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  • Water moving under hv

    What's in the water? Was one of those cups tea? is it acidic or alkaline? That would determine if more positive ions or more negative ions in the liquid, and would change direction of flow?

    Cool video.
    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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    • Positrons electrons going backward in time?

      Read this page :-)

      Retrocausality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      And then this?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_...rapsychologist)
      Last edited by Inquorate; 02-14-2009, 05:29 AM.
      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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      • Food for thought

        Its a little bizarre and might seem a bit off-topic, but i just stumbled over this article that contains some reflections on the connection between mind and EM and for sure is awesomely scary and interesting at the same time.
        Benjamin Fulford's 'Creature'(?)

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        • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
          What's in the water? Was one of those cups tea? is it acidic or alkaline? That would determine if more positive ions or more negative ions in the liquid, and would change direction of flow?
          Unfortunately I don't know which part is positive or negative. I attach the cup and the circuit I use. It is tap water which I made dirty with battery carbon dust. I think anyone having induction coil collpase can replicate it if you can make 2 mm spark.

          Here is with better camera angle, from top:
          YouTube - High voltage can move water #2 vertical shot

          Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
          Its a little bizarre and might seem a bit off-topic, but i just stumbled over this article that contains some reflections on the connection between mind and EM and for sure is awesomely scary and interesting at the same time.
          Benjamin Fulford's 'Creature'(?)
          ether fish? or just worm adapting it self?


          About time reversal effect, isn't things happen because we plan it to happen?
          Attached Files

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          • Announcing my new lab assistant

            Unfortunately, neither of us seems to be the boss..

            YouTube - birds of a feather
            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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            • [QUOTE=Aromaz;44956]I would strongly recommend you to watch this video, and a few days later – watch it at least a second time. Then use some of the info you get in this video and do more research.

              THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS

              QUOTE]


              Since i saw this Video, my Conclusion was, even Current have to die to be reborn.

              But since that, there is no Aether for me anymore. There is only current, inductance and rubbing.
              Its all a cause of Current and EM and magnetical Forces.
              Even Earth gravitationals Pull is a cause of the EM Field of the Earth, like the Magnetfield, what drags to the Middle.

              And you been right with the Neg and pos Charge, its the turning Direction.
              Figure a Circle, where parts are at 9:00 and 3:00.
              They both are moving to 6:00. and one will get positive charge, and one negative.
              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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              • [QUOTE=Joit;45411]
                Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                Its all a cause of Current and EM and magnetical Forces.
                Thanks Joit; I do not feel so lonely anymore!

                As I said before, I spent many hours on study about the official model
                of electrics, magnetic, etc. I do have quite a good ability to learn
                quickly and easy. The problem I developed is that the more I learn;
                the more questions I get - with no answers.

                That is the reason why I started searching further and away from the
                standard model. That video put me on a track and the more I do research
                now, the more of my 1,000's of questions gets answered!
                Not only with EM, but also in religion, ancient history, psychology, physics.......

                Bottom line: YES! I do think it is all coming down to only two forces, the
                one can not without the other - Electro & Magnetic; even the two nuclear
                forces are fracturing down to this.

                More interesting: Ever wondered why - IF they were from another
                planet, and IF they were using 'UFO's' - then why did they not worry about fuel?

                One have to look a much bigger picture - try to combine Suma and Indian;
                you find so many 'mythology' that is actually describing phenomena we are
                seeing in EM today. Go back to early Inca - they had some brooches that
                resemble a aircraft, same on temple of Seti in Egypt. What fuel did they
                use? Fossil ?

                If you look more careful at Inca, Indian, Suma, Egyptian, Aboriginal and
                other very ancient decor - they often use a spiral drawing, as you will also
                see very clearly on the Inca aircrafts.

                Notice how all those models – some 20+ of them, share a few features:
                Vertical tail fin, spiral decor – and separation between forward (Pilot?)
                Section and main body aft. Think High Voltage, imagine you are building
                Such an aircraft driven by High Voltage electricity; would you not make
                A separation between drive system and passenger/crew? IF these were
                In fact high speed space crafts, they were most likely propelled by ionic’s.

                For Christians and Jew – go read the biblical description so the
                ‘Ark of the Covenant’ – but read it with the mind set of looking for any
                indicators that will correspond with electricity. Read about the four cities
                of Sodom and Gomorrah.

                Now it gets more interesting. There are no indications whatsoever of
                something like electronics – computers, generators.
                So how did they get this electricity?

                Start adding up the numbers:

                Spiral - Coil - Tesla pancake coil - bolts of lighting, fire stick, halo, shining….

                1 + 2 +3 +4 = ELECTRICITY!

                The Gods form the Sky got their fuel and energy from THE SKY.

                Now I am on a complete bonkers track here. Or am I ?

                I do not know, but I have that feeling of extreme excitement;
                like I am on the right track here. There are many other things that
                is now adding up.
                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                • Just thinking

                  I've been thinking how to design a circuit / produce an event based on my current understanding of the aether.

                  One pivotal observation I have made is the spark itself. I asked myself, ''how does a spark know where to go?''

                  Electrons jump from a low potential (high pressure) to a high potential (low pressure) in a spark, but unless their path was predetermined in some way (and it is) then the electrons would uniformly spread out from one point (the negative electrode) in a sphere, until encountering the positive electrode.

                  But this doesn't happen. So why?

                  Also, there is a mechanism that determines the break - down voltage level of all matter; the point at which the electrons orbiting the atoms are ripped free of the nuclear bonds, and propelled towards the higher potential. Conductors do this easily, but at high enough voltage, all dielectrics become conductors - often with extra explosive results.

                  My assumption is thus; voltage potential creates (or is) a polarization of the axis of aether spin. Electrons spin one way, and will find the path to positive polarity easier. When the voltage potential is high enough, the electrons will even break free of atomic bonds (or tip over the edge of the atomic hill). This is why lightning is free electrons from the ground going up into the sky.

                  Protons spin the other way (have opposite charge) so want to travel the opposite direction to negative potential, but occupy more space and therefore have higher inertia. This is observed as gravity.

                  SO, the space between a voltage dipole is polarized.

                  What would happen if we suddenly created an area of extreme low pressure (pos) in an electrode, then reset to zero, but before the space became 'un'polarized we did it again and again, with successive unidirectional dc square wave pulses of extremely high frequency? What would happen in the sea of virtual particles?

                  What would happen then, if just beyond the dielectric breakdown distance, we placed a grid containing free electrons, considering that the space it occupies still has a high polarity of axis of spin?

                  Maybe the distance of the grid is the most important detail, and maybe gray's tube was sealed so that the same atmospheric conditions always applied, so that dielectric breakdown voltage was always the same...

                  Anyway, just thinking.

                  Ps tesla said that at high enough frequency of changing voltage between capacitor plates, the voltage can exceed the dielectric breakdown voltage. I believe the staccato changes in voltage polarity means the electrons will not release their atomic bonds.

                  However, would the bigger protons also not move? Or at high enough frequency, high enough voltage, would matter not release (most) of it's electrons (maybe a bit of corona discharge) but still impart motion toward the negative polarity??
                  Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                  • Model for 2012 – Hypothetical

                    By ‘we’ ‘us’ I mean Human race;
                    1. Let us assume the universe operates solely with ElectroMagnetic forces;
                    2. Let us assume that the photos we see from the new IR satellites are;
                    purely what we can see – Plasma and electrical phenomena;
                    3. Let us assume we do understand Sumarian, Verdic and Mayan correctly;
                    4. Let us assume we accept all our religions and prophetic scriptures;
                    5. Then we can accept they are talking of the great disaster coming to the earth;
                    6. Let us assume that our solar system is now entering into the galactic plane and
                    over the period of the next few years will pass through this galactic plane, where
                    our earth will actually pass through the center line in December 2012.

                    7. BUT we can not find Nibiru – we would expect to see it approaching for at
                    Least 80 years – now if this is true, then we can not expect Nibiru to have this
                    big disaster effects soon. Yet, the Mayan calendar expires in 2012, all of
                    Jewish, Christian, Babylonian, Vedic, Islam are clearly indicating we are
                    now in the last moments before major disaster…

                    THEN:
                    On that day 21 Dec 2012 - the Earth will be on the far side of the sun from the
                    Galactic Center – thus ALL the energy from 80% of our Galaxy, together with
                    the sun and most of the planets will be pulling on one side of our little Earth ball.
                    There will be two forces at work, the one is usual Gravity – which is a relative
                    weak force And the other is ELECTRICAL.

                    The gravitational force is gradual and already having its effect on our planet;
                    However the ELECTRICAL or EM force is a more explosive quick effect;

                    If that is going to affect our earth, then you can go back to read ALL religious
                    scriptures, you will find all those prophesies does actually describe what will
                    happen – and we on Energetic has done and seen enough videos of
                    experiments with HV and plasma;

                    TO KNOW THIS IS THE PERFECT MATCH FOR ELECTRON DISASTER!

                    Now, in Vedic (Indain) and the Sumarian there are scriptures that indicates
                    that these ‘Gods from the sky’ has left us guidelines on how to protect our
                    planet from this coming disaster. Where and what are these guidelines.

                    I got a feeling we might be running out of time here. Surprisingly enough,
                    After I developed this hypothesis during this past two weeks, on Sunday
                    Morning I took to the internet to see if there are other people that is talking
                    Of the same possibility – and YES, I am not totally alone in my crazyness.

                    Folks, it does not go about free energy anymore, That is only the by-product
                    - It goes about survival -

                    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                    • Hi Aromaz, i believe in what you say.

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                      • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                        But this doesn't happen. So why?
                        Electrons are there - already awaiting guidance. They are already
                        lined up as potential to the + wire and they are already lined up away
                        from the negative wire.

                        Keep this in mind and watch that excellent video of sucahyo again;
                        Before - way out before the spark; there is already turbulance in the
                        water. Just the potential alone causes this.

                        Now, one more experiment. HV line to spark gap adjuster, set your
                        spark gap a little (1 or 2 mm) bigger than what is required to jump the
                        spark. Insert then a thin piece of metal in the middle of the spark gap
                        - and see the spark going. That piece of metal (al sheet) is not connected
                        to anything.
                        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                        • @sucahyo;

                          Excellent; very nice video of HV effect to water.
                          Shows the electrons seeking their destination!

                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • 'Electrons are already there, lined up..'

                            Yes, I agree. But what lines them up? Not the magnetic field, as there is none without actual current.

                            So we could say it's the electrostatic field that lines up the electrons. That is one explanation of the electret effect.

                            Which is why relative movement between an Electret and a magnet produces a kinetic force vector at 90 degrees to said relative motion.

                            But what is an electrostatic field, and does it exist independent of a medium, ie a vacuum?

                            Which gives me my next experiment..

                            Thankyou Aromaz

                            Does one plate of a capacitor, when in a vacuum, induce a charge in another plate a) outside of a vacuum b) within same vacuum.

                            Aim; determine if electrostatic field is a property of a vacuum, thus determining if another medium is present.
                            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                            • The answers are pouring in

                              Video of sucahyo shows so nicely that the electric force can move the water,
                              now, read the biblical (and Jewish and Islamic) scriptures of the occurance
                              when Israel left Egypt and got to the Nile river: Exodus 14, Quran 26:63

                              Think HV electrical, From Biblical Exodus 14:

                              And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night.

                              And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the children of Israel went into the middle of the sea on the dry ground: and the waters were a wall to them on their right hand, and on their left. And the Egyptians pursued, and went in after them to the middle of the sea, even all Pharaoh's horses, his chariots, and his horsemen. And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked to the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians....."

                              wind, pilar of fire, cloud, noise, light...
                              THIS MIGHT - AS IN MAY BE - just one possible answer, it is still a miracle
                              but it could also show how natural forces could be used.
                              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                              • Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                                'Electrons are already there, lined up..'
                                Aim; determine if electrostatic field is a property of a vacuum, thus determining if another medium is present.
                                electrostatic field is the property of the stressfield in air i dont think you can get it in the vacuum.
                                If you use it in a vacuum I dont now

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