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  • Originally posted by darkwizard View Post
    Aromaz, i have read the bible, and i always believe that Ezekiel was saying that the ET had a device with free energy because he says that the spirit was moving the wheel and we know what the spirit is.

    In my spanish bible says: It looks like the amber , or like the "ELECTRO STONE" , :P

    Electrostatic Generators and Apparatus


    Who called it ELEKTRON? The greek word for amber is Elektron.
    Amazing when you read the same old scriptures with a new open mind how
    many of those descriptions suddenly makes pure common sense!

    You are quite right. Thank you for a bloody nose!
    I did forget the greek word Elektron=Amber.
    Stupid of me because I am a gemologist!

    Although chrysolite is better known as Olivine or Peridot which is a lime greenish
    colour, there is also amber colour. The interesting thing is that in natural
    crystal form; before lapidary - the chrysolite has more glitter and shine than
    any diamond.

    I wonder - Chrysolite also as Green-Fire ???? Now where did I see something like that?

    About.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd6NntwUFVE
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • It doesn't matter to me how you name it, as long as your are not spitting something from behind its fine by me. Another question is on the radium. If this is the "fuel" then it will last depending on the half life? Then I would also assume the power of this apparatus will decay according so? I'm still amazed at how you could achieve these feats with mere radioactivity.

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      • A note of interest:
        Our cyclone chamber was made of 316 stainless steel tubes, 1.5mm thick
        which is non-magnetic. Overnight the outer wall perished, looks like
        corrosion and probably due to friction from the inside, metallic dust at
        extreme speed should have a grinding effect. Not a disaster, we were
        expecting this to happen but was hoping the metal would last at least a few
        years - not 12 days.
        Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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        • Originally posted by broli View Post
          It doesn't matter to me how you name it, as long as your are not spitting something from behind its fine by me. Another question is on the radium. If this is the "fuel" then it will last depending on the half life? Then I would also assume the power of this apparatus will decay according so? I'm still amazed at how you could achieve these feats with mere radioactivity.
          We are not using Radium, though I think it would be the absolute optimum,
          and also much easier in a solid state system. We had to substitute with
          other minerals and change their isotopes.

          Yes, the power output will decay, our initial estimate is around 12 years half life;

          Our system is not solid-state, it is something we will have to pursue more
          seriously since this mornings failure. The current system is working on the
          basis of a pulsing gas tube at 120 KHz.
          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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          • So I just finished reading back from your eureka moment. There's one very prominent conclusion you seem to have made. That is that radium is the answer to everything. Now this may or may not be the case but how is this open minded? Sure your research has been convincing to you but isn't this the case of "finding what you intend to find"?

            I believe there's still a whole ocean of unexplored knowledge before us. There's one thing I highly agree on. Physicists and mathematicians have polluted science for a while now.

            Btw I also understand now you're using an ionic jet engine to counter gravity. Which means it's atmospherically bound?

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            • Originally posted by broli View Post
              So I just finished reading back from your eureka moment. There's one very prominent conclusion you seem to have made. That is that radium is the answer to everything. Now this may or may not be the case but how is this open minded? Sure your research has been convincing to you but isn't this the case of "finding what you intend to find"?

              I believe there's still a whole ocean of unexplored knowledge before us. There's one thing I highly agree on. Physicists and mathematicians have polluted science for a while now.

              Btw I also understand now you're using an ionic jet engine to counter gravity. Which means it's atmospherically bound?
              @broli; Radium is the best of all the minerals in the periodic table.
              It is so because since early 1900's it has been taken as such by Tesla, Moray, Adams, and many others - German, Russian, French and American.

              Why? Because it is the only mineral that you can get AS-IS from nature. It does not need to pass through a nuclear reactor first. It is U-238 been changed by COSMIC neutrons and become Radium.
              It has a half life of 1,600 years. It emits photons, electrons and some positrons - very little neutrons
              can be contained even in glass flask - thus Alpha and Beta radiant energy, and very little Gamma radioactive radiation - which is the killer.

              In fact SOME other minerals are also suitable, but most of them are waste products of nuclear reactors and the majority of this does have a half life countable in seconds or days. We already experimented with 8 of these, single or compound.

              BUT: Radium is rare and very expensive; SO I have done my home work and I did made another alloy/compound, using only electric arch to ‘activate’ (no nuclear) – one compound does have A & B radiant component – and very important – last longer than a day! Unfortunately it has a half life of expected/projected 12 years or less.

              Thus my friend, my open minded ability is NOT to use Radium because I did find other possible material.

              No - it is not a 'jet engine' - it is probably ionic yes. Whatever, at the present that is not the purpose of our research' just happened to be a accidental observation. Atmospheric bound? Why? Read some nice description of "IONIC PROPULSION" and you will find this has already been trialed to success in space – because space is still full of electrons and not complete vacuum. It does not really matter weather it is ionic or not - the long term potential is that it weigh less when in operation.
              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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              • More RadioActivities

                Nathan B. Stubblefield - Earth batteries;
                an article written by one of his grand children:

                Grandpa was now once again blamed by his wife of 36 years for accidentally poisoning three of their nine children through inadvertencies. Neither, at the time of their experimenting with various mixtures of Pitchblende and salt crystals within their 85 farmland soil, knew it was contaminating Teleph-on-delgreen. From 1881 to 1906, the soil-coil RF antenna "hotspots" -- that made it possible for Grandpa Nathan Stubblefield to develop and patent the 1898 induction earth batteries and 1908 Wireless Telephone™ -- did contaminate their foodstuffs and water.

                NOTE: Pitchblende is Uranium rich ore the same stuff M Currie used to extract RADIUM.

                E. Leimer (1915)
                "Magnification of magnetic force and energy was demonstrated in the coil of a speaker phone and in the coil of a galvanometer when radiated a radio antenna-wire with radium. A 10-milligram, linear radium source produced a measured 2.6-fold increase in electrical current in the antenna-wire in comparing inaudible radio reception without radium to audible reception with radium."

                NOTE: 1915 - Year before Alfred M. Hubbard invented his fuel less generator, which he later admitted employed radium.

                Now, the serious researcher here: Google the name of a German scientist: "Helmholtz" (1847), much of his work was also translated and used by Roberto Torretti in his book "The philosophy of physics".

                Hans von Lieven gives the following translation on part of this work:
                "If a flow of force is created by a primary system that creates a flow of force in a secondary system by resonance, the output in the secondary system can be magnified by leveling a flow of force of a different character and velocity perpendicular to it. The resultant output in the secondary system is then larger than the input from both flows."

                Much of the work of Helmholtz are referred to and formed the basis of research by Keely, Stubblefield, Hubbard, Leimer, Brown and Barbat.
                Now, here comes another revelation: I was not aware that Nikola Tesla and Nathan Stubblefield did actually WORK TOGETHER on some projects.

                Hans von Lieven sums it up nicely on KEELYNET.com:
                "The interaction of the two antagonistic flows creates a beat frequency which heterodynes with a larger field of unknown character and absorbs energy from it by resonance. Keely did it with pressure waves, Brown, Stubblefield, Hubbard and Leimer used radioactivity and Barbat uses light, which he gets to interact with his secondary coil by coating the coil with cuprous oxide, turning it effectively into a solar cell."

                AND THIS WAS MY BIGGEST SHOCK / SURPRISE:
                All this time I wasted, IF I only know this patent before!
                I only found this information on line this morning, though it is not exactly
                the same as my device, there are a number of similar concepts. It might be
                useful for someone else to consider.

                Paul M. Brown US Patent 4,835,433;
                "A nuclear battery in which the energy imparted to radioactive decay products during the spontaneous disintegrations of radioactive material is utilized to sustain and amplify the oscillations in a high-Q LC tank circuit is provided. The circuit inductance comprises a coil wound on a core composed of radioactive nuclides connected in series with the primary winding of a power transformer. The core is fabricated from a mixture of three radioactive materials which decay primarily by alpha emission and provides a greater flux of radioactive decay products than the equivalent amount of a single radioactive nuclide. "

                NOTE: If you do more research you will find that Dr. Paul M. Brown was killed in a automobile accident on 7th April 2002 in Boise, Idaho. During that time he was working on more advanced energy apparatus, in particular which will safely recycle Nuclear waste material !
                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                • Strontium 90, but I would glad to find a safer method of "sustaining LC oscillations". And really if you look at all that stuff created by so many - everywhere there is LC circuit at resonance and with positive feedback

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                  • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                    An interesting observation and thought: South America, ancient people talking of flying and we all know about the ancient 'airports' in Peru.

                    See the following descriptions and in particular look at the Golden craft.

                    World Mysteries - Strange Artifacts, Ancient Flying Machines
                    Ancient Aeroplanes. Did the Incas Build Aircraft?

                    I ponder..... IF they were in fact sort of aircrafts,
                    it is possible they would not use fosil based fuel, though
                    might have been something like bio-diesel.
                    Late answer,
                    Egypt aeroplane:
                    Model Airplane?
                    Evolution of an Image


                    If this start after the King Solomon empire, it might be true. Since there is a mention that King Solomon utilize wind for a two months worth of land traveling done in one day. Considering that King Solomon also have a way to molt the metal just like his father did, it is possible that it is also metalic plane. For thrusthing force, maybe something along vibratory physics. Since it is mentioned that his father King David has ability to cure illness by his sound (flute?), somehow similar to modern cure of Royal Raymond Rife.

                    Edit:
                    or maybe something else:
                    Ancient Aircraft
                    "Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

                    @Aromaz, do you know what use of copper in King David era?
                    King Solomon's Copper Mines?
                    Last edited by sucahyo; 03-05-2009, 06:47 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by sucahyo;
                      @Aromaz, do you know what use of copper in King David era?
                      King Solomon's Copper Mines?
                      See this one:
                      UC San Diego Archaeologists Discover Largest Bronze Age Metal Factory In Middle East
                      Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                      • It seems from the age after atomic war of India vs antlatic accident (assuming the Ramayana history are real).

                        I wonder how the copper are being used in King Solomon era. How it is processed. Many would think there are no electricity in King Solomon Era. But if we think Kind David as an inventor and King Solomon was even smarter, it is possible that both already done what Tesla, John Hatchison and Keely did. Maybe they need copper to conduct electricity, creating copper sphere to catch earth potential, etc. If sound can control wind and cure illness, it is possible there is a use for something else.

                        If both using heat for processing metal, there should clue in King Solomon Coal mine or factory. Have this found yet? I just wondering why iron, copper and brass are considered important at that time. Maybe the brass needed to create resonant instrument. It would be surprising if they find copper wire, copper tube or copper ball in King Solomon factory, LOL.

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                        • @sucahyo;


                          Copper was not any mystical material. It was easy to purify and to work with. Could be heated to melting on blast furnace; and it looked nice.

                          They used it for ornaments, religious objects and weaponry. And they used copper to mix with other metals to make bronze - which was used for the same purpose. Bronze was very well taken - because it looks like gold. Lastly, in fact iron wire (Fe-58) is a much better conductor for electricity; and in those days that was more available and cheaper then copper/brass.

                          On the other side; scriptures like the Indian, Egyptian and earlier Sumerian/Assyrian are referring to what could be seen as electrical. However, I do not think this was the same kind of electricity we are using today. Rather I do suspect it to be transmitted by tubes, gas or around the outside of ‘conductors’. I plan on doing some experiments in this direction later this year. Why? Because of extreme frequency possible and above all no resistance.

                          @ALL: Would be nice if some of you will replace some of the copper winding with ferrite or even just normal iron wire. See what effects you find in conductance, speed, resistance (heat) and above all: Magnetic.
                          Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                          • I see, thanks for the direction too . Never know that iron is better magnetic to electric converter.

                            I read some of the text regarding vimana, it seems natural for you to use mercury since it mentioned many time for generating power:

                            Vimanas
                            The workings of the mercury vortex technology

                            David hatcher Childress has explained a bit further, the theory of the mercury vortex technology. I will quote it here in full:

                            '* The electromagnetic field coil, which consists of the closed circuit exchanger / condenser coil circuit containing the liquid metal mercury and / or its hot vapor, is placed with its core axis vertical to the craft.
                            Interact on KeelyNet Mail List: Re: Taming Maxwell's Demon
                            Moreover, if this iron engine with properly welded joints be filled with
                            mercury, and the fire be conducted to the upper part it develops power
                            with the roar of a lion."

                            ....Needless to say, they did not encompass the basic observation that a
                            'circular dish of mercury REVOLVES IN A CONTRARY MANNER to a naked flame
                            CIRCULATED BELOW IT, and that it GATHERS SPEED until IT EXCEEDS the
                            speed of revolution of said flame."

                            GEEZ, sounds like the Clem engine...and a few others where you achieve a
                            critical velocity and temperature, then push it beyond that, it becomes
                            self-running. A temperature differential as it says the fire must be
                            applied to the upper half of the steel container, so that would create a
                            difference from top to bottom.

                            So Ren, are you saying you think the mercury might have this Maxwell
                            Demon diode gating effect? How would that work in the mercury?
                            Interact on KeelyNet Mail List: Re: Taming Maxwell's Demon
                            What I will do, is sit down and redraw the construction drawing for the
                            motor and send it to you by mail to post on the net. I only have about 6
                            kg. of mercury left as I lost a lot in my experiments.
                            However, it will not work in just a tube (tried that) it has to work in a
                            particular shape container which is extremely critical because resonant
                            harmonics play a role between the mercury and the iron in the walls of the
                            container.
                            When you see the drawing, you will immediately recall rock drawings 20000
                            years old where the archeologists interpreted it as a religious symbol as
                            usually because the rotor was portrayed as a swastika. (religious indeed !!)
                            A bit like the Bible, also a religious symbol but really a repositry of
                            scientific knowledge hidden behind allegorical stories.

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                            • Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                              @ALL: Would be nice if some of you will replace some of the copper winding with ferrite or even just normal iron wire. See what effects you find in conductance, speed, resistance (heat) and above all: Magnetic.

                              I would like to try Ironwires, but they are hard to get for me anyhow.
                              Anywhere is Copper used, and i mainly get my Stuff from Junk, its much cheaper over time, and you find often things, what you never expect.
                              But some mention, that Ironwires would be way better, seems, in some cases or general an induction should be better in it.
                              Alloy shall lead Current better at a certain thickness,
                              I am just not sure about, if it is in Relation, because Alloy eats the magnetic Force, when you place it beside a turning Magnet.
                              And J. Bedini mention, that you should use for the connection away from the Coil to the charge and source magnetic Wire.
                              Whatever that means, real magnetic Wire, or only Wire, what leads current well.
                              Last edited by Joit; 03-06-2009, 12:03 PM.
                              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                              • I have an idea.Use iron wire used to build honeycomb. It is iron wire I suppose, though not insulated.Insulate it by tapping into melted wax or paraffin.Wind a coil then boil out in melted paraffin or wax and let it cool, then finish using lathe with care. I plan to build my coils that way - all natural materials. I think such coil will be excellent for high frequency hv.

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