction using this setup, i truly do not know... The point is can it be proved to not be chemical reaction?

Just trying to protect your rep's

[ashtweth]

heya Jib.

How do you suggest we validate this?, precision university equipment?
I can sneak in there

[jibbguy]

M8 my worries are less of the validation, than the methods. For one thing, i think the use of common baking soda would raise acedemian eyebrows. Then there is the lab equipment and electrodes; they must be of high quality to insure no impurities are present.

But to validate it, essentially it is about accurate temp measurement (since the only way to detect the trace elements created would be by spectrograph). A "T" or "K" thermocouple and properly calibrated & certified T-C amplifier / signal conditioner should work (the up-to-date cal certs are important with thermocouples, since they have a non-linear output and the amps often need cal). This would be more accurate than a common thermistor-type probe like you see sold for DMM's.

And of course there would need to be a measurement done with no LENR reaction using the same heating current and vessel as the control. From what i have seen about this, the differential in temp could actually be only a couple dozen degrees with a small set-up without Deuterium-enriched water (...needs to be measured over several hours too).

Some kind of sensitive low-light camera in a darkened room to catch any Abnormal Glow would be cool, and might help prove the reaction was taking place.

EDIT: But M8 don't take my word on it, as i could study this extensively for weeks and still miss something. An open-minded Chemist should be consulted. Describe or show him your apparatus & method and ask for an opinion on what could be construed as causing "chemical reaction".

[ApEkV2]

@ dave_cahoon. The plasma cell should be directly exposed to the water tank.
The actual cell enclosure won't convect enough heat to even come close to beating a heating element.

And magnetic stirring could come in handy

YouTube - Homemade Magnetic stirrer

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