Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Aromaz]

Suicidal Bombshell

I was tempted to post this elsewhere, but then though better bring it here since it will
cause my head to be bitten off. We – including me – somehow got under the wrong
idea, probably because we followed blindly. Or because we saw what we wanted to
see, tunnel vision only to what we wish for.

Every kind of electricity we ever can dream of has one thing in common: Electrons.
Thus all radiant, energy from the vacuum, sea of Dirac, zero point – they are only one
and the same electron based electricity.

The only difference is one of two reasons:
1. Positive electrons – which are the anti-electrons (Positrons) and we do not have to worry
about that since it is only effective for a very few Ferro-seconds until it is annihilated by
meeting with an electron.
2. Photons – which seems to be captured and released by electrons.
Photons itself does not have mass or charge.

Radiant energy can then be seen as PHOTONS attached to particles (like electrons) and under specific
conditions is released from that particle. Such release causes a bright spark of LIGHT (Photons).

Thus if we aim to capture Radiant energy in our batteries; it CAN ONLY be captured by
being attached to electrons and holding THAT extra charged electron in a battery. It will not
serve us anything more than making a spike of light when it is released from the electrons.
After that spike of light, the only useful force we have is just the normal electron - and Photon
again. The photon does not add Electro Motive force; neither does it add magnetic force
- Photons are not electromagnetic.

TESLA 1: If you can device a system where electrons are able to capture and release
Photons in a ping-pong game; then you can make unlimited amounts of light
- in fact, you can lit up the sky, clouds, et all – with no wires and no bulbs.

The ball game of getting ‘free energy’ is in fact a complete different thing than which was
perceived by me and probably most other people on this and other similar forums. It is not
how to get radiant energy, it is not how to tap into the ‘unknown energy’ of the universe –
it is pure and simple;

Option 1: How to utilize the recently identified free existing High Energy Neutrons
(Unless you want to play with splitting neutrons from their nucleus!)
Option 2: How to charge and or change electrons;
- for light energy or
- for motive energy.

The same action where a Proton can change to a Neutron by capturing a photon,
is also possible in the reverse where a Neutron changes to a Proton by releasing
a photon; in both cases it caused a huge release of energy – photons.

Electrons can be changed into an unknown number of variations – by adding or
removing photons. This does not result in the explosive and destructive force as
you have with Proton and Neutrons – but it does have two other kinds of reaction
- Light and gravity.

Remember the early experiments of Sir Thompson and Tesla – LIGHT and ELECTRONS?
Better still in our modern day: The working of a solar cell.

What does seems to be possible is that electrons that are charged with extra photons
have a stronger electrical charge, thus more Electromagnetic ability.

Now, this is the part where I am presently expanding my research.
Next item for my lab is a cloud chamber.

[Inquorate]

Another primer

Feeling a bit bad about not having made aether videos yet

So here's another 'primer'

How does a spark 'know' to go from one electrode, thru the air/space, directly to another electrode: specifically 'choosing' the path of least resistance? Ie if you put another electrode with less resistance near a spark discharge, how does the spark know you're doing that?

Why don't sparks expand in all directions until finding that other electrode? How does a spark know where to go BEFORE it leaves to get there?

Riddle me that one, batman :-)

[Bodkins]

Feeling a bit bad about not having made aether videos yet

So here's another 'primer'

How does a spark 'know' to go from one electrode, thru the air/space, directly to another electrode: specifically 'choosing' the path of least resistance? Ie if you put another electrode with less resistance near a spark discharge, how does the spark know you're doing that?

Why don't sparks expand in all directions until finding that other electrode? How does a spark know where to go BEFORE it leaves to get there?

Riddle me that one, batman :-)

Negative leader look at lighting In my kickback reseach there is negative leader from the grounded connection, I can see it pulling.
Purple light= Negative leader.
its a eletrostatic gas type thingy which is what i think comes out of the negative of a Battery.
Thats why you have the transistor connected after the coil in the SG if it what in before I dont think you get the spike.
Gotham City is Saved

[Inquorate]

Here comes another one, just like the other one..

Why does nature abhor a vacuum?

And before you say, easy, it's because in higher pressure, there are more particle collisions so the net movement of particles will be toward where there are less collisions taking place, hence mobile particles in areas of high pressure will want to go where there is less pressure...

I say, yes, that is a very fine description of what is happening.. But WHY?

And before you say, because electron particles emit a virtual sea of other photon particles which interact with (repel) the virtual particles created by other electrons, and the electrons therefore want to move apart.

I say, but electrons emit a virtually infinite number of photons in all directions, so that would create no net movement. Therefore for the purposes of understanding how/why electrons repel each other, we can ignore all the ones that aren't meeting between two electrons.

Imagine that bodkins and Aromaz are electrons. Because in this thought experiment, it's funny to do so. Aromaz and bodkins are running toward each other and throwing an unlimited amount of cakes of equal size that have no mass (virtual photons) and every cake thrown will hit a cake thrown by the other. Consider just the image of bodkins and Aromaz throwing one cake each, and the cakes hit. Throwing the cake will not affect their net movement, because they threw another one behind them at the same time. The cakes hit each other.

Bodkins and Aromaz remain unaffected by that cake collision. Neither would get thrown back.

But before you say that when the chocolate really starts to fly, the cakes will start hitting the cakes already thrown that are impacting on the ones already thrown... Etc, I say we're already talking about a virtually infinite electron cloud, and all the spots available are filled.

When we get to the point where the electrons are really close, and the virtual photons being emitted by each electron are trying to occupy the same space, the net charge of the electron has to be maintained, so the electron will start emitting virtual photons elsewhere, meaning the virtual photon cloud will be egg shaped. So the electrons should keep going toward each other, if photon emission caused electron movement.

but they don't. They go their separate ways. So do electrons chase photons? No. Photons can energize electrons, but they don't run after their own virtual clouds, else they'd never move.

SO, again I say, by what mechanism does nature abhor a vacuum? There is obviously something about the space between two electrons which makes the electron more likely to move away from that space.

Is there something about the space an electron occupies which makes two electrons unable to share that space?

Is it the same something which makes it easier for an electron to 'know' where to go - thru the path of least resistance from low voltage to high voltage - even thru a spark gap?

And is it the same condition of space that determines what voltage is required to cause electron movement (because at high enough voltage EVERYTHING conducts ie dielectric breakdown points)?

[Inquorate]

@ bodkins

So you're saying there is a condition of space that alters in some way BEFORE electron movement begins?

And that this condition is a polarization of space toward higher voltage?

And you are saying that this condition occurs before the voltage spike that occurs before electrons start moving... ?

Because a source of electrons (no current) still 'knows' where to find the high voltage in a hv capacitor (also no current) even thru a vacuum, there must be a polarization of space that 'completes the circuit' before a circuit exists.

[Bodkins]

before and after = time
your setup the coil spike and kickback= purple
you know I like time,the moment=Now to US
But the moment, future and past and not a constant
"time flyes" "today dragged"
over and out Ben

[Aromaz]

The spark does not know anything. In fact the spark does not jump straight over, there are free floating electrons on both sides if the gap – Pos and Neg.
It does not really take the shortest route; it goes the way of highest concentration of electrons. Cloud of electrons. You will often see the spark making an arch.
Another reason for the arch is because of electron spin. This fact alone will reduce the concept of aether. To see this effect nicely is by looking at electron
behaviour in cloud chamber. There are a few videos on internet.

Free electrons are present all around the conductor, even without any current – always, everywhere – even in ‘vacuum’.

If there is pressure from behind like battery supply, the ‘corona’ of electrons is bigger. That is why batteries will eventually go flat over time – even if not connected.

When your gap is too big for them to realize the path, you can short the gap (show them the way) and then the electrons will jump, off course within limits.

Electron jump is possible over longer distances in higher temperature – because the free electrons in the air are already more excited by the higher temperature.

Aether could very well be just exactly that: The Electrons and Photons; since these are ever present in any condition and any material, everywhere in universe
- even vacuum and void space.

My question: There is a release of light both when electron captures and releases a photon.
When you have the electron jumping the gap, that blue spark - Is it because of capture or release of photon?

[Inquorate]

@ Aromaz

Just being the devil's advocate; be mindful of how much contemporary science you are reading, and solid state components you are using.. Using the known scientific theory (aether) of the period (pre 1900's), pre hertzian electromagnetism, and no semiconductors, tesla worked out anti-gravity, made death rays, force fields, pure aether streams, etc. If the current technology and public scientific knowledge had the answers, we'd have tesla's technology back already. So, I'm going to get simple. I've already shown a mechanical switch creates entirely different effects than using semiconductors- which by conventional (not suppressed)electronics should not be different.

Love and light :-)

[Aromaz]

@Inquorate;
Thanks, you know I wish for that DA.

I would invite you to do an exercise:
Make a complete list of every property you can get of Aether.
I will compare that for you with Electron and Photon.
You might be surprised - or I might be.

As for transistors, basically they are the same as switches;
provide you do not go HV.
There are no HV (xxKV) transistors; and in the same - there are no HF (xxKHz) mechanical switches.

[Inquorate]

Transistor switch

Then why does a transistor switching not make a neon go purple, but a mechanical switch does?

- not just being argumentative, I need DA too :-)

A cloud of electrons around both electrodes? Ok, I'll pay that. What about an air quenched spark gap? Even mag quenched gap will attract / repel ions..

I'll take you up on that aether / photon electron challenge, the lists may be very similar.. But I believe that all particles/waves are conditions of stationary aether particles. having no natural net charge or force interaction. Because they don't move in the conventional sense, due to heisenberg's uncertainty principle they must be constantly quantum tunneling and trading places.

they also must be constantly changing energetic state, which they can only do by altering spin speed and direction.

If say 1000 (arbitrary number) aether particles in a lump together spin horizontally clockwise (arbitrary direction) then you have an electron. The electron's aether particles cause whorls in surrounding aether particles which are photons. The spin of photons resonates with and supports the spin of electron aether space, and the electron / photon system will maintain itself.

This explains why there can only be one electron, not 1.5, etc - resonance is not achieved and the spinning aether particles will return to & random' state.

An electron sitting still (no atomic jitter) would by virtue of having constant net energetic value, mean that we knew both the energetic state and the change of energetic state of the aether particles (0) it was made up of. Because of heisenberg's uncertainty principle, we can't know both of these things with complete certainty. If we know one for certain, we can know nothing about the other.

So the aether particles need to change energetic state. This is the cause IMHO of quantum jitter.the electron will need to constantly occupy different space. This will give rise to the probability wave of a particle in QM 'theory'.

And IMO is why a proton and electron will push each other away; the aether particles of each have opposite spin, and it is easier / takes less time for other aether particles away from the proton to allow the electron to occupy their space (be made up of their spin) than ones near the proton.

Also, michaelson morley measured no net movement of aether on earth's surface because they were in fact measuring the electromagnetic state of the aether - not the aether itself. And while the earth is moving thru the aether, it carries the EM state or spin of aether as it relates to said earth / matter - with it... If it didn't, matter would rip into shreds.

Also, moving electrons ( a state of spin moving thru the stationary aether) cause a spin in surrounding (stationary EM state of the) aether ( like how golf balls without those little impressions to increase resistance will curve - with no resistance, it would cause more spin. Aether has no resistance? ) which would be the magnetic field.

Just

Loving the dialogue :-)

[Joit]

A Transistor does not make the same as a mechanical Switch,
because they are better isolate, that the BEMF or Static Energie runs back trough the case to the Ground.
When you put more Current to the Base, the Transtor would more 'open' and i saw, that i get tickeling shocks from the Case, what usual is not normal.
Mainly seems its better, to use a mechanical switch therefor when you wanna work with BEMF.

From most, what Peoples are telling about Zero Point Energie or Ether, it sounds like,
it must be something, where you only have to put a Plug in, and get unlimited Energie.
But its all still a Result of 2 Systems.
Even Zero Point Energy is more like, that you get a Absolute Balance and get off from the Forces, what usual apears and that why they are way more efficient

But i think more, when someone mention it, they had Phenomens from it,
and there, it did look like a own Stage of a Material, and they call it Ether.
See here

Even when this is not a Real Picture.
But its more like Fog, and the Phenomen looks more like a Cause of a Room-Space-Continuum.
Its even more, that they Point to a Level, where Things happens different as you can see at normal Things.
But the Material is still the same, Electrons, Protons.
And play around with Fog, you can whirl it and make some nice Forms with it,
but basically its only Water, what we do know only at a other Form.


" Because of heisenberg's uncertainty principle, we can't know both of these things with complete certainty. If we know one for certain, we can know nothing about the other.
"

I think, THAT is a common missleading for Peoples, it works maybe for your absolute currently Awareness, but not for much other Things.
You can know, how it feels, when its a Rainy Day, or the next is a sunny Day.
You can know, how it feels to be rich, or to be poor.
You can know, how it is, when you are hungry or sated.

But even that you can learn, that you can be aware, how the other Side would be, even with some Delay mostly.
That is, because Peoples can learn and remember, that they can decide between 2 Things.

[Aromaz]

Then why does a transistor switching not make a neon go purple, but a mechanical switch does?

Transistor switching is electron based. Thus there are two streams of electrons through the medium - although extremely fast, it is not in a single moment. On the other hand, mechanical switching is momentary, no need to wait for electron break down of dielectric. In mechanical you will more often find the 'overshoot' on the rising signal in a scope.

A cloud of electrons around both electrodes? Ok, I'll pay that. What about an air quenched spark gap? Even mag quenched gap will attract / repel ions..

What pole of the magnet are you using? I never did this experiment, so would like to know that first because I have three possible answers.

......I believe that all particles/waves are conditions of stationary aether particles. having no natural net charge or force interaction. Because they don't move in the conventional sense, due to heisenberg's uncertainty principle they must be constantly quantum tunneling and trading places......

I am not pro nor con Aether; but in light of the lack for proof of aether and the contrary proof of free electrons, photons, neutrino's I am rather cautious. That which was considered aether is in fact a blend of many other small particles we know today - does exists. The only things we do know about aether is the effects ascribed to aether; none else; and those effects are now divided amongst the smaller identified partickles/waves.

Aether was used as single reference to describe conditions that could not be explained otherwise in the older day. Many things like photons, neutrinos, quarks, kaon, muons etc were only identified much later.

The same history happened with molecules - originally through to be the smallest of all, but could not explain many other effects. Then they discovered the atom (which in fact the structure was already described in the Kabala nearly 4,000 years ago!) Then the Atom was the smallest, yet today we know there are at least 11 smaller particles / matter than the atom.

Now, all the combined effects of those smaller things = effects of aether.

[Inquorate]

mechanical switches

YouTube - regarding high speed mechanical switching

@Aromaz - haven't done experiments myself, but read a patent dmonarch posted in Electret thread about air purifier, and also Tesla's ozone generator patent. If ions will collect on electrodes depending on charge, ions will also be deflected by magnetic field. I also read somewhere a quote by tesla saying vacuum tube may be used as switch instead of spark gap, but that in that case must use magnetic quench, and he found them (vacuum tubes) troublesome.

Re heisenberg's uncertainty principle and quantum tunneling - worth reading up on... It is experimentally proven. My theory re stationary aether and spin explains the mechanism of things that quantum physics only predicts the outcome of.

It also explains gravity, which QM cannot. Busy at work just now, will elaborate on gravity aspect soon.

Re electron clouds - then why does emitter electrode of vacuum tube require separate heater element to create an electron cloud, and collector element not have electron cloud, thus ensuring diode property of vacuum tube?

And again, how does electron cloud 'know' to travel towards collector in tube; there is no electron cloud in tube that is not supplied by heater element.

My theory is that voltage polarity causes alignment of EM spin in aether, regardless of current, and this polarity of aether makes the path of least resistance for electrons.

Imagine lots of rings in a box mostly or just a little (depending on voltage) lining up together presenting many 'tubes' - electrons will travel along the tubes easily, but will encounter resistance and deflection when travelling across the tubes.

Because positive particles have opposite spin (thus opposite charge) they will want to travel the opposite way thru the tubes. But they have much higher inertia (affect more aether particles because bigger size) and this IMO is why electrons want to go up into the sky as lightning, and matter wants to 'fall' to the ground - it is the incredibly high difference of voltage potential of the earth.

[Inquorate]

Ps

The sideways alignment of the rings means when spinning electrons travel thru tubes that the rings themselves spin, making their neighbors spin. So in a circle around the electron movement is the magnetic field.

[Inquorate]

Aether v quantum

And I don't think photon protons electron quarks nuetrons nuetrinos nuclear forces etc are contrary to aether, but are simply a state of aether particle (ball bearings) spin travelling thru aether. EM and voltage and magnetic field and gravity are due to aether state polarization (rings or direction of axis of spin).

In a space without an arrangement of aether particle spin being a particle, at random, a bunch of aether particles will line up in spin just long enough (remember they must be constantly changing spin) to appear to be virtual particles; quantum foam!