Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Aromaz]

Next Step

We have HV environment,
- we have resonance,
- we have BEMF,
- we have electromagnetic fields
- and we can make nice sparks;
And we have Inquorate's detector in various formats.

All of this with electricity from DC battery.


Now; let us add the final ingredient
- MAGNETIC FORCE.
- As in rare earth magnets.

All will be happy if we can make the magnet’s flux oscillate.
Sweet Sparky Floyd style – or otherwise with same result.

THEN we will have 'free energy’ and levitation on crown of the king.

[sucahyo]

I know I'm hung up on this at the moment, but it is SO different when I manually spark the circuit as opposed to when the transistor is switching off and on...

Maybe because the transistor still has leak, not completely off when turned off. Maybe this is the reason for difference BEMF generation for different brand.

I will patiently wait the explanation about your theory .


@Aromaz,
Found the drawing of molecule, here:
SVP Universal Cosmology - Part 7 of 17 - Origin and Formation of Matter

The article in Dale Pond website is worth reading. Here is the collection of what new and old scientist say about ether:
SVP - John Worrell Keely's Sacred Science

He also sell interesting old book.



About dynamic resonance, if you draw graph that show the relationship between circuit input current, frequency and BEMF current/CFL brightness how will it look like? Using the same component, and the only thing difference is frequency.

I attach my circuit BEMF generation. Max BEMF is at low frequency around 50Hz.

when manually sparked, does the neon emit purple mushroom cloud enclosing whole neon globe?

Maybe because the voltage is so high the spark jumping around in both direction?

Right now i got a funny thing at my second Bedini.
I have 2 Coils behind there, and when i start it, it only turns slow.
I need to adjust first at the Pot to a 'idling Rpm', then i can turn it higher.
Its like, Frequency needs first to settle at a certain Point, and then you can push it to a higher Frequency.

My Joule thief also won't light up the CFL sometime when pot frequency set to max. When I reduce the freq until the CFL light up, the freq would increase it self and the CFL would still light up even when I revert the pot to max.




Still learning about the neon and downloading video. In my circuit, if I add diode in the CFL part, the CFL would only light up if the diode is put at spesific direction. When I use neon bulb, the neon bulb would light up one side if I put a diode, no matter what the direction is.

[Aromaz]

@sucahyo; Why so serious about the BEMF?

Do you have a scope available?

[sucahyo]

@sucahyo; Why so serious about the BEMF?

Electricity without heat.

I never experience temperature increase when charging a battery. I tried Gel Lead Acid, Zinc Carbon, and Nickel Cadmium. The one that get hot is the transistor if the load has resistance too low. The battery would get hot immediately if we charge it directly.

Currently the output is 160mA max at around 9V when loaded with single HHO cell of mine. This is similar Amperage as slow version of battery charger.

My dream is to have BEMF at 2 Ampere, to use it for electrolysis. The biggest problem for electrolysis is heat. Eliminating heat is the reason for many unique design. If BEMF can reach high Ampere, without heat many people would be willing to use it even if the efficiency is only 50% or so.

It should be applicable for other appliance that has heat problem. Although the high spike resulting from BEMF should be considered too.

If we can get more BEMF the CFL will light brighter with less current. My transformer secondary output is around 180V, as it is a normal transformer. Yet it can light up CFL at resonance as bright as any circuit that using car coil, which has output voltage beyond 1000Volt.

I also feel experimenting with low voltage is the first step before we do it at higher voltage. Switching 220V electricity on and off with transistor that would tolerate the generated BEMF. The resulting BEMF of grid electricity should be high enough to power anything.
Maybe we can get something EV gray didn't:

We suspect that Boot did provide these complete transistorized CD systems and that Mr. Gray was eagerly looking forward to the reduced size, increased life time, and improved efficiencies that the new solid state devices promised. Especially after having to constantly fight with vibrators that kept burning out during his trial runs. But, Radiant Energy (RE) generation has its own special challenges to deal with. One major engineering issue is what to do with the Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) like effect that happens when a RE circuit reaches certain power level. If all that excess energy is not properly shunted to the system common (hopefully after doing some serious work) it escapes from the circuit conductors to charge every metal object within 20' or so of the generator. A multitude of blue-white sparks will erupt from every metallic object in a room, due to the induced high voltage. This is certainly an interesting light-show, with the lights turned off, but devastating to any near by transistor or IC that has any amount of wire connected to it. Transistors and IC s that are stored in metalised protective bags or boxes seem to survive.

I think you already experienced the quote I bold.


What I want to achieve now is isolating back EMF part so it would not draw power source current too. Circuit that isolating the coil between two door transistor still failed me.

Do you have a scope available?

No. I use one Avometer for monitoring input current, BEMF current and BEMF voltage.

[Aromaz]

Eureka !

I have got it, I think (Those dangerous words again!)

Writing a document to explain some of my theories, as usual I went a little astray and now I find myself writing in a very strange way. Sounds familiar Inquorate? Reading what I wrote to present; made me realize in fact how simple it all is!

I just wanted to share this excitement.
The What to do is clear,
the results are clear and amazingly - proven.
But how to control is not yet clear.

It all comes down to the smallest complete Universe - the Atom.

I am literally standing with two balls of clay in my hands - Neutron and Photon.
Just got to figure out how to make them play.

Let me get on with writing without thinking.

[Aromaz]

1. Electricity without heat.

2. What I want to achieve now is isolating back EMF part so it would not draw power source current too. Circuit that isolating the coil between two door transistor still failed me.

1. Forget that, you will not be able to do that with normal electricity nor BEMF. We do have some to that effect and it is Negative Energy. What exactly that is I will explain in my document soon. It is part of what is termed Cold Fusion and considered doubtfull by most educated people.

2. That would not be possible. I suspected you had the wrong idea of BACK - EMF. That term is in fact not correct, it is rather COUNTER EMF. You can not split the CEMF off from the forward energy - because the exact nature is:

At the start of the electron movement they are opposed by the the electron/proton set of atoms in front of them and needs to overcome that repulsing force first - that preasure is what is causing the CEMF, more excitement from electrons with no home.

There is only a small part which is in reality Back EMF and that occurs at the moment of switch opening when the free electrons - in the process of seeking the new home, can not find it. They suddenly lost their driving force from behind. That manifest itself as a spike and the electrons actually breaks completely free from the conductor into the air.

That explains our HV environment.

To capture the CEMF will not work - because you are then removing the driving force for the rest of electrons, thus terminating the current flow.

To capture the small Back flow spike could possibly work, but only if you capture electrons outside of the conductor. Maybe you can, if you are using a shielded wire like TV wire?

[Inquorate]

Switching

Relays tend to arc, as contacts never really far enough away to turn off.

Transistors require actual electron movement to switch, so can only turn off or on after the electrons have started moving, which is therefore AFTER the electron-bunching effect and concurrent spike of voltage have passed.

So, we are getting electron movement with our voltage.

@ Sucahyo - Thankyou for being the catalyst re my making aether videos. Having to think about presenting the information has led me to make many refinements to my thoughts as I'm finding I need to 'iron out the wrinkles' of the model. And in doing so I've come to several new realisations about the complexity underlying aetheric structure. This in turn has sharpened my understanding of aetheric processes...

In short, it's all coming together like a tetris game in my mind. Except the blocks have to follow a pattern to fit, and once you've worked that out, it makes knowing where the other blocks go a simple process. Or at worst, the wrong block placed will stand out...

Anyway, just wanted to share. I feel like I'm downloading, just receiving the bits and piecing together. Like web page images that get more pixels over time.

That, or I'm going loopy. Time will tell

[Inquorate]

@ Aromaz

I'm visualizing the aether movement re conductors, electrons, magnetic field, voltage polarity, virtual particle flux, etc

And you're close. Good description of what is happening. I am starting to see WHY it happens.

And you're right about not being able to capture CEMF. It is resistance. (that is not entirely correct, closer to say it is a reactive process) And to work towards catching it will involve using degenerating processes, however dynamic. it is the natural balance to the generative aetheric processes. But still good to learn about, so we can better balance future systems.

BEMF is also a point of resistance, in that it is the stopping of a change, but closer to pure aether 'flow' in that the dynamic structure of aether attempts to sustain resistance.

So it is at least tapping the generative aspect of aether interaction.

there is a way of accessing aether energy, and it is by triggering an aetheric state, and withdrawing any 'effort' (expenditure of energy ie loss of order in a structure ie draining the battery) immediately thereafter.

The aether will then be free to do it's thing without 'resistance' - for the briefest moment. Then we have to set up the system to 'allow' it to happen again. Repeat. Repeat...

Until we manage to let that happen, we will get more efficient at wasting energy - destroying the 'dipole'.

So, we are making progress. When we realise why what is happening is happening, we could potentially make giant steps forward.

The leaps of understanding tesla made, and the ease with which he made inventions like force fields and anti grav fields is because he knew WHY. And in 1900 had a deeper understanding of quantum and subquantum processes than anyone alive today. Quantum mechanics is a wonderful description of what appears to be happening. Mathematically perfect descriptions of the exact probability of any quantum process. But WHY?

Why do 'electrons emit virtual photons' that 'interact with each other to push one another away'?

Why do 'protons emit strong and weak nuclear force particles'?

Why does an orbiting electron absorb a photon and thus achieve a higher energy state, therefore jumping up a level momentarily before emitting another photon of a specific wavelength (and thus colour, etc) and dropping back into it's stable orbit?

// and are any of these 'descriptions' of quantum mechanical processes really describing what is happening, let alone WHY? Or is it just a convenient construct that can be used to predict (with complete certainty) the probability of any result occurring?

In short, nobody understands enough. YET.

Enough rambling from me.

[Aromaz]

Hand in hand we walk through the darkness of the forests.

What IF: Say some later day quantum scientists are correct when they say:
Electrons are NOT particles, but in fact they are waves!
Then it might just turn out that: Electrons = Aether; or Aether = Electrons.

YouTube - Quantum Mechanics for Dummies - Electrons Are Weird

[Joit]

@sucahyo
I found a Program for scope over the Soundcard.
Not sure if its usefull, because the limmit of Current at the Input is 0,7V.
Higher Voltage can damage the PC.
Oscilloscope for the Soundcard
So far i ve seen its free for private use.

So, when the Electrons are only Waves then Protons must be a Wave too?
Because usual its, that they got both a load, Positive and negativ.
Or Electrons can be the Force, what moves Protons.
Or maybe both are the Load, only in a resting State,
and when you drag one of them to far away from eachother, they get theyr Force.
The Rest is kinetic Energy, like the Bowls on lines, where you push the left one, and the right one moves.

Here is a Link to Lamares Post about Grey tube, and some Nasa PDf.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gray-tube.html
One Point was about, that Electrons beeing created.
I got something deep in the dark of my mind, that someone once mentioned,
when you generate current, ie at a generator, a Part of the Electrons are taken from the crossing Flux,
and some of them been created.
But i dont wanna bet on this now.
As i read before a while, at the 'generating' current, it works the opposite Way, as at the Consumer.
So, they probatly get her load at generating or there is the Start of the Forces,
the one, what are to much, get destroyed after go through the Load, and the rest from the Force runs back to the generating Point.
And maybe, this little little Dust, what starts at beginning has 2 kind of Nature or more,
what makes it possible, to keep different Load on it. Together they build a N and S Pole, wich is actually only the Result of the Forces.
And they got a absolute Zero Point, where they circle around eachother.
When they collide, they do make a Buum.
And btw, allways fun, when you think the Way back, from minus to plus, because thats the physical Direction from current.

[Aromaz]

@Joit; @sucahyo
I found a Program for scope over the Soundcard.
Not sure if its usefull, because the limmit of Current at the Input is 0,7V.
Higher Voltage can damage the PC.
Oscilloscope for the Soundcard
So far i ve seen its free for private use.
Can work and can use mic rather than direct connection. Can also use radio (Lidmotor style) to pick up wave noise and mic to get it into computer

So, when the Electrons are only Waves then Protons must be a Wave too?

It is one thing which all jurie is still out. Personally I will settle for 'Particle that behave like a wave' - for now.

One Point was about, that Electrons beeing created.
I got something deep in the dark of my mind, that someone once mentioned,
when you generate current, ie at a generator, a Part of the Electrons are taken from the crossing Flux, and some of them been created.

It all is coming nicely together in the doc I am writing. In fact there are certian conditions for neutrons to be changed to electrons or protons and photons to be changed to electrons - to keep the balance in an atom.

Photons to Electrons = Possibly the Radiant energy.

That is one reason I posted the first posting on top of this page: To look more into the effects of magnetic force on electrons and movements.

[Mutten]

@Joit; @sucahyo
I found a Program for scope over the Soundcard.
Not sure if its usefull, because the limmit of Current at the Input is 0,7V.
Higher Voltage can damage the PC.
Oscilloscope for the Soundcard
So far i ve seen its free for private use.
Can work and can use mic rather than direct connection. Can also use radio (Lidmotor style) to pick up wave noise and mic to get it into computer

So, when the Electrons are only Waves then Protons must be a Wave too?

It is one thing which all jurie is still out. Personally I will settle for 'Particle that behave like a wave' - for now.

One Point was about, that Electrons beeing created.
I got something deep in the dark of my mind, that someone once mentioned,
when you generate current, ie at a generator, a Part of the Electrons are taken from the crossing Flux, and some of them been created.

It all is coming nicely together in the doc I am writing. In fact there are certian conditions for neutrons to be changed to electrons or protons and photons to be changed to electrons - to keep the balance in an atom.

Photons to Electrons = Possibly the Radiant energy.

That is one reason I posted the first posting on top of this page: To look more into the effects of magnetic force on electrons and movements.

I watched these about a year ago, and its physics without the equations.

YouTube - Physics 10 - Lecture 01: Atoms and Heat

[Inquorate]

wave concept a stopgap

'wave' is just a gap filler concept for 'i don't know'. Quantum physics regards the wave property of say an electron, as a probability wave. Ie if 100 times they shoot an electron into a vacuum and look for the electron in one spot where the mathematics predicts it will be at 10 percent of the time, it will be there precisely 10 times. But they don't know which times. They succeeded in splitting the probability wave of an electron in half and separating the two halves. Ie they created a half electron. But quantum physics has as it's most important postulate that there is no such thing as half a unit of energy. Anything less than one is nothing. According to quantum mechanics. So considering quanta as sometimes a particle and sometimes a wave, depending on wether you happen to be interacting with it.... Used to make sense to me but lately I've been thinking how absurd it is. Even relativity theory is absurd, and tesla said as much. the theory I'm working on will blow some socks off! Ha ha!

[broli]

Theory is not good for your head. It's a sorry excuse to try to out smart nature, but we all know who out smarts who in the end. Just use what you discover to better mankind and keep looking for new things and don't ever dare to be ignorant to think you have a single grasp of the workings of the universe. Our current knowledge is probably worth a single drop in the vast ocean of universal knowledge.

[Aromaz]

Theory is not good for your head. It's a sorry excuse to try to out smart nature, but we all know who out smarts who in the end. Just use what you discover to better mankind and keep looking for new things and don't ever dare to be ignorant to think you have a single grasp of the workings of the universe. Our current knowledge is probably worth a single drop in the vast ocean of universal knowledge.

To a certain extend I agree with you:

Theory without practical = Wind
BUT
Practical without understanding = Death
Understanding = Theory.

By that I mean: If you can do something practical but you do not
know why or how such experiment works; you are dead - in the sense
that your practical experiment will not be able to develop further. You
will run in circles, be stuck in a groove – fail to find the door to greater
achievements. And this is what I observed in so many of this and other
forums like OU. Everybody is just turning around the same axle.