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[Inquorate]

Frequency drop near resonance point

Never heard of / spotted that before, but then again I've got no sg or Oscilloscope.. Sounds like a question for gotoluc.

[Joit]

@Sucahyo
i think, you use the Curcuit from the last Video?
and i guess, you dont have a Meter, where you can measure the Frequency?
Maybe it goes up, or the Batt does makes a Short, whatgives to much backflow to the minus.
i would measure the V at the Base still, and between C and E, what runs there.
But when i run my Transistor at my Bedini at solid state at high Frenquence,
it goes hot too, and when i put my finger at the Backside, i get a Shock from it.
There i am not sure, if its the Mass of the Energy, what is running over there, or only the fast on and off.
But there are ways to put the load faster away from the Transistor that it unload faster.
And a Transistor works like a Sparkgap, when you got more Current at the Base, the connection between C and E is bigger.
Its like 2 colored spikes, when current starts, the top of the spike is some 'red' rest is blue. More Current at base, half from this Spike, or mountain is Red, other half blue between C and E.
..|B
C/\E
Maybe you try once a other Battery or a Akkumulator, when the Voltage around the Contacts are ok.
Would be interestring, if your Frequency does increase, when you connect a load.

@Aromaz
I still think too, that there are Electrons at all.
But question for me is, do they get a load, or do the move, or do the move only a certain way from a push, and give the load away, or do they only change her structure..
And for your Example of the Bus, its usual the Inertia, when you stand at the Bus.
when you lay down, the force is not that big,
It is the Axis, how the Mass is spread.
This Forces works at the Electrons to, thats why a Coil first make the Resistance and then the Current, what goes throught.
About your Nose of the Plane, its the speedup at the other Direction and Inertia, what build up a opposite Force against Gravity.
Thats why Earthgravtiy becomes Zero Force.
Its like the Ball, what you push up at the Air, and he got the same at his Deathpoint.
But maybe there is a Gap, where you can work with the force from the Dipole as opposite, and use the Forces.

About the Coil, maybe you can drag it into lenght, maybe its only the Flux, what interacts at the Wires, and increase the Voltage.
I got some strange effects too at my 3-Coils-behind Setup.
At a certain Frequence, what i adjust with a pot at the Wire from each Coil is a Point, where all slows down, and Hz are very low, around 20-60.
I think, its the Magnetfield from one Coil, what change the Direction.
I did see that at one coil, that i need to change the connections opposite, and then it worked.
As did put one Coil out, and did run it again, the Field from the Coil did change back to first state.

Yesterday i played around with my Coils, and put back the Bemf into the Circuit.
The Effect was, that it sequenctial drags and speed up the Rotor.
And i am pretty sure, that its from the BEMF.
At my scope, the brighter Dots at top of the Spikes do itself build a Wave.
And i guess, thats the longitudinal Wave, what Tesla mentions.
But i am still not sure, if it comes from the BEMF or the Flux, what interact at the Coils.
And what i ve saw, is the Power, what is in this Dots seems not be more, as the Load at the Circuit is. But anyhow, you cant measure very well Dots at a Screen from a Scope .

Edit.
I think more its a matter of Degree when you can manipulate the Forces of Inertia at one Hand.
But i still have a Eye at the Frequency.

[Aromaz]

Never heard of / spotted that before, but then again I've got no sg or Oscilloscope.. Sounds like a question for gotoluc.

I posted it there too.

At least if you did not read about such I can feel a tiny little better. Doubtfull but -if nobody saw the same I will be very amazed.

[Aromaz]

@Sucahyo
........I think more its a matter of Degree when you can manipulate the Forces of Inertia at one Hand. But i still have a Eye at the Frequency.

I found a little problem in my scope - problem for me because I did not know it. The scope switched to a faster scan rate in AUTO mode. Now I have it to manual and force a high scan rate - all is normal and the drop in frequency is not there anymore.

BUS: It only feels less whan you lie down because you donot loose balance, the force is still there and the same.
I do agree - to an extend about the inertia. But still doe snot make sense because you are in a bus, enclosed. I found another explanation later that was given around 1890 - that is is the effect of aether resistance. I will need to chew on that one a bit.

[Joit]

I found a little problem in my scope - problem for me because I did not know it. The scope switched to a faster scan rate in AUTO mode. Now I have it to manual and force a high scan rate - all is normal and the drop in frequency is not there anymore.

Damn, who fix my Meter then, i bet, it still apears by me.
But i did rewind and rewire the Coils so often last time, i think i cant replicate it.

About the Bus i still stay at my thinking about the 90° Force from gravity to your Axis,
Or whereever the Point at Earth is, where you get draged too.
I think the Drag is at the whole Material too at the Car, but the Material is strong enough.
The drag starts at he Gum at the wheels forward, and all is connected togheter. But at all these things is the Drag, and cause is the 90° Earth gravity.
Do you know, there are pice of Roads in Italy and Poland, where Cars and Balls rolls uphill?
Some explain it with holes at the Earth field. Lets go there, and do some experiments

[Joit]

And no about my Meter,
it still runs at 50Hz with my 3 Coils, my other Motor runs at the same speed at 170hz.
When i connect 2 chargebatts in Series, it Divide the Hz too for each.
Only the 'Basis' Hz at the Circuit stays at 170.
But the Load for my 9V Batts is not to bad at all, even at this low frequency.

[Aromaz]

Do you know, there are pice of Roads in Italy and Poland, where Cars and Balls rolls uphill? Some explain it with holes at the Earth field. Lets go there, and do some experiments

All over the world, have same in South Africa and my father used to toggle my brains with that. In reality is is a optical illusion. Many years later I went there and observed that even water runs 'uphill'. We checked it from distance with scope to make sure - it is in fact downhill.

I will rest on the inertia - for now.

[Joit]

Well, who knows, and the Force from Earth Gravity and Ether acts pretty same.
But i think its easier to figure, when you can replicate it with the Gravity model.
The 90° angle seems got something. Or, when i turn my Coresheets 45° to the Magnets i got the best effect on them, repell or generating Current.
But i think, you aint right now at it, to play with the Angle of your Coils right now.

[Vortex]

Same Detector - different use

Just a little kink in the train-of-thought about what is causing what to happen.
Something to make you go ... Hmmmmmm ...

The Bedini Charger Neon on cap (cap does Not mean a capacitor in this video)
The video starts out kinda lame and in the middle begins the Oh-My.

This isn't something new and is an OLD discovery / observation, it seems,
but should be remembered as an additional source of detection.
Maybe you all already know about this, then just kept it in your mind.

Neon lights via energy conveyed by matter, through plastic, when
the circuit is turned OFF.

The title uses the phase "Bedini charger" but details about it are not
given other than he is using a 220v down to 12 volt through a power pack.

What is the method which this energy is conveyed through plastic,
or through the on/off switch?

Yes, he is "touching", this touching might or could be replaced via a
longer wire being attached to allow "pressure" to be released via greater
surface area and light the neon. As he states: "it lights a little without
me 'grounding' it"

This guy stopped too soon, he didn't bulb the charger insulated leads, the
charger or power pack.

I was unable to see this neon effect with my Imhotep's relay charger using
a 120v to 12 v power pack.

Does this have broader and wider implications?

The bell / neon / pressure release wire (antenna / ground) device picks
up through the air energy.

How does this energy travel, by what method is it conveyed?
In this video example, it moves through matter but not air or is it
moving through air and bell detector is required?
Is it moving by resonance?
It appears to be distance restricted.

Just
Randy

[Inquorate]

Tesla coil links

I should have checked this stuff out BEFORE I started winding my secondary... Oh well.

The second link has various calculators that might be generally useful

Tesla coil design page
DeepFriedNeon - Tesla Coils

Useful Calculators for coil inductance capacity, resonance etc
DeepFriedNeon - Tesla Coils

[mrbreau]

It is appearances

(snip)

I think we can compare it to our modern day motion; somehow. When you are standing in a bus and that bus suddenly pulls away, you are thrown backwards..... WHY? There is no force of wind, and the gravity of the earth is all over the same, not to say such gravity should keep you motionless.

G-Force = Gravity force. So what should have an effect on you is only the gravity of the bus, or for the same manner an aircraft. Then when such a device comes to a sudden stop - you are thrown forward with force .... and bounce back. In most cases of accidents it is actually the backwards motion AFTER the stop that kills people. I learned about the motion forces when I was in school, but with what we know today, it does in fact not make sense anymore, there seems to be something missing that cause us to 'want to remain motionless with pull away and wants to remain in motion when craft stopping.

OK, gravity - that is pulling to the earth. So if you are in that special plane that they use now for edutainment and experiments of weightlessness. When that plane nose dive, why do you get glued to the roof, that is NOT earth gravity anymore. There is an opposing force to the earth gravity, and it is not air. Might this be somehow connected to the aether?

So, in theory we can say the 'electrons' want to remain motionless, are forced to move and then when they are in motion and forced to stop - they want to continue moving. Since there is nowhere to go - they bounce backwards - BEMF. But then why is the BEMF so much stronger thatn the original force that set it in motion?

Now, let us accept Tesla "There are no electrons" for another exercise. Electricity only comes to be with magnetic flux. And current through a conductor causes magnetic flux. #1 makes # 2 and #2 makes #1. Then why are they not able to run in a closed loop forever?

We are trying to develop a method to extract the Energy from the Universe. Is it not just possible that we already do? It is possible that all our current devices (generators, Alternators) are in fact already forming a gateway to the Universal Energy – only very un-economic and lost of waste. In that case we should not look at new doorways to this energy, but rather how to make the doorway bigger. The answer is not to discover how to extract it, but how to better convert it. Tesla vs Hertz. Sparky Floyd Sweet – he used a magnet and copper wire. Exactly the same material used today in ALL electricity generation.

Oh my head. Maybe we should start all over again and rethink the complete discover of electricity. Maybe it is required to re-invent this wheel, rewrite all history and electrical science?

Nikola Tesla, we are ready for you and we need your brains!

I am sure it is a matter of perspective regarding the person in the bus. If you balance a broom in the palm of your hand and imagine yourself as the broom and the palm of your hand as the bus then it becomes quite clear what motion is effecting what matter…………to me at least. It appears the two separate entities are supposed to act as one. For example, the pole that you are hanging onto isn’t swaying. It moves WITH the bus! Sure, it is fastened top and bottom but that is what makes it a part of the bus and you not. The seats don’t sway even with people in them.

I wish I could figure out electrical stuff as easy as I see this.

Where does it say that electrons want to stay motionless? The literature I’ve read says quite the opposite. Suppose they are already moving and when you pass a magnet by them they are forced to go somewhere other than where they are. And when the magnet has passed by they want to get back to where they were to begin with?

Suppose electricity is not the primary force? Isn’t using electricity to find a newer, better force like opening a book in the middle and expecting to make sense of it?


Warren
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[Aromaz]

@Warren, the questions in my search keep heaping up. The seats in the bus 'wants to move' when stop and pull away, they are just bolted down. Put them loose and you will see. The broomstick on your hand is rather confirming what I say, but added in another feature, why does it want to fall sideways when not in perfect balance? Because of gravity. Then why does it not fall when in perfect balance? Or why does it fall if you suddenly move your hand away from the perfect balance point?

I have studied harder and learned more about science in this past four months than I did in 12 years of formal school! My current subject is still "Back to Basics" but that basics has now gone to the real basics - Quantum Physics - Quarks, gluons, hadrons - all words I never heard of before in my life.

Strange as this might sound; I think more and more we will need to have a basic understanding of this before we will be able to achieve our target; unless someone have an accident like I did with my circuit fluctuating on resonance demand.

Here is an interesting ‘photo’ of atoms - Sharpest Manmade Thing

[mrbreau]

Simple?

@aromaz
I suppose there is nothing wrong with complicating something simple as long as it is understood by someone. It is a FACT that I don't understand all I know!

I'm back to just thinking and NOT doing any research. I was thinking this afternoon that the amimal body is the perfect antena/battery to run the animal machine. Very low voltage and very low current keeps the machine running. Slight jolts to the electrical system cause all kinds of anomalies, dysfunctional muscles or fibrilating heart. Too low voltage/current and the machine stops.

Now suppose that an electric motor was a perfect *mismatch of impedence* so that it would run? I use the word "imnpedance" here not in the electrical sense but in the sense that something impedes the progress of something else. The magnets in a motor both help and impede. It is the timely switching of that impedance that makes the motor happen.

Suppose now that we designed a motor that didn't have the need for such impedance and switching? Very low voltage and very low current? What materials would we use for such a motor? What kind of motion would cause it to work, piston back and forth or shaft turning? We started with the wheel but suppose there was another way? Whoa!

I'm still at the title page of the book. When I get through with the title page I'll turn the page and see when the book was printed and who printed it. Then I'll go on to page one or something.

Just some thoughts that keep me occupied.

Warren
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[Inquorate]

Perfect motor

Google homopolar electric motor. :-)

[sucahyo]

@Joit, I use microphone to hear the frequency.

Here is the video showing the voltage with sound is the transformer frequency.
YouTube - frequency change with different BEMF load

I got some shock too. Even when I don't use the high voltage part at all, the spark when connecting to 1.5V battery is a bit big. From the frequency, I seems to get max BEMF when the frequency at around 50Hz. I think it is BEMF feedback or something.

The frequency does increase when there is load.

@Inquorate, nice link.


About atom, anyone has picture or illustration of how the atom look like based from Keely atom microscope?