Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Aromaz]

Relatively speaking - cause that's still 3 weeks rent for me. I like how tenaciously you follow your ideas Aromaz; I'll be keeping watch of your progress :-)

the purpose is not 'how cheap it is for me' but how much in effort, time
and money such gas collection would have costed Tesla in his time.
I think that would probably be enough to pay your rent for a few years - then!

[sucahyo]

This morning I picked up the phone and ordered a cylinder of Liqued Nitrogen,
one of Helium, one of Hydrogen, two of Oxygen and one of Fluorine - in Thailand.

Wow, are you attempting to replicate Tesla superconductor too ?

[Aromaz]

Wow, are you attempting to replicate Tesla superconductor too ?

Replicate is a waste of time; unless needed to study an effect.
In this case, many people did already, and their notes are public,
thus I read. verify and move on with my own.

[boguslaw]

Tesla wa sure that electrostatic field is very high frequency oscillation and he stated that he had produced even higher frequencies.
Finally we will return back to our well known electrostatic charges created by rubbing plastic. I'm serious, we only don't know how to tap that usable power.

[sucahyo]

Replicate is a waste of time; unless needed to study an effect.
In this case, many people did already, and their notes are public,
thus I read. verify and move on with my own.

Agree, we should read more or else we just replicating what other already confirm.

[Rectified]

I am afraid our findings are the same.
BUT - it must be possible.
As with all the rest of this dream, we will have to get thingking out of the box.

It is like waking up in the middle of a sand desert at 12PM and not know which way to go for water.

Danger High Stress Area Ahead!!!!

Aromaz

I have no doubt you are getting very close. The problem is with controlling such high levels of energy once the door has been opened. This has been my biggest nightmare. With so much evil around us how does one prevent some from using it to their advantage? Years ago I stumbled on just how easy it is to disturb the controlling forces our creator has put in place to sustain live on earth as we know it today. There are so many little things mankind has already unknowingly done to our planet, and there are others who knew, yet didn’t care. We take for granted the fact all things have a purpose as we keep destroying the ionosphere or polluting the oceans and ground below us, many don’t care until it has an effect on them. Other nightmares I have, deal with how careless many are with throwing things together, refusing to follow advice when given. I watch so many just wanting to play and not learn. How many have you seen spend months building the Bedini circuits and when someone comes along with something such as the Joule Thief, change gears and start all over again for months on end. Same basic lesson yet unable to see there is no difference. We try to point them to the information to help them learn yet they still don’t want to study to better understand what they do. I have learned the hard way how dangerous high energy devices can be. Have you ever seen a TV screen light up 15 ft. away to full brightness without being turned on and continue to glow for several minutes well after the main breakers blew? I’ve learned plasma and other forms of energy well beyond the visible light spectrum, must be respected and studied before I continued on. I’ve been hospitalize and came close to losing my eyesight from what was not visible or thought possible. I now deal with my ears ringing none stop and have for many years ever since. Never heard a bang just felt a vibration and a thump. I have learned the hard way how to take this research very serious many years ago.
Something cheap and simple as the insides tube of a mercury vapor light can easily be made to create a plasma, yet blind you if not careful. The best disinfectant to purify water and sanitize fruits and vegetables and countless other beneficial uses from the ozone it will create. But if not careful can destroy lung tissue as well as other materials.
Very few will study and learn first before building many things others and I would like to share yet find it difficult when so many show they rather not spend the time to study and learn from our mistakes. I believe our creator knows who he can entrust with certain knowledge and when. You and I know there is so much information and guidance in the scriptures to find the answers we all seek, yet so few willing to follow in the steps given to please the creator first.

God bless and good luck as you progress.

Rectified

P.S. Please be careful, Radiation will be an issue to monitor closely as you proceed.

[Aromaz]

I am probably crazy - hope so. But....

Danger High Stress Area Ahead!!!! ..... Very few will study and learn first before building ............

We are on the same wavelength. I have left many clues in many of my postings here; yet I find nobody react on that. Thus, you are right and I do realize that:
I am walking lonely road here. For that reason alone, I have not posted any of my experiments done in past two months.

I have done some strange things here; with resulting strange results and I intend to do many more. For that reason I got a selection of gasses today; but I am also scared! My hands are itching, my mind is boiling - but my common sense keeps me waiting and thinking!

I am working on a video, mostly clips and ideas, which I will release and that will be all. Anybody can find the guidelines from this video, but he will have to reach his own conclusions and do his own experiments – or at least talk to me and show some understanding AND insight.

One thing that I realize is that I will have to move my lab out and away from here; got to go the farm and have some safety space around the place; even though I only intend to do small scale experiments.

As for myself personally, if it is my time, then I would rather like it to be something else than the current suffocation awaiting me with bronchial cancer. On the other hand, I do not think we need to be concerned with the Earth too much either; it is due for destruction; soon. The 2012 phenomenon is much more than just Mayan; and throughout the world there are many things today that are just not right – and NOT due to human doings.

Conspiracy; YES I do now believe there is a major conspiracy going on amongst some people in the Western world. Not only is this to hide information, it is way out more serious than that. Some people have much more information than what is commonly known, both in technology, inventions – and astrology (As in physical Universe). The earth is tumbling down an orbit to a major disaster; few people will survive – same as Noah in the ark. Actually surprisingly few people knows and understand what is happening here - today!

These so called UFO’s of USA, sightings in Australia, Spain, UK, Russia are not about secret high tech weapons, those big machines are the crafts in which some selected few will survive the coming electrical fires. 2012? 2015? 2021? I do not know, but I do know this they are getting more and more active every day all over the world. Not only are they Ultra Secret government vessels, but they are also an increasing number of Alien Crafts!

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[Inquorate]

Outside the box

Devils advocate time - in a playful way...

Thinking outside the box is well and good, but thinking outside the box while neglecting to LOOK outside the box may be considered folly..

I found this link while researching to see if other people have done experiments regarding electrostatic fields and wether it is a property of a vacuum.

Ps, @ bodkins, @ Aromaz - too many assumptions, apparently you are wrong. At least bearden thinks so. It's on this link, along with enough info to nudge this thread into a broader study than just frequency.

The Tom Bearden Website

Much love,
Ben

[Aromaz]

Devils advocate time - in a playful way...

I appreciate and as always am happy. I am looking AND thinking; both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the box. Can prove it with my know and understand of conventional electrics - and have read much of Tom Bearden.

With all due respect - and I do have plenty for TB; but one question:
What did Tom Bearden ever do to prove any of his theories? As TB says "......seems to be the missing principle that is involved in all of them."

There is one thing that all are missing; The universe is electrical. It is just so simple and I think that is why people fail to realize it, they are looking for the more complicated.

It only needs you to look with your unconditioned mind and open eyes. Point for point, photo after photo - there are so many appearances and pehnomenon in the universe "not understood' or have extreme complicated theories. Yet, give the same picture to an electrician or metal worker and he might tell you that he has already seen it - in the process of working/melting/cutting/welding of steel - or electrical shorts!

The universe is working on, in, around and with electricity! Full stop and this I will - and can - argue now with anybody with any other theory.

Electricity=Magnetic
Magnetism=Electricity
Electricity and Magnetism is ElectroMagnetism
ElectroMagnetism=light and sound
ElectroMagnetism=movement
EM=Electrons
Electrons=Universe

Be it called by whatever word, electrons, ions, aether, muons, gluons, dancers, whatever - it all comes back to Electrons;
which by the way science does not yet uinderstand! Is it a wave or is it a particle or is it a particle-wave?

[Inquorate]

you say potato, I say potato

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet --&-{@

Aether vortex = electron + movement in time = magnetic field

// I'm on the same page, just using different words :-)

Ps, humor me, read this page. Electrostatic force between two conductors ( capacitance ) is more efficient at transmission of joules per volt, in a vacuum!

Capacitors

so, 'besides the air, another medium is present' - tesla

And that medium is stressed by voltage (or vice versa?) Which in turn can create or remove charge in a conductor, although no charge exists in transit.

Sound familiar?

[Aromaz]

Oh, love of my mind, woman of my dreams!

P.S.
Only by means of oscillations can we have some control over electrons (or aether) and their effects. Check your reference to Tom Bearden above again:

"Inventor and researcher Scott McKie has filed a patent application on an energy system using just such an energy reverberation and iterative energy interception and collection. In addition, it uses the novel fact that by potential alone one can alter (rotate) the inertial frame of a component."

"Again we caution the reader that all this is theory until independent certified tests verify it."

I have my experiments and findings from the past two months, which are not published - yet, and maybe never will be. But I will tell you this in fact: There is much more to be understood from Electrons that most people - including highly regarded scientists - know. How did I come to this and how did I do these experiments? From observations in old, very old, antique and pre-historic writings!

My only advice:
"And go yee forth, play with electrons until you stand in awe"

ELECTRONS - not electricity or electronics - ELECTRONS !

A good point for starting: Look at the periodic table, see which minerals will easily loose their electrons, which is holding them more tightly. Which minerals has magnetic flux properties?

Look at the energy required, the ones that looses electrons easiest are all under Hydrogen with Sodium, Cesmium and Potasium the most easilly available.

Barium is another easy to get mineral.
Ever wondered why Bedini always insisted on people using Barium Ferrite magnets? Why did both Floyd Sweet and E.V.Gray use Barium magnets. What was the minerals in Tesla's magnets?

Barium only needs 5.21 eV to loose an ion! Cesmium is the second option; Cesmium only needs 3.89 eV - in fact; the least of all minerals (I think).
In comparison, Copper needs 7.72 eV.

Here is a good link:
Periodic Table of the Elements

Ahh, I am falling in love with what modern day science is calling Electrons

[Aromaz]

......Sound familiar?

YES! Sounds like - Electrons!

[Aromaz]

Interesting video

YouTube - UFO exiting a wormhole??
I also saw two others of the same occurance, one with german speaking man. Both from different view points.

[Vortex]

Here is with better camera angle, from top:
YouTube - High voltage can move water #2 vertical shot
ether fish? or just worm adapting it self?

About time reversal effect, isn't things happen because we plan it to happen?

@sucahyo and all,
I don't wish to rain on the party here.
What has been observed is important, but this observation is incomplete
and requires additional evaluation to conclude water is being "moved".

A dye (or something) must be used to rule out that the effect observed,
vortex movement of "stuff" floating upon the water, was not just pushing the "stuff" around.
Meaning it was not moving the water, which moved the "stuff".
Static electricity, for example, can "move" things ..
Is the effect observed moving the "Stuff" upon the water or the water?

Every little piece of the puzzle, information / observation, is important.

Another question would be: "Was the vortex movement observed due to the shape
of the cup or influenced only by the HV alone?
One can blow air upon the water in a cup and observe a vortex movement due to the cup is round.
A larger container where the movement observed is not pushing against
the side of the container would answer the vortexing question?

Just
Randy

[Aromaz]

Egyptian Hub

In reference to my posting #501 on page #17 here:

Egyptian Artifact; Tomb of Prince Sabu 3,000 BC.
For some references see the following websites:
http://www.geocities.com/unforbidden...Tomb_3111.html
The Mysterious Egyptian Tri-Lobed Disc ....Page 52

For some strange reason, and as I stated before in Energetic Forum; this ‘thing; is disturbing my peace and cause sleep to fail me. Today I found the following from the original discoverer of the tomb, Brian Walter Emery.

Years later, in his previously mentioned work, Archaic Egypt, he commented on the object with a word that perfectly summarizes the reality of the situation and the discomfort the object causes; "cachibache" (a small hole that threatens to become a much larger hole)"...

Today I came to a realization, or maybe it is just a thought from combined ancient descriptions on which I am not going to expand now. Basically the Egyptians were a later civilization than the Sumerians, but much of the Egyptian era does actually stem from the Sumerian times a good thousand years earlier. The Sumerians believed in the Anannuki who are beings that came from another planet, today referred to as Nibiru. All these ancient ‘mythology’ does reflect in the Egyptian, Indian and later Babylonian cultures. The Anannukli had flying machines and could make Thunderbolts. (See Thunderbolts of the Gods)

Now, jumping 4,500 years later – we find another series of very strange phenomena which very few people realized. There are literally hundreds of antique paintings in both the western and Asian world that does in fact show those things we call today UFO’s; more interesting, they are in the form of the typical flying saucer.

Jump another 500 years and we are today where I was sitting in my lab working with my video cam. My cam is mounted on a tri-pod - three legs can balance on any surface. Nothing new to that, but for the strange euphoria that I was completely lost to myself for a while. Crazy? I came to think of that Egyptian disk with its three ‘bowls’ and center ‘hole’. Tri-pod. UFO. Tri-engine.

How will a craft perform if it has THREE engines, engines that are working on the principle of ions? And I KNOW this is it. This is what will allow me to sleep again.

Let us assume we have a flying saucer with three ‘drives’. The engines are based on ions – electrons which are manipulated to propel the craft and to cause a levitation effect. Let us assume my craft is facing North. Drive # 1 is also facing directly forward – North. Drive #2 is facing port-aft 120 degrees and Drive #3 is facing starboard-aft 120 degrees.

Now in order for me to move north, I am sucking air into Drive #1, strip and manipulate electrons and expel them equal through Drive #2 and #3. Should I wish to turn slightly to the right, I send more electrons out #2 and less out #3, to turn left I send more out #3 and less to #2. Hoover is all three equal.
To move South – I can use both Drive #2 and #3 as intakes and force the electrons out #1. This way my craft will turn quick and fast – if fact it does NOT turn, it just moves the required direction. AND MY CRAFT IS ALWAYS BALANCED. To go up, air is taken in from top of all three engines and ions directed downwards.

By controlling my direction of intake and outlets, with volume in balancing on all three drives, the craft can move in any direction.

The effect of the ions at extreme frequency will counter gravity force (mistakenly called antigravity)and occupants will not be exposed to G-force as in normal craft.

So where does this three-lobed-vase-from-Egypt come into the equation? It is the PERFECT hub for controlling the flow of air/ions to the three drives! By rotating this disk you re-direct and control all flow of matter. No acceleration or deceleration of the engines – thus – no need to change frequency on ion production!

It is a model of the perfect hub for the flying disk.