Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Joit]

I think the honeycombcoils are not bad for all, like Hendershot use it at his Generator.
They should have less lenz drag, and better Reactiontime.
But i am only scared about to make them.
Hendershot used about 54 Nails for a Circle, where he did wind the Wire around. Its a lot work, when you mess something up.
But the Fact, that you move the Wires at the Windings away and close should give them even a better selfinduction.

Another Thought from me.
When i think on the Potentials from Metals, and i compare with Magnesium sharpener and the Graphit Mine,
then is Magnesium the Minuspol and Graphit Plus.
But that is just on the Meter, and the pysical Direction is different.
So, over Time, the Magnesium becomes weaker, what means, the Electrons travel from Minus to Plus,
and at the Graphit, it seems like, they go into Nothing, because the Graphit dont start to grow up and get bigger.
Seems like, most of time, you have to think twice, what Current does in both Direction,
and maybe you can come up with other Solutions, when you think different as usual.

[broli]

As for myself personally, if it is my time, then I would rather like it to be something else than the current suffocation awaiting me with bronchial cancer.

Check:

Candida, Yeast and Fungus a Cancer - Baking Soda to Cure « Essential Oils… more than basic Aromatherapy

As Dr. Tullio Simoncini, an Italian Oncologist and author of Cancer is a Fungus, shares in this video his very novel and safe treatment of cancer tumors… using nothing more than sodium bicarbonate (ordinary baking soda). Dr. Simoncini, a brilliant doctor who has been ousted from the medical community due to his revolutionary simple ideas of how to cure diseases that are commonly huge profit makers.

Please watch the video and read the article.

I also HIGHLY recommend you either start making or buying the best colloidal silver solution out there (MesoSilver). CS eliminates bacteria/viruses/infections/fungi... . You are a man that is good in researching so I don't think I need to say more about it than LOOK IT UP. Don't trust the doctors. Take your health into your own hands.

These are all very small expenses compared to what you gain out of it.

PS: Check your pm.

[Aromaz]

I would like to try Ironwires, but they are hard to get for me anyhow.

I do not know about modern day flowershops, but in the older days the typical flower shop were using iron wire coated with some soft green paper in making their flower decorations. It is a dark gray, feel somewhat rusty, breaks quite easy if you bend it maybe 5 times.

[dave_cahoon]

Iron wire

The twist ties on bread bags, iron wire.
The shop theft deterrent wireing products
into there packaging is iron.
Chicken fence is iron wire.
Most fencing for farm use is iron with zink,
coating you can burn away.
use a magnet to verify..

Dave

[patmac]

Aromaz

I'm don't believe in mystic materials, but on thread about the MRU of Juan, there is some very very interesting about Permanent Magnet Motors.

First the key is the shielding material in this case the better material is pyrocarbon or pyrolityc graphite, this material is highly diamagntic, or super diamagnetic is my definitiion, because repel the magnetic field with the same magnetic pole of magnetic field?. it's incredible.

Ok, if a material diamagnetic is magnetically = 0, then pyrocarbon is <0, this means pyrocarbon is superconductor, this mean, pyrocarbon can be NEGATIVE RESISTOR. It's possible rod carbon on Ed Gray tube use this special graphite?.

[Aromaz]

Unless anything has definate confirmation; anything is possible.

But: Pyrocarbon does not generate electricity; is quite widely used in medicine
- i.e. artificial body parts; Very expensive. One of our customers had a knee replacement.

Discovered only in 1960 - France; as result of nuclear reaction.
Too late to qualify for Gray's.

However, the diamagnetic flux is actually very weak but certianly does
call for more attention into its properties.

Question: How does the flux shape around the Pyrocarbon?
There could be a possible way to use this together with magnets to build small magnetic only motor.

.

[Vortex]

Off topic question, Please

In the video the wire jumps straight up (at 180 vertical degrees ) or
straight down (at 0 vertical degrees).

If we change the orientation of the electric wire from horizontal, left to right,
as seen in the video to vertical, up and down, and run the same test,
in what direction does the wire jump?
Why?

See MIT Physics Demo -- Jumping Wire

Just
Randy

[broli]

In the video the wire jumps straight up (at 180 vertical degrees ) or
straight down (at 0 vertical degrees).

If we change the orientation of the electric wire from horizontal, left to right,
as seen in the video to vertical, up and down, and run the same test,
in what direction does the wire jump?
Why?

See MIT Physics Demo -- Jumping Wire

Just
Randy

This is the lorentz force at work. I would suggest you visiting this thread which contains a ton of information...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...generator.html

But to answer you question you need to use the right hand rule which is illustrated here...



Thumb= current
fingers= B-field
palm= resulting force

This method always works. But visit the thread it talks about longitudinal forces as well.

[Vortex]

This is the lorentz force at work. I would suggest you visiting this thread which contains a ton of information...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...generator.html

But to answer you question you need to use the right hand rule which is illustrated here...



Thumb= current
fingers= B-field
palm= resulting force

This method always works. But visit the thread it talks about longitudinal forces as well.

It's Very Good that you bring up the Rule.
I know of that RULE. which is Why I'm asking my question.
The question is Why? not what is the rule.

That rule has no meaning for vertical wires because it seems
the rule is only for horizontal wires and the b field can only go up or down.

Still
Randy

[broli]

It's Very Good that you bring up the Rule.
I know of that RULE. which is Why I'm asking my question.
The question is Why? not what is the rule.

That rule has no meaning for vertical wires because it seems
the rule is only for horizontal wires and the b field can only go up or down.

Still
Randy

You should use some drawings because we're getting nowhere like this. Your horizontal and vertical is very confusing in these manners.

[Aromaz]

Yes, the right hand rule is in operation.
He switch twice 'forward' and last time 'backwards'

Off course it is valid if the magnets is N and S facing

but then we do not know what the facing magnets polarity are.

[Vortex]

Yes, the right hand rule is in operation.
He switch twice 'forward' and last time 'backwards'

Off course it is valid if the magnets is N and S facing

but then we do not know what the facing magnets polarity are.

two for entertaining my seemingly silly question.

Ok, I got the Right Hand rule down looking at Magnetism and the Lorentz Force - Succeed in Physical Science: School for Champions
and Yes , ok it works with the wire running any which way...
I mistakingly asked about the b field and it's the Force.

Looking at Lorentz force I get a fuzzy mixed answer where
it overlaps and mixes up with other laws, etc.
"The Lorentz force law describes the effect of E and B upon a point charge, but such electromagnetic forces are not the entire picture. Charged particles are possibly coupled to other forces, notably gravity and nuclear forces. Thus, Maxwell's equations do not stand separate from other physical laws, but are coupled to them via the charge and current densities."

I was looking for a physical (wire force upon PM force) understanding of why the force moves in the direction of the second finger. Like the force of The Magnus Effect
I jumped the gun with saying the rule did not apply
The rule applies, the wire side is explained, it's the PM side that's in question.
The Why, the cause on the PM side I ask silly questions, I know.

Sorry I jumped the gun.
Randy

[broli]

Here's a shocker that the Lorentz force doesn't allow. There's another force which acts ALONG the current direction. No not the coulomb force. But a magnetic force. This is the reason why a rail gun recoils. Neither the Lorentz force nor the biot-savart method account for this. This used to be a hot topic in the past but for some reason died off. This thesis in the other thread can be very helpful...

http://www.energeticforum.com/48406-post13.html

Azomaz you should definitely check it out too. Btw how's your work coming along?

[darkwizard]

i Have a certain degree of rejection or negation to Lorentz force, i prefer Ampere Law

[boguslaw]

Look how it can explain spiral pancake coils usage. Interesting... When a spiral pancake coil is placed in magnetic field vector B crossing coil plane perpendicular to it, the Lorentz force point to centre of the coil.
Assuming free conduction electrons on pancake coil surface (or maybe inside wire but not necessary) , they could be speeded up flowing to centre of coil ?