Aromaz Radiant Energy Joint Research Group

[Aromaz]

To sum it up

Now we know how to generate free electrons.
- Using electrical energy on magnetic minerals like Sodium, Barium. Etc.

We also know how to super charge and accelerate them.
- by using electromagnets in a vortex tube.

We know how to increase the frequency of the electron oscillations.
- by using gaseous material and charge them as required

We know hot to direct flow of ions to create counter gravity and motion.
- by the three lobed hub and drives

What do we still need to know?
1. Working of the drives that can in fact direct the ions – which will
Normally just pass through any mineral!
2. More exact mathematical calculations to determine the whole system.

And more brains, I am getting out of my league – or crazy.
Need to go and see a psychiatrist!

Talking of “Free energy” it is all there – as described above, plenty.

[Vortex]

We are so stupid, locked in our simple grooves, boxed away in a closet.

People, do you realize that we today can replicate any of Nikola Tesla's experiments
at a fraction of the cost it was to him? AND we can do so much more.

A simple instrument to measure Volts and another to measure Amps in the days of Tesla
probably cost him an arm and half a leg. For us - it is even cheaper and a resonable meal!

WHY oh Why are we so stupid?

This morning I picked up the phone and ordered a cylinder of Liqued Nitrogen,
one of Helium, one of Hydrogen, two of Oxygen and one of Fluorine - in Thailand.
It is arriving this afternoon. All together it is costing me less than US$ 620!
Just imagine how difficult this would have been to Tesla and co 110 years ago!

Please be careful.

ref link
Elemental fluorine is the most chemically reactive and electronegative of all the elements.
Fluorine will readily "burn" hydrocarbons at room temperature, in contrast to the combustion of hydrocarbons by oxygen, which requires an input of energy with a spark.Therefore, molecular fluorine is highly dangerous, more so than other halogens such as the poisonous chlorine gas
...
Elemental fluorine (fluorine gas) is a highly toxic, corrosive oxidant, which can cause organic material, combustibles, or other flammable materials to ignite.

This stuff is totally unforgiving. Danger levels do not get any higher than this.
Even any compounds of this stuff are extremely dangerous also.
I strongly suggest you not use it.


Randy

[boguslaw]

Compare: Alfred M. Hubbard: Coil Generator

and Mckie Podmod - KeelyNet - 06/02/94

Is this the same town, Seattle ?

[Aromaz]

Please be careful.
This stuff is totally unforgiving. Danger levels do not get any higher than this.
Even any compounds of this stuff are extremely dangerous also.
I strongly suggest you not use it.

Randy

thanks for the care and warning.

Do not be concerned, I have worked with all of these in the chemical plants where we processed the platinum group of metals. Fluorine, phosphor, manganese and every kind of acid you can imagine. The Platinum group metals are the most corrosion resistant and we needed to process them to liquid form in order to separate all the minerals. Guess why I have two cylinders of liquid Nitrogen - amongst other reasons.

Guess all the experiences of my life lead up and contribute to what I am now doing, trying to do and theorize.

[Aromaz]

Compare: Alfred M. Hubbard: Coil Generator
and Mckie Podmod - KeelyNet - 06/02/94
Is this the same town, Seattle ?

Frankly, this is a waste of time, but because it is my tea time, I will reply on this as form of relaxing!

Off course Hubbarts model worked. He used Radium which is nuclear active metal, though it decays in relative short period. In South Africa we extract it from the waste material after Uranium 235 is removed. Initially it is a nice brilliant metal, almost like chrome, but when exposed to normal air it goes black in few short hours. Radium emits both Neutrons and electrons, causing radiation of large spectrum of EM rays. In particular the natural Radium mineral produces UV, X-Ray and Gamma ray. Thus, if you use a core of Radium wound with copper - yes, you will have plenty of power; and you will also get very sick very soon.

As for Keely and Scott McKie; the secret of their whole invention lies in the following sentence: "McKie has so little doubt his invention will work he is already making plans to manufacture boxcar-sized versions of it -- power on demand modules, or POD Mods, he calls them --in Ephrata, Grant County. He has signed an agreement with a California investor for $10 million in start-up financing."

There is no conspiracy involved; Patent #5,146,395 Applied for in Aug 1991 and issued in Sept 1992 - expired in 1998 because of failure to pay renewal fee. Full diagrams are available - on line; you can copy and play as much as you like. In fact the patent is for a battery operated power supply through dual TC! And for the electric car "Scott says he may drive his electric car to Washington D. C. in December to get more attention for his electric BATTERY DRIVEN car" 1993!
What happened?

More about patents:
See my posting here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-switch-2.html Post #41 regarding Patents.

More about Coil power:
As for OverUnity: I guess this was in fact what many people in the early and mid 1900's used as core in their coils to generate 'mystical' power. Look carefull at the histories of both coil supply of energy and life/health of those inventors. Nothing mystical or strange; just pure Radium core (or few other possible minerals or alloys of them) and copper wound coil. So infact, when I read about all these coil this and coil that and coil this angle and coil ...coil ...... around OU.Com, at first I feel like but then I feel pitty and sorrow for the poor man who failed to open his eyes and learn something first.

Remember until the 1940's Radium was quite freely available in the USA and until 1970's it was very freely available in the rest of world. In fact, this was one of the things used in the old days (my young days) to make glowing watch arms, dials on radios, etc. Radium powder was mixed in with plastic to make glowing light switch buttons. Only since the early 1980's Radium are less freely available, but you can still get it almost anywhere, after you complete a lectrue on dangers of radiation. Paint a few lines of radium powder on a container and you will make the US Customs go ape**** when they come near with a greiger couter!

Bottom line: Yes, copper wound coils with Radium core will give you plenty of power - but at a cost. When the radiation gets a bit low on gamma rays, just give a quick kick with some EM and you are set for a few more months. Certainly will be 100% overunity! Next time you read about these wonder coils, check on the core!

[sucahyo]

A dye (or something) must be used to rule out that the effect observed, vortex movement of "stuff" floating upon the water, was not just pushing the "stuff" around.
Meaning it was not moving the water, which moved the "stuff".
Static electricity, for example, can "move" things ..
Is the effect observed moving the "Stuff" upon the water or the water?

It is the water that move. Unless maybe because the water that I use is not very pure. It is water from a dispenser.

What should I use for dye?

I have an electrolysis water that filled with floating copper oxide because of my mistakes of using positive polarity on copper electrode. When I point the HV cable to the surface of water, the copper oxide got propelled down.

I don't think the bowl shape would make any different. I use non metalic bottle cap. It is at the size of foot thumb.

I think it is not a vortex movement. Water surface move according to where the cable point. I post second video to clarify that. I am sure if I use very big bowl, the water will move to where the cable point, not in vortex. Although vortex do appear if I keep it steady, it will be on it's left and on it's right at the same time.

YouTube - High voltage can move water #2 vertical shot

It will also move a thin paper. Maybe I will make more video of this.

@Aromaz, about clue you post in this thread, I guess I have to keep learning before I can figure it out. Very interesting info on Radium.

About the world near massive disaster, I guess for the next coming years there would be many people in Indonesia will order "personal anti bomb protection" if it's true......

About UFO, are there any picture that show black hole in the propeller?

[Aromaz]

@Aromaz, about clue you post in this thread, I guess I have to keep learning before I can figure it out. Very interesting info on Radium.

Well, it is hard work, hard learning and long hours. But worth it.

About the world near massive disaster, I guess for the next coming years there would be many people in Indonesia will order "personal anti bomb protection" if it's true......

Will be of no use. The destruction will be of electrical nature - similar to a massive inter-stellar plasma ray from center of our galaxy. How can I say this? Because ALL prophesies describing the same effect, results etc. - all corresponding to electrical phenomenon; fire, force, wind, explosion, brilliant light..... Our atmosphere is filled with ...... CARBON; higher level than ever before and what does carbon do with plasma?

About UFO, are there any picture that show black hole in the propeller?

No, but there are some video's from space shuttle expeditions, taken in UV and IR spectrum that shows energy flows, and when slowed down, they clearly show spiral and pulsing energy. VERY interesting.

More interesting is that this same descriptions does in FACT exist for millenia; as seen on more than 300 paintings world wide in Europe, Asia and Middle East - with saucer shaped UFO's - some 1,700 years old! Yes, even Muslim scholars from 1200 years ago write and draw them!

Very interesting, indeed - interesting

[Aromaz]

Tesla Tube

Does anyone have a good idea of the "Open ended vacuum tube" to which Tesla was referring since 1934? And I do not need copies from all the usual PD reference. I would like to know if there is any reasonable understandable drawing that shows this concept.

If not from Tesla, then John Huthinson made such a device which is now on display in the Hiroshima City museum. Any idea on that design, concept or drawings - or how exactly this "open ended vacuum tube" is suppose to work?

In particular, I am interested in the acceleration method and how the molecular matter was conceived.

[boguslaw]

Frankly, this is a waste of time, but because it is my tea time, I will reply on this as form of relaxing!

Off course Hubbarts model worked. He used Radium which is nuclear active metal, though it decays in relative short period. In South Africa we extract it from the waste material after Uranium 235 is removed. Initially it is a nice brilliant metal, almost like chrome, but when exposed to normal air it goes black in few short hours. Radium emits both Neutrons and electrons, causing radiation of large spectrum of EM rays. In particular the natural Radium mineral produces UV, X-Ray and Gamma ray. Thus, if you use a core of Radium wound with copper - yes, you will have plenty of power; and you will also get very sick very soon.

As for Keely and Scott McKie; the secret of their whole invention lies in the following sentence: "McKie has so little doubt his invention will work he is already making plans to manufacture boxcar-sized versions of it -- power on demand modules, or POD Mods, he calls them --in Ephrata, Grant County. He has signed an agreement with a California investor for $10 million in start-up financing."

There is no conspiracy involved; Patent #5,146,395 Applied for in Aug 1991 and issued in Sept 1992 - expired in 1998 because of failure to pay renewal fee. Full diagrams are available - on line; you can copy and play as much as you like. In fact the patent is for a battery operated power supply through dual TC! And for the electric car "Scott says he may drive his electric car to Washington D. C. in December to get more attention for his electric BATTERY DRIVEN car" 1993!
What happened?

More about patents:
See my posting here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-switch-2.html Post #41 regarding Patents.

More about Coil power:
As for OverUnity: I guess this was in fact what many people in the early and mid 1900's used as core in their coils to generate 'mystical' power. Look carefull at the histories of both coil supply of energy and life/health of those inventors. Nothing mystical or strange; just pure Radium core (or few other possible minerals or alloys of them) and copper wound coil. So infact, when I read about all these coil this and coil that and coil this angle and coil ...coil ...... around OU.Com, at first I feel like but then I feel pitty and sorrow for the poor man who failed to open his eyes and learn something first.

Remember until the 1940's Radium was quite freely available in the USA and until 1970's it was very freely available in the rest of world. In fact, this was one of the things used in the old days (my young days) to make glowing watch arms, dials on radios, etc. Radium powder was mixed in with plastic to make glowing light switch buttons. Only since the early 1980's Radium are less freely available, but you can still get it almost anywhere, after you complete a lectrue on dangers of radiation. Paint a few lines of radium powder on a container and you will make the US Customs go ape**** when they come near with a greiger couter!

Bottom line: Yes, copper wound coils with Radium core will give you plenty of power - but at a cost. When the radiation gets a bit low on gamma rays, just give a quick kick with some EM and you are set for a few more months. Certainly will be 100% overunity! Next time you read about these wonder coils, check on the core!

I think you are wrong about radium. First Hubbard device didn't contained radium surely.It was too costly. I think radium was use to prime coils with small power signal (electrons dislodged from copper by radiation) to eliminate signal generator required for continuous operation of device.

In other way it would be too simple - just get a coil with radium soaked core and connect to TV

I saw other device powered by radioactive material.
Directory:Resonant Nuclear Reactor - PESWiki
This one is really powered by radioactive salt, but surprise - there is a tank circuit here - transformer with two capacitors on each side in CLOSED circuit. Energy is circulating around and each time it rises.
I believe the same could be done without using radioactive waste material. Like in TPU - inductive spikes are accumulating and rising output power.

Have you ever thought what would happen if you send so called back EMF from one transformer back into second transformer and so on ?

Lester Hendershot did exactly that. He had a chain of transformers each having ration 5:1 or 1:5 connected in reverse, then two special transformers having custom build HV caps on secondary. Current was flowing in circle : stepping up , then stepping down, then stepping up and so on, but the main factor was accumulation of inductive spikes. It was self-sustaining circuit.

Ooops, seem that I started a long elaborate...

[sucahyo]

Will be of no use. The destruction will be of electrical nature - similar to a massive inter-stellar plasma ray from center of our galaxy.

I think some of the powerfull one will migrate to aether world instead (that is if you believe human can live in it, I am partial on this).

No, but there are some video's from space shuttle expeditions, taken in UV and IR spectrum that shows energy flows, and when slowed down, they clearly show spiral and pulsing energy. VERY interesting.

Yes, very intersting. Have they take UV and IR spectrum of similar behaviour on earth?

[sucahyo]

Lester Hendershot did exactly that. He had a chain of transformers each having ration 5:1 or 1:5 connected in reverse, then two special transformers having custom build HV caps on secondary. Current was flowing in circle : stepping up , then stepping down, then stepping up and so on, but the main factor was accumulation of inductive spikes. It was self-sustaining circuit.

Which part of them being utilize for load? primary?

[Aromaz]

Hubbard Energy Transformer - Facts

I think you are wrong about radium. First Hubbard device didn't contained radium surely.It was too costly. I think radium was use to prime coils with small power signal (electrons dislodged from copper by radiation) to eliminate signal generator required for continuous operation of device.

In other way it would be too simple - just get a coil with radium soaked core and connect to TV rofl:

Wake up and open your eyes
"Failure to do proper research is a complete utter failure of information, the foundation of disaster and destruction of life"
CCL 1979 (That was me when I was 23 years old!)

Seattle Post Intelligencer (February 26, 1928)
Hubbard Believes Mystery Motor Based On His Own Invention
Ex-Dry Agent says he worked out secret of utilizing radium power in 1919
"In 1919 Hubbard represented the apparatus as being capable of extracting electrical energy directly from the air, but he admitted yesterday that this had been merely a subterfuge to protect his patent rights, and that, as a matter of fact, it had been a device for extracting electrical energy from radium, by means of a series of transformers which stepped up the rays. "

R&D Notes on the Hubbard Coil by George Van Tassel
College of Universal Wisdom (Yucca Flats, CA) 1952
"Hubbard's generator was a central coil wound on a tube, with eight coils around it, wound on iron cores. Here is real power without smog, or fumes and at no cost to operate. This explains why the "authorities" stepped in and stopped the experiments as in other cases through the years. "

Why would authorities stop experiments? Because of RADIOACTIVE RADIUM.
There was no conspiracy here, just safety issues.

The Hubbard Energy Transformer
by Gaston Burridge.
Fate Magazine, July, 1956, pp. 36-42
The mysterious device was said to radioactive rays into electricity - and run big motors.

Recently I spent an evening with a scientist close to atomic energy developments, and to be perfectly frank I guided the conversation to the subject of changing radioactive ways directly into useable electrical energy. I was told it has not been done. That atomic scientists have tried every thing they can think of to accomplish this neat little trick, but so far have failed. Many an atomic researcher has believed such an arrangement possible, but the right combination has not been found.

I mentioned that I had heard of a young man named Albert Hubbard who in 1919 was credited with having accomplished something approaching this.

.....Alfred M. Hubbard is still alive. He is a man in his late 50's.He does not live in this country anymore.

There are rumours that there are several other devices similar to Hubbard's.
Rumour says that devices reached a most interesting point of development and the "Authorities" stepped in and stopped the experiments and in some cases confiscated the apparatus. This under the guise of "improper and dangerous use of atomic energy ". Dangerous to whom?

........Soon after the demonstration, Hubbard's name dropped from the Seattle paper and he went to work for the Radium Chemical Company of Pittsburgh -- now of New York.

But on Monday, February 27, 1928 Hubbard and his transformer again made Seattle's Post Intelligencer headline. This time in connection with the "Fuelless Motor" designed and built by Lester J. Hendershot, then of Selfridge Field Detriot.

In an interview with R.B. Berman at this time, Hubbard revealed for the first time that his transformer was powered with radioactive substances.

Hubbard admitted he had used the idea of power from the air to protect his real idea for patent and that this machine created electrical energy directly from rays of force or particles emitted from radioactive materials.

He did not name the materials. They remain a secret today. According to Hubbard's statement in the newspaper he sold a 50% interest in his device to the Radium Chemical Company and went to Pittsburgh to continue developing the device for them.


What happened to this genius?

Who Was Alfred M. Hubbard?
by Todd Fahey (1984)

"A 1968 resume states that Hubbard was at various times employed by the Canadian Special Services, the US Justice Department and, ironically, what is now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Whether he was part of the CIA mind-control project known as MK-ULTRA, might never be known: all paperwork generated in connection with that diabolical experiment was destroyed in '73 by MK-ULTRA chief Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, on orders from then-CIA Director Richard Helms, citing a "paper crisis."

......But Hubbard's secret connections did allow him to expose over 6,000 people to LSD before it was effectively banned in '66. He shared the sacrament with a prominent Monsignor of the Catholic Church in North America, explored the roots of alcoholism with AA founder Bill Wilson, and stormed the pearly gates with Aldus Huxley (in a session that resulted in the psychedelic tome Heaven and Hell).

Hubbard abandoned his uranium empire and, for the next decade, traveled the globe as a psychedelic missionary. "Al's dream was to open up a worldwide chain of clinics as training grounds for other LSD researchers," says Stolaroff. His first pilgrimage was to Switzerland, home of Sandoz Laboratories, producers of both Delysid (trade name for LSD) and psilocybin. He procured a gram of LSD (roughly 10,000 doses) and set up shop in a safe-deposit vault in the Zurich airport's duty-free section. From there he was able to ship quantities of his booty without a tariff to a waiting world.

Procuring a Ph.D. in biopsychology from a less-than-esteemed academic outlet called Taylor University, the captain became Dr. Alfred M. Hubbard, clinical therapist. In '57, he met Ross MacLean, medical superintendent of the Hollywood Hospital in New Westminster, Canada. MacLean was so impressed with Hubbard's knowledge of the human condition that he devoted an entire wing of the hospital to the study of psychedelic therapy for chronic alcoholics.

In March of 1966, the cold winds of Congress blew out all hope for Al Hubbard's enlightened Mother Earth. Facing a storm of protest brought on by Leary's reckless antics and the "LSD-related suicide" of Diane Linkletter, President Lyndon Johnson signed into law the Drug Abuse Control Amendment, which declared lysergic acid diethylamide a Schedule I substance; simple possession was deemed a felony, punishable by 15 years in prison. According to Humphry Osmond, Hubbard lobbied Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, who reportedly took the cause of LSD into the Senate chambers, and emerged un-victorious.

On August 31, 1982, at the age of 81, Al Hubbard died, having ridden the dream like a rodeo cowboy. On very quiet nights, with the right kind of ears, you can hear him giving God hell.

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My dear friend, when I make a statement here, each, every and always; unless stated that it is pure theory or hypothesis - you can take it for granted that I DID research and that I DID find at least three different, non associated sources to verify - BEFORE I make such statement here or anywhere else. I do not need to impress anyone, nor do I need to get limelight from anything. I am serious in research and objectives. You can 'Take my statement to the bank' - - Well, now the banks are bankrupt, so will not help you much.

FACT 2: The Hubbard Transformer was one of the few devices that were in fact OVERUNITY. Guaranteed, effective and working. And just so easy as to make a radium pipe, use that as core and wind copper around it in at least three separate layers with air space between them - then lash a few coils together and - Magic. Seal it all off in a container with lead or gold insulation and preferable also fill with liquid nitrogen or argon.

FACT 3: After this invention, there were a number of Radium related devices.

FACT 4: Oh, by the way of parture: Did you ever wonder how Tesla did reach some of his powerful coil actions? Why was Tesla quite obsessed with Radium? Did you know that he was using a LOT of radium in his experiments, especially between 1912 and 1925?

[Aromaz]

I think some of the powerfull one will migrate to aether world instead (that is if you believe human can live in it, I am partial on this).

Yes, very intersting. Have they take UV and IR spectrum of similar behaviour on earth?

Both IR and UV cameras are very in-effective within the earth atmosphere.
Can only use over very short range of few meters.

[Aromaz]

ILester Hendershot did exactly that....

Lester Hendershot, he worked on this device for over 30 years 1928-1960.
Ever, it was only he alone that could 'activate' it. Even his son later could
not activate the same that was build by his father.

Based on this, I would say there is no possibility for anone else to devellop this invention. Two applications and no patent was granted either.

[boguslaw]

"Radium was discovered in 1898 by Marie and Pierre Curie in pitchblende (or uraninite) from North Bohemia. The element was isolated in 1911 by Mme. Curie and Debierne by the electrolysis of a solution of pure radium chloride, employing a mercury cathode. On distillation in an atmosphere of hydrogen this amalgam yielded the pure metal."

In 1919 any even tiny amount of radium was priceless. Hubbard was poor young man.

I think,no - I'm SURE that it's all about output current meet input one in proper time and condition inside close path circuit... but I will rather stop those persuasings now because I can't show any working model.Apparently all details was carefully deleted about Hubbard device. My guess is that it was too simple to build, and somebody was worried about possible replications.

There are two related devices available now and inventors are living today. It's TPU and Joseph Cater coil.