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  • #16
    tesla hairpin circuit at aepc 2009

    Hi all,

    A video of Karl's presentation of this circuit is currently being uploaded to youtube.com on hydroalternation's channel. There are videos of other presentations as well.

    Regards,
    Andy

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    • #17
      maybe

      hot electricity = particles (electrons)
      cold electricity = wave

      if you take a lot of waves shifted in phase and combine you will get wave packets behaving like small particles...

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      • #18
        More info on the HairPin

        My friend Michel has posted some of the info, from my build of the HairPin of Tesla

        Tesla's Hairpin Circuit - Transformacomm


        Hope this helps anyone interested in this.

        Had fun showing this device to those that shewed up at the AECP 2009 conference in Waldorf MD

        Karl

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        • #19
          cap values and voltage ratings

          Hi Karl,

          I just ordered four 20KV 1000pf capacitors from eBay, and thinking about pairing 2 caps in parallel to get 2000pf for each set of caps. So each set of parallel caps would get a voltage rating of 20KV at 2000pf. I also ordered an ignition transformer that outputs 10KV just like your setup.

          Is a rating of 20KV good enough for my setup? If I put the caps in series then the rating would go up to 40KV, but then the capacity would only be 500pf per set of caps. Would 500pf still give me the same scalar effects?

          BTW, excellent demo videos. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. I can't wait to see some scalar effects with my setup!

          -brian
          Last edited by n84dafun; 06-20-2009, 09:38 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by n84dafun View Post
            Hi Karl,

            I just ordered four 20KV 1000pf capacitors from eBay, and thinking about pairing 2 caps in parallel to get 2000pf for each set of caps. So each set of parallel caps would get a voltage rating of 20KV at 2000pf. I also ordered an ignition transformer that outputs 10KV just like your setup.

            Is a rating of 20KV good enough for my setup? If I put the caps in series then the rating would go up to 40KV, but then the capacity would only be 500pf per set of caps. Would 500pf still give me the same scalar effects?

            BTW, excellent demo videos. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. I can't wait to see some scalar effects with my setup!

            -brian

            I have only played with this hairpin. I have only used these caps, but you should be fine with your setup. Just remember to be careful. With any setup you need to test and see if the device is safe to touch. You are overrating your caps like I did so that is a good start. I have used Aluminum instead of copper and had great results. Aluminum is much cheaper so I can recommend that. I just left mine in Copper as it is a tribute to tesla...and wanted to keep it as close as tesla had. Build safe,

            Karl

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            • #21
              @Karl

              Thanks for the info.

              I'll definitely use aluminum first. Copper is way too expensive right now.

              Brian

              Originally posted by Karl_Palsness View Post
              I have only played with this hairpin. I have only used these caps, but you should be fine with your setup. Just remember to be careful. With any setup you need to test and see if the device is safe to touch. You are overrating your caps like I did so that is a good start. I have used Aluminum instead of copper and had great results. Aluminum is much cheaper so I can recommend that. I just left mine in Copper as it is a tribute to tesla...and wanted to keep it as close as tesla had. Build safe,

              Karl

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              • #22
                Karl,

                I think we need now a nice experiment which will prove that radiant energy observed here is not HF normal current or how those two are related to each other.

                What was the frequency used in your experiment on primary oscillator side ? How we can measure frequency of output stage where bulbs are connected ? I think it could be possible with a special bulb which generate different spectrum of light depending on current frequency but I don't know where to find it or how to make it.

                Did you ever tried to place broken incandescent bulb on output stage of your hairpin circuit ?

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                • #23
                  Broken incandescent bulbs glow like a florescent bulb. But what I think shows that this is not normal energy is first, the bulbs light in normal tap water, if it was skin effect the water should short out the energy from making it to the bulb. Second there is no shock to the person touching the water or the wires at anytime. Third, when you short out the bulb with a jumper lead (test lead) the bulb stays lit and the lead stays cold. Forth when you hook a 12V bulb in series with a florescent bulb they both light.

                  I do not know what frequency the circuit is running as I have found no equipment that works in the presence of the hairpin.

                  Karl

                  Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                  Karl,

                  I think we need now a nice experiment which will prove that radiant energy observed here is not HF normal current or how those two are related to each other.

                  What was the frequency used in your experiment on primary oscillator side ? How we can measure frequency of output stage where bulbs are connected ? I think it could be possible with a special bulb which generate different spectrum of light depending on current frequency but I don't know where to find it or how to make it.

                  Did you ever tried to place broken incandescent bulb on output stage of your hairpin circuit ?
                  Last edited by Karl_Palsness; 06-21-2009, 03:50 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karl_Palsness View Post
                    Broken incandescent bulbs glow like a florescent bulb. But what I think shows that this is not normal energy is first, the bulbs light in normal tap water, if it was skin effect the water should short out the energy from making it to the bulb. Second there is no shock to the person touching the water or the wires at anytime. Third, when you short out the bulb with a jumper lead (test lead) the bulb stays lit and the lead stays cold. Forth when you hook a 12V bulb in series with a florescent bulb they both light.

                    I do not know what frequency the circuit is running as I have found no equipment that works in the presence of the hairpin.

                    Karl
                    Hi Karl,

                    I appreciate your efforts and build, excellent work . I'm curious about the incandescent lamps your using with broken filaments, most common bulbs today use low pressure gas inside them like argon, neon or nitrogen and the other group of xenon, krypton and halogen. Could it be possible that just being the combination of two internal light bulb terminals with the high voltage and frequency is igniting the "inert" gas inside the bulb, no radiant energy involved ?

                    I think maybe the "spark gap" unit may be a RF (radio frequency) metering problem ..... could be wrong .....

                    I really like your DANGER warnings it's "very" important for this puppy

                    Best Regards,
                    Glen
                    Open Source Experimentalist
                    Open Source Research and Development

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                    • #25
                      Hi Karl,

                      I recently saw a video with your presentation at AEPC 2009 and in it you had a black book that was published by the Tesla Musuem in Belgrade. What was the title of that book, or the contents in it?

                      I'm asking because it appeared as if that book was something that has not been seen before, although the Tesla Museum had only published three books altogether.

                      Also, from your experiments have you found the minimum voltage necessary to achieve these effects? I know you used 10kV Franceformer in the presentation and also mentioned 5kV, though it was not clear whether it did perform or not.

                      Oh, and as a side note, someone in the audience said that Belgrade was in Romania, which I find funny because Tesla was Serbian, born in Croatia, and immigrated to USA. Guess they were not paying attention...

                      Thanks.
                      Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?

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                      • #26
                        Realizations

                        It's 3:40am here for me. And I can't sleep.

                        I'm thinking, 'does everybody know that the principle behind the hairpin circuit that produces scalar waves - is the primary of tesla's magnifying transmitter; that the secondary is of the same mass..'

                        I've been going over all of tesla's lectures AGAIN and it's the only thing that makes sense..

                        So I'm going to replicate the hairpin circuit. and play with actual scalar / longitudinal compression waves / radiant energy

                        As opposed to the hertzian electricity at high frequency and high voltage RF that most of us here are still mistakenly? playing with.

                        Scrapping all previous projects. AGAIN.

                        Love and light
                        Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                        • #27
                          Inq,

                          Good thinking, though i have a funny feeling were both going to end up in the same place where we want to be ;-)

                          keep me posted on the hairpin !!!!!!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                            I'm thinking, 'does everybody know that the principle behind the hairpin circuit that produces scalar waves - is the primary of tesla's magnifying transmitter; that the secondary is of the same mass..'
                            True, but I do not see a secondary in this hairpin configuration, just the primary?

                            For one, Karl has replaced the step-up process in the original circuit, with the HV transformer and feeds that directly into the HV condensers.

                            This bears a question though was Tesla using G, p and s in Fig.183 to achieve some really high potentials or was there another reason for it. As far as I recall he made some pretty cool G(enerators) with 100s of poles which could produce millisecond alternations of high potentials.

                            So why then step it up again through p/s of another coil?

                            Makes me also wonder what was stopping Tesla from making a 110v -> 10kV transformer at the first place and not go through the hassle of using the generator and p/s coil??
                            Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?

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                            • #29
                              Aluminum Hairpin Circuit

                              Hello,

                              Here are five pictures of my Tesla "hairpin device". The rods are 1/2" diameter aluminum, 3 feet tall and had a 13 inch rod across the top.

                              The transformer is an ignition transformer, 10KV @ 23MA. I'm using high voltage wires that can handle 20KV. I think they are 16 gauge.

                              The capacitors are rated at 16KV and 150pF, I think. They were from Russia, I believe. The F(farads) looks like a zero with a slash going down through it (150n phi symbol), and the volts are labeled B. It is considerably lower than Karl's capacitors of 2000pF each. I'm still waiting for my 20KV, 1000pF x 4. I'll parallel a pair to get the required 2000pF each.

                              When I run it, I get a combo hot flame with capacitative discharge because it will burn paper and it makes loud crackling noise. This is unlike Karl's where his just leaves little holes in his paper to make it feel/look like tissue after it has placed between the spark gap. When I remove the load (the aluminum bar running across the top), the noise changes to a softer but hotter crackle between the carbon gouging rods. I don't want to touch the two vertical rods because I suspect there is a mixture of normal high voltage and radiant voltage, as evidence by the sparks/arc burning the paper.

                              See at 2:40 this video:
                              YouTube - Karl Palsness AEPC 2009 Tesla Hairpin Circuit Part 6

                              Maybe when I get my larger capacitors, I will get better results. So I'm guessing that in order to get the desired or correct radiant results, the arc/sparks should not burn the paper, but only put holes in it. @Karl, is this correct?

                              -brian





                              Last edited by n84dafun; 06-27-2009, 01:23 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Looks sweet

                                If you could post a video of it it'd be really appreciated, the sound and form of the spark etc, so others like myself looking to replicate know what to avoid as well as to try for.

                                Love and light
                                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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