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  • What do we want?

    My yocto-gram of understanding what we are trying to do. Again, I am a student thus I might be wrong too. Do not follow me!

    Pre-Note: In cases where I am referring to aether, it is to you to read and interpreted the way you do. For me I am using that term as combination of all the smaller items like ions, neutrino’s, quarks, electrons, etc.

    Most of the efforts so many people are doing to try and get ‘free energy’ are in vain. That I can qualify by the facts; 10,000’s of people tried and are trying, very few had success over the past 80 years. In these past months I have been looking, copying and analyzing many of these products and ideas. Of all the items/designs currently in some sort of operations there are only two that does have success:

    A) John Bedini – in his publicly available devices there is a definite gain. But again I think most very few people actually understand what is happening there – including me. However there are a few small things that I do understand now: The typical much used and referred to SG and SSG does gain energy to the batteries – but what? This energy is good for lights – not motors.(Note: Edited until I can find the correct refference material) That should already clear the issue for all. All that does happen in that circuit, coils and magnets are the ability and promotion of electrons to capture and release more photons. Saturate the electrons with photons, push them into the charge battery on the NEG side, create a little void where they came from in the coil and capture more electrons from the atmosphere (Aether ?) into that conductors to fill the voilds.
    >>>>> Radiant energy of JB is 'photon saturated' electrons <<<<<

    B) Joseph Flynn’s PPT – it is a definite improvement on application and manipulation of magnetic force worth mentioning and in some cases does actually achieve COP +1. Where JB is radiant (gain of light) this PPT is motion force – manipulate magnetic fields.

    I do accept and believe that there were other devices like Sweet, Adams, Gray, Baumann, etc – but whatever and however – we do not know today how exactly they did work - else we would have them in our shops. Thus it only serves one purpose; Motivation. If it was possible once, then it should be possible again.

    As for all the rest, devices and circuits – they stand on the same side as conventional energy; uneconomic; not making gains.

    So what I propose is for us to first understand what we are really trying to do, what are we ‘planning’ to work with.
    Before that we have to know WHAT DO YOU WANT?

    Light: That is the relatively easy one. You have to look at Photons. The ability of electrons to capture and release photons is giving light in both situations. One does release heat, the other absorbs heat. But photons are not necessarily to be associated with electrons, they are also completely free floating; thus we can look at options to use the free floating photons directly; such as exciting them in the air/aether.

    Electricity: This one is more difficult to do, though the concepts are still easy. There is only one items to be used – Electrons. Fortunately this is the most freely available wave-particle. The quest will only be to find out how to get more electrons into our circuits. If you can achieve the capture of electrons, and better still – to enrich them with photons; then you will have absolute OU in electricity.

    Motion and Levitation; Since we do not yet know exactly how gravity works, we definitely will never be able to create anti-gravity. At best we will be able to achieve levitation and motion, most likely by methods of magnetic fields, electrons and ions. Not much on this one for now.
    Last edited by Aromaz; 01-30-2009, 12:54 AM.
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
      @Mutten; Physics 10 = 26 hours of video. I have done the whole once and some videos 3x reviewed. Regardless, it is a very good easy to follow series and teacher. I also followed another series from British, Australian and Indian lectures. Combined all in some notes.

      Give more attention to Prof Mullers' descriptions of Radioactivity (#5 - 7) and light lectures (#13-15).

      Beta decay is every day common, on atomic scale, not enough for nuclear chain reaction. Also neutrons are abundent, free floating as he explains with greiger tube - from cosmic rays.

      YES, A Photon is a particle wave - the same as an electron..

      I believe I misunderstood you were getting at, I had to go back and reread it a few times. My apologies.

      Strip away electrons by photon emission, possibly creates unstable condition to emit a neutron from an isotope?

      Neutron gets kicked out, decays to a proton, electron and antineutrino. Protons and electrons get together and make carbon ?

      Also about that photo, reminds me of water eroding rock.

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      • Originally posted by Mutten View Post
        I believe I misunderstood you were getting at, I had to go back and reread it a few times. My apologies.

        Strip away electrons by photon emission, possibly creates unstable condition to emit a neutron from an isotope?

        Neutron gets kicked out, decays to a proton, electron and antineutrino. Protons and electrons get together and make carbon ?

        Also about that photo, reminds me of water eroding rock.
        Thanks, better stated than I could!
        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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        • Just some quick comment, more later, still reading........

          What is the component light? is it a particle? if it isn't why it can slow down or reflected? why it can be absorbed and converted to electricity or vise versa?

          Same with heat, is heat a particle too? If it isn't then what is it? ether?


          About getting the energy, it seems most method do it by ping ponging electron. Shake it hard, and make it amplify with resonant. We gather the excess energy in the form of spike or noise generated from it. A way to amplify the noise and use it.

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          • Notable links

            Interesting links, esp the last one :-)

            The First Aether Conference

            Origin of Inertia - sci.physics | Google Groups

            Subquantum Physics and Aether Theories

            This one from above page of links looks promising

            a n p h e o n
            Last edited by Inquorate; 01-28-2009, 02:49 AM. Reason: Aether theory using fluid dynamics instead of my abstract 'spin' concept
            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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            • Looks like I was somewhat wrong

              Aether is a superfluid, which has the properties of a solid and a gas as well.

              I rrrrreeeeally recommend everyone read this

              a n p h e o n

              I'm gobsmacked.
              Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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              • I have read many theories and if there is one constant in most all of these theories it is that they seem very complex. In nature when we look to the stars things would seem to get less and less complicated, as well when we look inward to the fabric of matter and space things would seem to get very much less and less complicated relative to the world we know. So why are all of your theories so complicated when nature would seem to be very simple? I think any accurate theory cannot be based on science it must be based on nature because what we call science is nothing but a description of nature, how the natural world around us behaves. If there is one thing I can tell you about this road to understanding that you travel on it is that true understanding will always lead to clarity of thought and simplicity not complexity, if this is not the case then you are on the wrong road, please take the nearest exit.
                Regards
                AC
                Last edited by Allcanadian; 01-28-2009, 08:59 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                  I have read many theories and if there is one constant in most all of these theories it is that they seem very complex. In nature when we look to the stars things would seem to get less and less complicated, as well when we look inward to the fabric of matter and space things would seem to get very much less and less complicated relative to the world we know. So why are all of your theories so complicated when nature would seem to be very simple? I think any accurate theory cannot be based on science it must be based on nature because what we call science is nothing but a description of nature, how the natural world around us behaves. If there is one thing I can tell you about this road to understanding that you travel on it is that true understanding will always lead to clarity of thought and simplicity not complexity, if this is not the case then you are on the wrong road, please take the nearest exit.
                  Regards
                  AC
                  100% agreed with. If you look at one of my earlier postings here you will see that is exactly the route I went. Research from electricity to the universe and back down to micro particle-waves; but all the small things are more understandable when you use the image filter of the universe.

                  In fact all things are simple and easy to understand - if you have the right teacher that can point the right direction.

                  I will answer / reply on other questions above later tonight.
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • @Inquorate, maybe the purple flashes happen because the voltage is exceeding specified maximum voltage?

                    Interesting link, it says the same thing as many of scientist in Dale Pond site.


                    @all, I still trying to absorb the info about electron and ether. Maybe rereading it from first page. Would give comment about it tomorrow. I also read text from link bellow which has many description on how to utilize ether:
                    T E X T F I L E S

                    Some conclusion about how to tap ether energy using coil is by powering it without making it magnetized. Either with very quick pulse of high voltage so current won't have time to build the EM, or using coil that have reduced EM. And we have to achieved it trough resonance.

                    If we disconnect power off a normal coil, we won't get high COP if the current divided while the voltage multiplied.

                    BTW, I damage another MJ2955 today, all dies close at max BEMF frequency. I began to suspect either utilizing negative BEMF is not reliable or negative BEMF is the way we have to achieve.

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                    • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                      Aether is a superfluid, which has the properties of a solid and a gas as well.
                      I rrrrreeeeally recommend everyone read this
                      a n p h e o n
                      I'm gobsmacked.
                      Interesting, indeed. Still reading, but I like the statement about scientific development:

                      "The outcome of each step is pre-conditioned by the result of the previous step, and each step in turn conditions the outcome of the next step........it can be a temporary movement in a direction away from that goal. If it is the latter, then it becomes a compounded error, an erroneous reaction to an erroneous assumption."

                      I like to read theories from people who did actually do something practically. Only those who are fishing can really talk of fishing. Like some of the info and views I could get from publishing’s of Leedskalnin (Coral Castle fame). Many of his explanations does not make scientific sense at all; BUT he did do strange things, things that science can not explain.
                      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                      • [QUOTE=sucahyo;43223..... Either with very quick pulse of high voltage so current won't have time to build the EM, or using coil that have reduced EM. And we have to achieved it trough resonance.[/QUOTE]

                        Not really correct. Before I was also thinking of the effects of pulsing a voltage only with no current, BUT ElectroMagnetic force is as fast as light (or very nearly so), so whatever energy pulse you send through a conductor will result in EM too.

                        Resonance is bouncing the swing back when it reaches maximum amplitude, thus boosting it.
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • @ Sucahyo - voltage exceeded? Even that would be awesome, cause 1600 volts from my coil don't make a neon purple.. So Bifiliar wound opposite current direction must really pack a punch with mechanical switching :-)

                          I think 'something' is drastically altering the absorption of energy thus electrons reaching higher than normal excited state; hence purple. This same something is strong enough to tear molecular strength of electrodes in neon. Anyone know what they're made of?

                          @ allcanadian - nature is simple. Like the process of cell division that made me in my mother's womb, like the arrangement of energy that gives rise to my consciousness, which is all so well understood, like how all linear systems fall into chaos in exactly the same way indicating high order underlying chaos, like, like ah, no hang on, I disagree. If nature was simple mankind would be in bed with her.

                          I do agree that she is not unnecessarily complex though :-)

                          Ps forgive my tone, I'm drunk.
                          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                          • @sucahyo; A quick reply in between my break.

                            What is the component light? is it a particle? if it isn't why it can slow down or reflected? why it can be absorbed and converted to electricity or vise versa?
                            Light is electromagnetic wave. Not particle, but then such a light wave could form what is called 'packets' which could act like it is a particle - or what is also referred to a photons.

                            Same with heat, is heat a particle too? If it isn't then what is it? ether?
                            Heat is pure wave radiation; electromagnetic; hmmm. it is also a radiation of light - Infra red and slower frequencies. Thus heat = light; same thing.


                            About getting the energy, it seems most method do it by ping ponging electron. Shake it hard, and make it amplify with resonant. We gather the excess energy in the form of spike or noise generated from it. A way to amplify the noise and use it.
                            Not correct; you can not amplify energy - unless you put more energy.
                            'shaking' electrons will create magnetic field - yes, but the force used to 'shake' the electron will be more than what you can retrieve.
                            Noise is just another form of waves; and again needs energy to create.

                            I absolutely urge you to copy some series of videos and watch them few times; you will be amazed at how much you can learn - and how much you can understand. Done that and read your own questions again will make you happy!

                            Start by the following 26 hour course - for which students paid in excess of US$ 800 each. You can get it for free; only the cost of downloading - and I assure you it is extremely valuable for our research. I have watch some videos already more than three times - and still learned new things - or better understand.

                            YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


                            Until you can honestly tell me you have watched these 26 hours of excellent education; that will be my answer and reference to your questions.
                            Last edited by Aromaz; 01-28-2009, 02:11 PM.
                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • More about NE-2

                              [QUOTE=Inquorate;43227I think 'something' is drastically altering the absorption of energy thus electrons reaching higher than normal excited state; hence purple. This same something is strong enough to tear molecular strength of electrodes in neon. Anyone know what they're made of?
                              [/QUOTE]

                              NEON:
                              The neon gas is an noble pure element with a surprising 16 isotopes of which only three are stable. Some of the unstable isotopes has a half life of up to 37 seconds and does emit Gamma and UV rays. Throught he purple light you see could not be UV. Else you will not see the purple unless it is rather to the lower frequency which falls within the visible light spectrum!

                              Some companies (amongst which are supply to Radio Shack #272-1100) are using 99.5% neon and 0.5% argon in their gas mixture. Although argon is expected to make the glow purpler, it does this more in the main discharge column, which low pressure glow lamps having closely spaced electrodes lack.

                              I will stand to say that it might be impurities in the specific gas mixture of your NE-2 supply; typical possibility is NeAr+ = a compound with Argon which does burn purple/blue with oxygen. There are now reviving a old technology where there seems to be a demand for the Argon based neon globe, which were obsolute for a few years. Their light is an attractive violet color - and high ultr-violet component. The striking voltage is higher, 90-95 V, and their maintaining voltage about 70 V.

                              How this can be? Same company same product - it is possible that they were making argon neon bulbs and then changed to the orange product. There might still have been some of the previous gas mixture left in the supply - contaminants in this case.

                              The glow discharge is an interesting phenomenon that has long been studied. Electrons are accelerated by an applied voltage until they gain sufficient energy to ionize the neon atoms, knocking off an electron and forming a positive ion.

                              The ions are accelerated towards the cathode by the same field, and on collision with it cause further electrons to be emitted, which sustains the current. The energy also evaporates some of the cathode material, and "sputters" it onto any surrounding surfaces. At some applied voltage, called the sparking potential, the current becomes larger and self-supporting.

                              The voltage drops, and a glow discharge is established. The ionized and excited neon atoms emit radiation copiously (for neon, at 585.2, 587.6 and 640.2 nm, and other weaker lines in the same region, giving the light its characteristic orange color) in the negative glow, which is what you see in the NE-2. The amount of light is proportional to the current through the lamp.

                              The random ionization necessary to start the discharge could be supplied by cosmic rays or natural radioactivity in the materials of the lamp, but an important role is played by photoemission caused by ambient light. When a lamp is in complete darkness, the striking voltage rises, sometimes rather impressively.

                              To counteract this "dark effect," some radioactive material may be included inside the lamp. Not all lamps had this modification. If the applied voltage is only slightly greater than the striking voltage, some 200 to 300 μs is required to strike. If the excess voltage is 60-70V, the discharge may form in 25 μs or less. If the discharge has just been extinguished, it may strike again more quickly because of the remaining ionization.



                              ELECTRODES: Interior electrodes of globe are usually a compound of tungsten - Tungsten Carbite or Cerium tungsten - there are no specific requirements except for high temperature resistance. Sometimes the external legs are the same but more often it is tin coated copper. Some cheaper (Chinese ?_ products are just using normal wolfram, some are wolfram with carbite or cerium coating.

                              Some other interesting thing with electrodes:
                              Sometimes NE-2 neon lamps are used on receiving radio antennas to provide protection from transient voltages induced by lightning. There are several problems with that. One is the high firing potentials of typical NE-2 lamps. Individual lamp firing potentials vary, but they generally fire at about 90 VDC or 65 VAC.

                              That is a lot of voltage to apply to the input of a sensitive RF amplifier designed to amplify signals in the microvolt range. Current-carrying capacity is another problem. Lightning induced voltages are commonly high enough to flash across any current-limiting series resistor, causing lamp current to greatly exceed NE-2 ratings.

                              Even if the current doesn't cause a lamp to explode or show visible signs of damage, internal sputtering will remove rare-earth coating from the electrodes. That will increase both the DC and AC firing potentials and cause the lamp to provide even less protection next time.


                              I am 99.95% sure your phenomenon is the result of the gas compound.

                              Last edited by Aromaz; 01-28-2009, 01:51 PM.
                              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                              • I forgot to add on possible important point. The NE-2 electrodes inside the lamps are often - NOT always - coated with barium to facilitate better electron emission and faster striking.

                                Now THAT was an interesting break form lectures....
                                and overdue for my own understanding of all components I am using.
                                Last edited by Aromaz; 01-28-2009, 02:00 PM.
                                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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