Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Joit]

@ Broli Nice Link about teslas work, a lot to read through.
And a lot of things, what i did not see before. really intresting.

@Sucahyo Yup thanks, about the Page.
And the 'funny' thing is, you can see this Forms anywhere at the Nature.
It is like, it builds like the Energy is flowing.
Then i understand anyhow, when the Religion says, God is anywhere.
Even when i not really agree, that there is a God, what is watching from 'above'.
Sounds more like a good Reason for some, to try to same, and try to 'watch us from above'.
Now, just need to find the Point, where OU appears.

About the Transistor, what i ve seen, is, the Transistor only goes hot, when the Frequence at the Base is higher, and the switchrate is higher.
That cause the heat. But when you are in the specs from the Datasheet from it, and dont have to much Current at the Base for Trigger, and same for C and E,
it should not doenst matter, where it is connected, inside the Coil or outside.
But when it goes hot, you can use a Sheet for cooling it down.
Usual you can do a lot with Electronic parts, so far you keep them Cool.
Even work with them over her limit.
Heat is her Enemy, what mostly let them burn. And too much Current usual cause the heat.

[Bodkins]

For those with inquisitive minds and an itching hand, here are some proven and very interesting experiments to do by Dr. Antonio de Queiroz in Brazil.

Mostly based on old technology but some are real interesting and applicable to electrostatic energy.

Electrostatic Machines

Testatika and Hyde Generator Correlation

[Aromaz]

Motion and Anti-Motion

Testatika and Hyde Generator Correlation

Hallo Bodkins! There is still a lot I would like to know about the secretive Testatika!

I was tobbing about the causes and effects of BEMF last night. Why is it that we do get the BEMF and sometimes so extremely strong. Yes, before I did explain this in how the electrons are kicked out of their place by magnetic force. Then Tesla keeps on hammering there are no electrons?

I think we can compare it to our modern day motion; somehow. When you are standing in a bus and that bus suddenly pulls away, you are thrown backwards..... WHY? There is no force of wind, and the gravity of the earth is all over the same, not to say such gravity should keep you motionless.

G-Force = Gravity force. So what should have an effect on you is only the gravity of the bus, or for the same manner an aircraft. Then when such a device comes to a sudden stop - you are thrown forward with force .... and bounce back. In most cases of accidents it is actually the backwards motion AFTER the stop that kills people. I learned about the motion forces when I was in school, but with what we know today, it does in fact not make sense anymore, there seems to be something missing that cause us to 'want to remain motionless with pull away and wants to remain in motion when craft stopping.

OK, gravity - that is pulling to the earth. So if you are in that special plane that they use now for edutainment and experiments of weightlessness. When that plane nose dive, why do you get glued to the roof, that is NOT earth gravity anymore. There is an opposing force to the earth gravity, and it is not air. Might this be somehow connected to the aether?

So, in theory we can say the 'electrons' want to remain motionless, are forced to move and then when they are in motion and forced to stop - they want to continue moving. Since there is nowhere to go - they bounce backwards - BEMF. But then why is the BEMF so much stronger thatn the original force that set it in motion?

Now, let us accept Tesla "There are no electrons" for another exercise. Electricity only comes to be with magnetic flux. And current through a conductor causes magnetic flux. #1 makes # 2 and #2 makes #1. Then why are they not able to run in a closed loop forever?

We are trying to develop a method to extract the Energy from the Universe. Is it not just possible that we already do? It is possible that all our current devices (generators, Alternators) are in fact already forming a gateway to the Universal Energy – only very un-economic and lost of waste. In that case we should not look at new doorways to this energy, but rather how to make the doorway bigger. The answer is not to discover how to extract it, but how to better convert it. Tesla vs Hertz. Sparky Floyd Sweet – he used a magnet and copper wire. Exactly the same material used today in ALL electricity generation.

Oh my head. Maybe we should start all over again and rethink the complete discover of electricity. Maybe it is required to re-invent this wheel, rewrite all history and electrical science?

Nikola Tesla, we are ready for you and we need your brains!

[boguslaw]

Aromaz,

If you have extremely strong back EMF then turn device 90 degrees and compare, then revert back.

[Inquorate]

Bemf

I don't think Bemf is a good way to access pure aether flow. The ratio of the amount of energy it takes to charge a coil to the amount of energy supplied when coil takes energy from aether to sustain itself - is too low. Yes, it is fairly pure voltage. But not enough 'return on one's investment'

What I think is happening in switch on time in a circuit is; much like a permanent magnet, the electrons in the conductor line up, or are polarized towards voltage potential of the dipole. This creates a 'slippery slide' or path of very low resistance for aether flow (from ground or virtual ground) - and when the aether starts streaming, it starts knocking electrons around, moving them side to side and eventually (fractions of a second) along the circuit.. So the 'electron bunching effect' where voltage momentarily increases at switch closure, before electron movement - IS NOT AN INCREASE - it is the amount of voltage / aether flow BEFORE electrons (current) start inhibiting the aether (voltage), and current is a brake to aether flow.

So, apart from Electrets which create a PERMANENT voltage dipole for aether flow, I am trying to work out how to create unidirectional dc pulses in the 100k voltage range, and am building a tesla coil to do this, it will fit right onto my current circuit, right after spark gap...

I hope to get a pure aether, no electron, gaseous stream...

[Aromaz]

@Inquorate;I don't think Bemf is a good way to access pure aether flow.
I agree, but IF Tesla is right and there is no 'electron' THEN both the pulsing energy and the BEMF is in fact the same energy, just magnified.

The ratio of the amount of energy it takes to charge a coil to the amount of energy supplied when coil takes energy from aether to sustain itself - is too low. Yes, it is fairly pure voltage. But not enough 'return on one's investment'
This is where we will have to rethink the application of magnets.

Electron movement is in fact not a flow or any other than a relay effect. Exactly the same as in our bodies with nerve implulses. Very interesting how many things are coming together to make a better understanding.

I hope to get a pure aether, no electron, gaseous stream...
I am with you on that one, but how to even think of that?

[sucahyo]

@Joit, I am a bit confuse with the condition of my transistor. It will stay cool at normal operation, when the back EMF is not utilized. Input current usually around 240mA. But when I add load like zinc carbon battery to recovery part, the transistor get very very hot, especially at max BEMF. Current draw usually increase to 300mA.

So, in theory we can say the 'electrons' want to remain motionless, are forced to move and then when they are in motion and forced to stop - they want to continue moving. Since there is nowhere to go - they bounce backwards - BEMF. But then why is the BEMF so much stronger thatn the original force that set it in motion?

Agree, also confuse about it. But if we think electron have momentum, or kinetic power, then electron must have mass. What make them accelerate is not discussed in common science. No mass = Infinite acceleration = impossible.

Tesla mention that it is actually ether that make the electron move, electron stand in the way so the ether force them to move to other place. When the electron stopped because there is no place to jump anymore, the ether still flow. But since the gate is shut the ether will try to find another route.

If you have extremely strong back EMF then turn device 90 degrees and compare, then revert back.

I want to try it, 90 degree to what? coil cable? My current transistor is Toshiba 2N3055 with the collector part is the outside metal case.

I currently produce 120mA BEMF. Input have current of 240mA when BEMF not utilized, 310mA if BEMF is utilized. I use BEMF to power my single HHO cell. It is interesting that the power increase only half of what the BEMF produce. I think I will make the video of this. will be posted later.

[Inquorate]

How to think of 100kv dc pulse

Well, obviously diodes won't have a fart's chance in a hurricane of working, so I'll have to be a little ingenious with a spark gap, where the electrodes are coils that create a north magnetic field from pos ball shaped electrode and a south from neg pointed electrode, possibly with a freely suspended third electrode in the middle, shaped like a teardrop with it's pointed end towards neg electrode..

If the distance is set just right, I theorise that a spark one way will make the jump, but will not jump the other way. And obviously the gap will require magnetic or air quenching..

So, lots to do. One set of fingers crossed in anticipation :-)

[Inquorate]

Um

I think I may have ball and pointed electrodes mixed up, and might want to reverse everything so actual electron flow and thus aether stream is LEAVING the circuit, not going into it, else it will probably blow something up...

Food for thought anyway :-)

[hh1341]

I think we can compare it to our modern day motion; somehow. When you are standing in a bus and that bus suddenly pulls away, you are thrown backwards..... WHY?

When a body is at rest it wants to stay at rest.......etc

When a body is buried it should stay buried

When a body is like mine it should keep it's clothes on.

Carl

[Inquorate]

@hh1341

Well, that's very cheery dude. nice to have you on board :-)

[Aromaz]

More mix for the cake!

DePalma was even more intrigued when he launched pairs of ball bearings, one spinning to the left and the other spinning to the right. He found that each bearing rose and fell at a different rate, indicating that each might be interacting with a different source of energy in a different way.

Faraday also invented what he called a homopolar generator in 1831. He found that electric current can be taken from a spinning copper disk when the disk is rotated along with the magnets, instead of past the magnets, as in the induction generator. This unique setup may have allowed Faraday to tap into a different source of energy.

Magnets, rotation, direction - VORTEX! Why are all the planets, even our whole complete Galaxy rotate in the same direction?

Charge Cluster violates a law of physics: "Like electrical charges, either negative or positive, repel." Since all electrons carry a negative charge, conventional science says that they should not cluster. It is a tightly packed cluster of about 100 million electrons. Shoulders has been able to create conditions under which electrons break free from their nuclei and join together into remarkably stable little ring-shaped clusters, like tiny donuts. "It is the wildest electronic effect you will ever see," Shoulders says, calling his creations "little engines of vast complexity that just don't die!"

Shoulders has broken through with a 1991 patent titled, "Energy Conversion Using High Charge Density." Their high energy makes charge clusters very powerful they can bore holes through ceramic tile without losing strength. Because of the Casimir effect, space energy appears to fit the evidence from Shoulders's experiments as a likely source of this energy.

[Aaron]

N Machine

Aromaz, there are a few thread on the Faraday type motor:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...generator.html

N Machine

[sucahyo]

I think I may have ball and pointed electrodes mixed up, and might want to reverse everything so actual electron flow and thus aether stream is LEAVING the circuit, not going into it, else it will probably blow something up...

It depend on what we think caused the voltage jump, is it electron or is it the other one. Currently unsure of which is which...........

Tesla use permanent magnet, maybe worth to try.



Here is the video.
YouTube - BEMF and current measurement

The current change a little, 260mA loaded, 210mA unloaded, the load current is 100mA.

[Aromaz]

Coil reaction

.........The secondary coil resonance seems to be bracketed by another phenomena where the frequency drops to 14.2 and voltage goes slightly up – Peak to 62.4V and Average volt to 2.3V...........

Problem solved, it is a glitch in my scope scanning, when the peak voltage goes just that little bit higher, the scope switches to a faster scan time.
Sorry for the puzzlement!