Tesla's wireless electricity transmission

[amigo]

But I was unable to light incandescent bulb And I do believe I can do some more tune ups to try to make it work.

Incandescent and fluorescent, eh?

YouTube - Spatial Energy Coherence, Cool White #6

[FuzzyTomCat]

Nikola Tesla - Patent No. 454,622

Hi All,
After reading the "System of Electric Lighting" Patent No. 454.622 the wiring diagram Fig.1 appears to be several wiring diagrams into one, reading closely the specifications, using these constants.

a = spark gap
C = capacitor
W = antenna, wall, box enclosure, frame
G = power providing source or power consuming load
Ground = earth or chassis

Figure 2 = lamp RF or HV
Figure 3 = collector RF or ether "cosmic-ray"

Figure 2 and 3 =
15-20 KHz frequency
20,000 volts

I'm not sure but these are the five wiring diagrams I came up with for each of the device usages in the specifications in the patent, depending on how they are connected and to what.







Anyone have any comments or want to mark-up one of the wiring diagram figures go ahead ....please do.

Glen

[FuzzyTomCat]

amigo

Here's a bit about mistaken identity of the person in that photo being Tesla:

Quote:

Tesla has been linked to Einstein because of a famous photo which was taken on April 23, 1921 in New Brunswick, New Jersey in celebration of a new RCA transatlantic broadcasting station that was being put in operation. Present at the event were scientists and corporate heads from RCA, GE and AT&T including Charles Steinmetz, Irving Langmuir, David Sarnoff and Albert Einstein. Standing in between Steinmetz and Einstein was a man who resembled Nikola Tesla. I, myself, thought it was Tesla, and wrote an article which included this assumption for the 1986 ITS Symposium. Margaret Cheney and also R.G. Williams in their respective biographies also did the same thing.

After conferring with Leland Anderson and searching back to original sources which included the an article in the New York Herald, and the original caption for the photo, it has been determined that the man standing between Einsten and Steinmetz was one John Carson, who was an engineer for AT&T. This photo has also been doctored to air-brush out all individuals except for Einstein and Steinmetz by the GE people who use it to imply a special relationship between Steinmetz and Einstein.

Hey amigo,

The first thing is to remember that the Marconi "New Brunswick, NJ" radio station "Somerset" was

built in 1913
Feb 9, 1917 seized by the US Government and operated by the US Navy until 1921 (Nikola Tesla worked for the US Navy 1917-1921)
1921 station went to RCA a subsiderary of General Electric (PHOTO)
1952 13 antennas demolished
2004 all but one building left on the 160 acre parcel with a 100 foot Raritan River frontage

There are some other items that may dispute writer and publisher Leland Andersons searching and using a referred "undated" article from the New York Herald and not the New York Times or using any other sources. There are several other web sites including "Wikipedia" Marconi Station - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia photograph that has not been changed or updated with this information from Leland Anderson.

Tesla biography - Man Out of Time

PLASMA INTERNATIONAL - NIKOLA TESLA - MASTER OF LIGHTING

Nikola Tesla - the man who electrified the world!!

Here are some additional photographs of Nikola Tesla -




And here is some additional information -

Tesla's "Black Box"

Quote:

But later years turned a kindlier edge toward him. Long after his principle foe had died, other sought him out. Employed by the Rockefellers in their RCA venture, Tesla was given the task of restructuring the now failing Marconi System. David Sarnoff did not permit Tesla the dignity of working under his own name!

While working for RCA under the name "Terbo", his mother's maiden name,


And the person that Leland Anderson would like us to believe these photos are is John Carson one of the Carson twins John Renshaw Carson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia from Princeston University John and Robb Carson Letters, 1903-1908: Finding Aid



I just don't think Leland Anderson is correct.

Regards
Glen

[amigo]

Hey FuzzyTomCat,

I really can not say for sure. Besides you appear to have done far more research and contemplating about this than me, so I'll just go with what you wrote here instead of my original assumption.

Thanks.

[rickoff]

1920 photo of Tesla

Hey Glen, here's another photo of Tesla, taken in 1920

[FuzzyTomCat]

Rick

Hey Glen, here's another photo of Tesla, taken in 1920

Hi Rick,
I haven't been able to see you images for some time ... ever since the Microsoft problem with a mass publication on the DNS mandatory patch several months ago. I was one of the first million computers that got infected with really good firewalls and anti virus software that didn't stop the problem and it spread to my other networked computers, and the nice people in India that are the outsource for Microsoft their help made things much worse I was a "genni pig" for them it appears. I am to receive a CD in the mail with SP3 and the patches to repair my Windows but haven't got it yet, so it's "Google Chrome" because IE, Update, Live and Download from Microsoft don't work right or at all. (I'm waiting for Windows 7 .... maybe)

I have to look at someone else's computer so please bear with me for a few days .....

Here is another photo I found not sure what time frame but it sure looks as if Nikola Tesla is not 6 foot 7 inches in this photograph also as a newspaper reports says. I think he's around six foot maybe six foot one inches at most.


By chance is your photograph one of the "portraits" circa 1920 at this site ?
Tesla appears to be graying ... it could be in the late 1920's in that photograph if it's the one your referring to.
TWP Nikola Tesla Photo Archive

The other thing I found was "Vacuum Tube" manuals from Telefunken and RCA from 1930, 1931 and 1932 with illustrations and all tubes listed that were manufactured, the problem is the Telefunken manual is in German. (Good thing there's Language Tools )

http://63.227.91.114/Common/Manuals/Tube_Manuals.php

http://63.227.91.114/Common/Manuals/...%201930-31.pdf Telefunken Tube Manual
http://63.227.91.114/Common/Manuals/...-10%201933.pdf RCA Tube Manual
http://63.227.91.114/Common/Manuals/.../WE%201933.pdf Western Electric
http://63.227.91.114/Common/Manuals/...eur%201934.pdf RCA de forest Transmitting

Glen

[FuzzyTomCat]

1931 Pierce Arrow

Hey Rick an All,

The other thing I found out is the Pierce Arrow used 6 volt head lamps it had a 6 volt generator "Owen Dyneto" # CO 1236 with seperate voltage regulator the V8 used a Owens Dyneto #DI-1313 starter and the V12 used a Owens Dyneto #DI-1314 both 6 volt and the in dash radio is also a 6 volt. There was a report of a 12-volt Willard battery installed in the car, this would be difficult to change over the entire car to 12 volt, including the 6 volt radio and clock.



Please note the dash "no" glove box as some reports say Tesla mounted some controls in.

And controlling interest in Pierce Arrow was Studebaker from 1929 who authorized the car for the modifications and who really got the car ......

Does anyone have more information to add or change ?

Glen

[rickoff]

By chance is your photograph one of the "portraits" circa 1920 at this site ?
Tesla appears to be graying ... it could be in the late 1920's in that photograph if it's the one your referring to.
TWP Nikola Tesla Photo Archive

Hi Glen,

Yes, the fourth photo in the archive link is the same as the one I showed, except that my photo was quite large.

Regarding the Pierce Arrow, Tesla could have worked out just about any battery setup that he desired. There was plenty of room under the hood, and in the trunk, in those days, so he could have installed several batteries to have whatever voltage and overall capacity that he felt was necessary.

Rick

[FuzzyTomCat]

Rick

Hi Glen,

Yes, the fourth photo in the archive link is the same as the one I showed, except that my photo was quite large.

Regarding the Pierce Arrow, Tesla could have worked out just about any battery setup that he desired. There was plenty of room under the hood, and in the trunk, in those days, so he could have installed several batteries to have whatever voltage and overall capacity that he felt was necessary.

Rick

Hi Rick,
I thought that may be the photograph you were thinking about here is a match for it in the Tesla "look".



On the Pierce Arrow your correct he could have had anything he wanted made I guess my point being, to change over the lights, gauges, clock and radio from a 6 volt standard car to a 12 volt not been made model would be quit an expense over and above. This is a time when as you know Tesla was not rich and getting older, Pierce Arrow was loosing money and had sold controlling interest to Studebaker and Westinghouse was still recovering from the depression ..... just makes me wonder what happened.

Best Regards,
Glen

[rickoff]

Right, Glen. There would have been no point in changing out all the 6 volt system accessories in the 1933 Pierce Arrow. The power supply to the electric motor (or cosmic ray motor), however, could have been whatever was needed. It seems that, to us, this will remain a mystery. Tesla did allude to collecting highly charged particles from the atmospere in a condenser, so perhaps a bank of large condensers was used in the Pierce Arrow. I think that he also learned that the high energy ultraviolet ionization path that he projected from the top of the Wardenclyffe tower was very useful for collecting and concentrating cosmic rays. Of course the tower was demolished in 1917, so it did not play a part in the Pierce Arrow experiment. Perhaps Tesla, sensing an impending end to his Wardenclyffe project, secretly removed the ultraviolet beam apparatus, and other essential parts from the installation, and reinstalled them elsewhere. And Lee Deforest, who is said to have worked on the Pierce Arrow project with Tesla, probably had some fairly good resources of his own.

[Aromaz]

Did anyone ever consider that those two rods might not be for collecting from atmosphere, but that they might in fact have been Radium charged/coated/alloy? Ah, yes - but Tesla had a meeting with Marie Curie and he has been quite interested in the element called Radium since.

TESLA " .....to produce radium in unlimited quantity for $1 a pound were announced by Dr. Nikola Tesla yesterday at a luncheon on his eighty-first birthday ......" or something similar?

See 1936 here:
HISTORY OF THE RADIUM LEAGUE

In this one search "RADIUM"
Tesla Technology Series

and Tesla on 76th birthday:
"All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles (Cosmic radiation), each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them."

I was able to prevail upon Dr. Tesla to give me some idea of the principle upon which his cosmic ray motor works.

"I will tell you in the most general way," he said. "The cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges - ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor."

For those that does not see the relevance of this last statement: It is basically the effect of a neutron absorbed by a atom - change of isotope - Beta+ and also relevant for formation of Radium E from Bismuth.

[rickoff]

Did anyone ever consider that those two rods might not be for collecting from atmosphere.....,

What two rods are you referring to, Aromaz?

[amigo]

What two rods are you referring to, Aromaz?

It was written that when Tesla did that electric car test, he brought a "black box" with him, wired it up to the car, then inserted two rods into the box.

I think it has always been assumed that those rods could've been ferrite, or perhaps served as some antenna. But I do not ever recall reading about the idea that rods might be radioactive source and that the "black box" was a nuclear battery...which then raises more questions. (as if we did not have many already )

[FuzzyTomCat]

amigo

It was written that when Tesla did that electric car test, he brought a "black box" with him, wired it up to the car, then inserted two rods into the box.

I think it has always been assumed that those rods could've been ferrite, or perhaps served as some antenna. But I do not ever recall reading about the idea that rods might be radioactive source and that the "black box" was a nuclear battery...which then raises more questions. (as if we did not have many already )

Hi amigo,
I always assumed that these rods were part of the circuit, if you look at my post #137 discussing patent 454,622 Fig. 1 A thru E that Tesla on most all of his "tesla coil" type devices had a "Spark Gap" this is the component I'm sure your aware of "a" on the schematic. I think the reason for the exposure was a way for clearing the ionized air inside of the black box and to turn the device off safely.

I personally like Fig. 1B schematic for the possible powering of the 1931 Pierce Arrow -

Patent Details (page 3) -

21 In Fig. 3, & is a rarefied or exhausted glass globe or receiver, in which is a body of carbon or other suitable conductor e. To this body is connected a metallic conductor/,

25 which passes through and is sealed in the glass wall of the globe, outside of which it is united to a copper or other wire g, by means of which it is to be electrically connected to one pole or terminal of the source of current.

30 Outside of the globe the conducting-wires are protected by a coating of insulation 7?, of any suitable kind, and inside tlie globe the supporting-wire is inclosed in and insulated by a tube or coating k of a refractory insulating

35 substance, such as pipe-clay or the like. A reflecting-plate I is shown applied to the outside of the globe &. This form of lamp is a type of those designed for direct electrical connection with one terminal of the source

40 of current; but, as above stated, there need not be a direct connection, for the carbon or other illuminating body may be rendered luminous by inductive action of the current thereon, and this may be brought about in several ways.

60 Fig. 3, which is. coated in like manner with a refractory insulating material 7c. The neck of the globe fits into a socket composed of an insulating tube or cylinder^, with a more or less complete metallic lining s, electrically

65 connected by a metallic head or plate r with a conductor g, that is to be attached -to one pole of the source of current. The metallic lining s and the sheet m thus compose the plates or armatures of a condenser.

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The preferred form of lamp for this purpose, however, is shown in Fig, 2. In this figure the globe b is formed with a cylindrical neck, within which is a tube or sheet in of conducting material on the side and

50 over the end of a cylinder or plug n of any suitable insulating material. The lower edges of this tube are in electrical contact with a metallic plate o, secured to the cylinder n, all the exposed surfaces of such plate and of the

55 other conductors being carefully coated and protected by insulation. The light-giving body e, in this case a straight-stem of carbon, is electrically connected with the said plate.. by a wire or conductor similar to the wire/,

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70 This invention is not limited to the special means described for producing the results hereinabove set forth, for it will be seen that various plans and means of producing currents of very high frequency are known, and also means for producing very high potentials; but I have only described herein certain ways in which I have practically carried out the invention.

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As you may be able to tell there is a huge difference between Fig. 2 and Fig. 3 descriptions, construction and usages, "IF" using Fig. 3 to supply power to "G" a 2-phase tesla poly-phase motor using "W" as the black box inside as a 15-20KHz frequency resonator for possible "cosmic ray" collections. I'm still in thought mode here ...... most of the devices and information prior to March 1895 were destroyed in the questionable fire Nikola Tesla had, this would be one of them.

Your or anyones thoughts ???

Best regards,
Glen

[amigo]

Hi FuzzyTomCat,

To be honest I never considered those rods to be anything but part of the circuit either. But also I never considered them to potentially be radioactive either, and if they were, that brings more interesting questions to mind.

I am not too convinced that they were used as a spark gap, especailly that he inserted them after the fact (once wiring the box). Tesla spent decades pefecting spark gaps of all kinds and had long surpassed the air gap as an ideal source of circuit interruptions.

Because this anecdotal story was from the '30s, he had tubes available to him and so could've devised a specialized spark gap in one of those tubes inside the "black box", voiding the need for an external spark gap.

But, if the rods were radioactive(-ly coated) in some way (and we also know several of his contemporaries at that time were experimenting with radioactive excitations) - perhaps as a source of beta particles - he could've just inserted them into air coils and draw some initial power from that circuit, just as modern nuclear batteries do.

Let's not forget that radioactive elements and ores were not controlled substances back then and could be procured easily (as if Tesla ever had issues procuring even exotic stuff).

Just thinkin' outloud here...