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  • sucahyo; ......I seems to get max BEMF when the frequency at around 50Hz. I think it is BEMF feedback or something.

    A low frequency is not really good. If you get 50 Hz be suspicious that somehow you are getting interferences from your AC - electricity in Indonesia it is 50 Hz.

    I – personally - has not yet found a coil that has resonance at lower than 400 Hz. You have to increase the frequency, typically on my automotive coils the resonant frequency is from 2,700 Hz upwards depending on the load.

    That is the power in that little circuit I did, Dynamic Resonance – the name statement which nobody ever asked me about.

    The open end circuit adjusts frequency on demand - to obtain near perfect resonance. That is the biggest mystery I can not yet explain in my circuit. That is why; when I put diodes and resistors in the circuit it looses the dynamic FQ ability. I have tested three different kinds of coils: Hitachi, Chinese no-name and one very small induction coil I made myself – every time the circuit settles on different frequency.

    Lowest I had on any coil was 470 Hz. So how do I know it is a resonant frequency? There is no way to actually measure it directly – each time you add something like the scope it changes the frequency! BUT I have tested the coils alone for their resonant frequency: 3,284 2,740 and 470 Hz. When these coils are fed from the circuit – that is near their standard frequency without any load.

    About atom, anyone has picture or illustration of how the atom look like based from Keely atom microscope
    There are no photos of Atom; air molecules are too big compared to small atom therefor there can be no reflection to present us with photo. The only possible option is the actual photo link I placed in my previous posting above - and that is a 'scanned' real photo. Interesting to read about how they made it. Of things like nucleus, neutrons, electrons - not yet possible, except in case of electrons they could sometimes get the spoor / track / trace of its movement.
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • @Aromaz, I use transfomer commonly use for adapter. I think the transformer is tuned to work at that frequency. The core is soft steel, maybe this also contribute to 50Hz resonance.

      I already tried using higher resistance and make the frequency unhearable, but at high frequency the LED I use as BEMF indicator show less and less current.


      about your circuit, do you have a way to force spesific frequency to your circuit? Because I think that what happen at your early video when the light brighter when two CFL in series but goes dimmer when three in series, is a sign of hitting resonance frequency at two load.

      I think the circuit is not adjusting to resonance frequency but it force to change the frequency because the load may act as capacitor. This is my opinion about why your circuit can light up neon brighter at certain number of CFL in series.

      But, we can measure wether the circuit is resonance or not by measuring the BEMF current. We can also see the intensity of CFL as a sign of higher BEMF.

      When there is no load, your circuit will sing according to LC / RC rule. Which may not be at resonance frequency. When you add load the frequency goes higher. At some load you will hit resonance frequency.


      About atom, according to Dale Pond, Keely developed a microscope that can make atom visualized at the wall at 19 centuries. He can manipulate the atom movement or even stop it too. I just wondering wether there is a picture of it.
      Last edited by sucahyo; 01-20-2009, 03:38 AM.

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      • Proof transistors don't switch on off well

        Else the neon would always glow purple..

        YouTube - Inquorate 24 - slayer's big joule thief

        http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=NGGd9tJGx0c

        YouTube - brighter purple flashes
        Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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        • Video # 25 seems stuck uploading

          Here it is again

          YouTube - Inquorate 25
          Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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          • @Sucahyo;
            about your circuit, do you have a way to force spesific frequency to your circuit? Because I think that what happen at your early video when the light brighter when two CFL in series but goes dimmer when three in series, is a sign of hitting resonance frequency at two load.
            To force resonance I need to install 2x12,000+ V diodes - one on + of coil and the other on base of 2222. When I do that, the frequency is controllable; but I loose the dynamic effect. With frequency then controllable I can tune to the same frequency when using 1 or 2 or 3 lights with near similar effect as when I do not control the fq. Though from 2 to 3 CFL's the light in the tube goes down, the total amount of light is still increasing.

            I think the circuit is not adjusting to resonance frequency but it force to change the frequency because the load may act as capacitor. This is my opinion about why your circuit can light up neon brighter at certain number of CFL in series.

            Negative for the gas CFL's to act as capacitor with only one pole connected. The auto resonace frequency is not exactly the same as when controlled - but always within 10%. Also when touching the base of 2222 with earth in short sparks, the frequenncy does sometimes change - goes up to 6KHz or even 14KHz, which are harmonics in this coil.

            But, we can measure wether the circuit is resonance or not by measuring the BEMF current. We can also see the intensity of CFL as a sign of higher BEMF.
            When there is no load, your circuit wil

            There is however more to that than most people are aware. I will make a very short video clip of one particular wave change on the scope for sake of interest.

            About atom, according to Dale Pond, Keely developed a microscope that can make atom visualized at the wall at 19 centuries. He can manipulate the atom movement or even stop it too. I just wondering wether there is a picture of it

            I can not find any such picture or references except in Keely.net.

            Reference about microscopes: Microscope - New World Encyclopedia
            Last edited by Aromaz; 01-20-2009, 05:43 AM.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • @Aromaz,
              Ok.

              To force resonance I need to install 2x12,000+ V diodes - one on + of coil and the other on base of 2222. When I do that, the frequency is controllable; but I loose the dynamic effect.
              Can you control frequency at will like from 100Hz to 1000Hz or so?

              Why do you think the frequency that the circuit attain itself is resonance frequency? Isn't resonance frequency is mean to be forced and we know that the circuit is in resonance when the input require lowest current or the output produce highest current?



              I can not find any such picture or references except in Keely.net.
              I see. maybe we can learn better if we have it:
              Originally posted by http://keelynet.com/keely/danart1.htm
              The bulk of his scientific treatises have been lost to the world. Except for Mrs. Moore's biography on him the world considers his system lost; however, Keely communicated the basic laws of his system to his close friend, William J. Colville, a publisher and student of metaphysics and a well-known author of metaphysical literature. Colville embodied Keely's system into a little-known metaphysical novel entitled Dashed Against the Rock. It is a romance of a young "establishment" scientist who is led by steps and stages to an acceptance of the laws governing mental science. He is given instruction by a character who represents Keely, Mr. Aldebran, a mystic and scientist who has delved deep into and understanding of nature. The book contains over 40 new laws of physics, Keely's molecule in diagram form as he saw it with his vibratory microscope, plus many other insights into the activities of life. The 40 laws supposedly represent Keely's system laid out in a succinct codified exposition.
              Originally posted by http://keelynet.com/shapefor.htm
              John W. Keely used such vibrating waveplates as an early, yet more advanced form of oscilloscope, allowing him to see not only the waves but how they interacted with each other. The waveplate principle was the basis for his ultraviolet projection microscope which allowed him to view vibrating atoms on a screen.
              Originally posted by http://keelynet.com/keely/rfp1.txt
              Keely Terms Modern Terms
              Molecular Molecular
              Inter-Molecular None
              Atomic Atomic
              Inter-Atomic Quark
              Etheric Prion
              Inter-Etheric None

              The terms indicated the various aggregate levels of which matter is composed. These were determined by Keely with the use of his Acoustic Microscope which allowed him to directly view the structure of the various components. As we understand it from Dan A. Davidson, the Acoustic Microscope projected the actual moving structure on a wall for detailed study.

              One of the most astounding of his discoveries was the concept of the Neutral Centre. The Neutral Centre was at the heart of each structure in Nature ranging from the prion to the quark to the atom to the molecule to the mass aggregation.

              Individually, the Neutral Centre acts as a drain for the Aether to pass presumably into the 4th dimension. When they gather or cluster, they each have a separate drain with another Master Neutral Centre formed from the combination of all the mass components. This is what is termed the "Center of Mass" in modern physics.

              The velocity of the Aetheric flow is determined by the mode of operation by which the mass is currently ruled. The Neutral Centre can be thought of as an adjustable diaphragm which can control the amount of Aether which flows into the "drain" of the Neutral Centre.

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              • More on the switch sparking

                I know I'm hung up on this at the moment, but it is SO different when I manually spark the circuit as opposed to when the transistor is switching off and on...

                YouTube - Inquorate 26
                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                  I know I'm hung up on this at the moment, but it is SO different when I manually spark the circuit as opposed to when the transistor is switching off and on...

                  YouTube - Inquorate 26

                  I am biting my nails for 18h00 when our ISP bandwith gets more free. Tried since this morning to download your videos from #23 but have eratic connection problems. Hope to see them tonight.
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                    @Aromaz,

                    Can you control frequency at will like from 100Hz to 1000Hz or so?
                    Why do you think the frequency that the circuit attain itself is resonance frequency? Isn't resonance frequency is mean to be forced and we know that the circuit is in resonance when the input require lowest current or the output produce highest current?
                    Those are th eonly references on KeelyNet of that scope. None anywhere else.

                    I tested the coils and wires running only from signal generator with 1V, scanned frequency from 1.0 Hz to 8 MHz and made list of resonance and all harmonics. Then I ran it as usual in the circuit. Frequency is fluctuating within the range of the resonance, not always right on the peak, but near.
                    Why? I think because of self balancing and with HV radiation feeding the base of the 2222.

                    Provided I use the 12KV diode to protect my signal generator - yes I can force run at frequency from 0.01 Hz to 8.0 MHz.
                    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                    • Announcing an impending endeavor

                      In response to this question from Sucahyo, and various queries made to me recently re my statements about aether theory,

                      Originally posted by sucahyo
                      hello,

                      here is my question:

                      why things collide

                      why things stick

                      why things repel

                      what make things conduct

                      what make things magnetized

                      why we feel shock of electricity or ether

                      what is mass

                      what can cause solid property

                      why you call ether solid


                      Thank you
                      I have decided to do the following, which is the message I sent Sucahyo:

                      Originally posted by Inquorate
                      Ok, I started writing you an answer, and it's a really big question. I have the answer though, I'm just thinking it deserves a series of youtube videos. And while I'm at it, I'll explain my entire aether theory. So, I'll spend the next two days considering some subject headings (your questions will help with that in part) and then will start drawing pictures to accompany my video talks for each heading.

                      So in short, you'll have to wait a while, but I hope it will be worth the wait! :-)

                      All I ask for is your patience as I try get it done :-)
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                        All I ask for is your patience as I try get it done :-)
                        I will wait under the bed, think you might throw us with bombs!
                        Seriously; I am looking very much forward to your presentation!
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • Rsonance and some interesting wave form video's

                          OK, video’s uploaded (and busy downloading Inquorate – at last :~(

                          Video #031 – Ignition coil with some peculiar wave forms – and reversed ‘ringing’ ?
                          YouTube - Aromaz 031 - Ignition coil wave forms on scope

                          Video #032 - Standard single layer coil with scope and signal generator – no other electronics.
                          Purpose to observe various wave forms and oddities in coil. Got more than expected.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1nDQ8W_8WQ
                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                            I know I'm hung up on this at the moment, but it is SO different when I manually spark the circuit as opposed to when the transistor is switching off and on...
                            It is intriguing.

                            I do not say it is - – only it is possibly due the light trying to catch up with the pulse and wave length – will need to use high speed camera and slow down to observe colour spectrum.

                            When you flash/short with hand there is a momentary friction which cause a flutter in the transistor. I see similar result often on scope wave form when I make a life connection with clamp on wire - momentary friction/flutter.

                            Purple light is around 400 nm and orange/red higher at about 650 nm wave length THOUGH their frequency is the opposite: Purple = 600THz and Orange is 500 THz.

                            Maybe we should have a long overdue deeper look into the Neon bulb.
                            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                            • NE-2 and NE-51

                              What can I say other than "I should have read this earlier"
                              No problems, but that I should have known more.
                              In fact there are more to the neon light than ....... just a light.

                              By knowing more (back to basics) we can use more effective
                              and have better results.
                              I like the idea of DC vs AC in neon, did not realize that before…….

                              Good advice, read this:
                              Neon lamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                              This one really kicked my but: Neon can be lit by static charge - not connected! I tried now and truely have to rethink much about the neon activities.

                              http://www.raft.net/ideas/Neon%20bul...0it%20Glow.pdf

                              NE-2 as X-Ray / nuclear radiation detector !!!!
                              Neon Quench Circuit
                              It also reacts with certain light frequencies like quartz halogen
                              Last edited by Aromaz; 01-20-2009, 12:12 PM.
                              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                              • ''in a dc exited lamp, only the negative electrode glows'' - then why does an ac current between the collector and emitter of a 2n3055 glow on the emitter (negative) side (from dc applied to primary converted into ac sine wave in secondary of Bifiliar wound coil), and when manually sparked, does the neon emit purple mushroom cloud enclosing whole neon globe?

                                Because switch on and off thru spark does not create 'conventional' electricity?

                                Methinks 'yes'
                                Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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