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  • I said a few times to few people:

    In particular where patents are in the equation; when you are doing research
    on these old devices\inventions you have to keep a few things in your mind:

    A) What was available then to that person.
    B) Who were the people he was in contact with.
    C) Usually the inventor kept some fact(s) hidden - to protect his patent.
    D) What was his particular field of interest then and just prior to the invention.
    E) Look at the invention like you will look at a solar eclipse -
    Block the main event and look at the surroundings.

    In this last case, that was how I actually found the 'secret' of the EV Gray tube/valve and others. First, update your info with regards to 'nuclear' knowledge as Tesla (or whomever you are researching) would have known up to that particular date then re-read that person's personal history, related news and magazine clipping, talks he did - whatever.

    THEN go back and read the direct info/patent you are interested in. It is very much like forensics - research not only the item, but the environment.

    TESLA: He was not all that magic or super intelligent. He just know more than the Average person – about more subjects. I do think many people on this and other related forums fail to realize that Nikola Tesla’s also had other interests, knowledge and even patents. These includes medical, astrology (as in physical AND spiritual) – then there is one particular field few people do realize and this is a critically error in our interest field:

    Nikola Tesla was also what we will call today a METALURGIST, MINERALOGIST and GEMOLOGIST. So you add all of these together you will find he probably would have loved the periodic table.

    In many of his patents he use the word “METAL” – unless it is otherwise started as being FERRITE, COPPER, etc – it could mean anything. Radium is a metal, Uranium is a metal, Mercury is a metal. In those days they also liked to work with Cobalt, Corundum and Zirconia.

    Example of further TESLA related research:
    So let me give you another example of research. In this case let us see what other Information Tesla might have had in relation to NUCLEAR physics. Being a scientist, researcher and inventor – with a very high requirement of recognition and ego; he obviously would have been VERY interested in science literature and the NOBEL price.

    In 1895 Rutherford traveled to England for postgraduate study at the Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge (1895–1898), and he briefly held the world record for the distance over which electromagnetic waves could be detected. During the investigation of radioactivity he coined the terms alpha and beta to describe the two distinct types of radiation emitted by thorium and uranium.

    Between 1900 and 1903, Ernest Rutherford and Frederick Soddy showed how thorium decayed at a fixed rate over time into a series of other elements. This observation led to the identification of half life as one of the outcomes of the alpha particle experiments that led to their disintegration theory of radioactivity. In 1908 Ernest Rutherford received the Nobel Price for his research. In 1919 he became the first person to transmute one element into another when he converted nitrogen into oxygen through the nuclear reaction. In 1926 he wrote a book “The electrical Structure of Matter”.

    Tesla always studied his peers; so he definitely would have studied the work of Rutherford and the particular point I lifted out above would have been of great interest to Tesla.

    Some other interesting research of Nikola Tesla:
    We all know he was Serbian, but did you know that he continue to have very close ties for all of his life? The president of the Belgrade university and senior scientist to the Monarchy was Djordje Stanojević – not just an aquantance, but very personal friend of Tesla - since childhood. In fact Stanojević was the person who opend doors for Tesla, and to whom TESLA always sent his documents.

    “Tesla ceded to Stanojević the texts of patents and lectures, and sent images and schemes, so Stanojević, himself well known in broader scientific circles in Europe, used that in the most skillful manner, and introduces our science to the modern currents in the field of electronic engineering. “B92 - Tesla - Life and work - Nikola Tesla and his Compatriots

    Another example of interest:
    I once saw a photo of Nikola Tesla with Kenneth Swezey. So who was this Swezey? Following that out, I found that KS actually formed the Tesla Society, was a friend of Tesla and more important:

    “After Mr. Swezey died in 1972, the Smithsonian Institution acquired his collection and organized it into 26 document boxes. In 1983 the Division of Electricity, which had been holding the papers, transferred them to the Archives Center, National Museum of American History.”
    Important: Those are 26 boxes of TESLA related documents.

    Tesla worked with Uranium – already in 1893;
    Tesla devised all kinds of wirelessly lit vacuum and gas filled tubes. He increased the brilliance by using glass of which the silica compound was mixed with uranium and coating them with phosphors. That was Tesla version of the Fluorescent tubes.

    EDIT: "Removed portion"
    Last edited by Aromaz; 03-09-2009, 04:27 AM.
    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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    • Aromaz

      Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
      In many of his patents he use the word “METAL” – unless it is otherwise started as being FERRITE, COPPER, etc – it could mean anything. Radium is a metal, Uranium is a metal, Mercury is a metal. In those days they also liked to work with Cobalt, Corundum and Zirconia.
      ...........
      Another example of interest:
      I once saw a photo of Nikola Tesla with Kenneth Swezey. So who was this Swezey? Following that out, I found that KS actually formed the Tesla Society, was a friend of Tesla and more important:

      “After Mr. Swezey died in 1972, the Smithsonian Institution acquired his collection and organized it into 26 document boxes. In 1983 the Division of Electricity, which had been holding the papers, transferred them to the Archives Center, National Museum of American History.”
      Important: Those are 26 boxes of TESLA related documents.

      Tesla worked with Uranium – already in 1893;
      Tesla devised all kinds of wirelessly lit vacuum and gas filled tubes. He increased the brilliance by using glass of which the silica compound was mixed with uranium and coating them with phosphors. That was Tesla version of the Fluorescent tubes.
      Hi Aromaz,
      I agree that Nikola Tesla could have used almost any metal material available at the time including all you mentioned and some not. I had a opportunity in school back in the late 60's to expose B&W 5x7 film to a 15cm square cube piece of uranium from several seconds to several minuets developing the film and counting dots it was boring but I learned a lot about this material. This type of radioactive material could have been used but as you know Tesla was a big safety buff from his 1" thick rubber sole shoes he used during experiments to the publics and consumers safety of his devices.

      The Kenneth Swezey information is one of mystery to me after seeing the de classified documents from the FBI about his involvement in the break in of Nikola Tesla's safe with Sava Kosanovich with witnesses from the Hotel management and Yugoslavia Government hours after his death ..... friend or foe ??

      De-Classified FBI file - 252 pages
      ( Swezey pages 6,7,33,34,39, plus..)
      http://www.lostartsmedia.com/images/teslafbifile.pdf

      *additional De-Classified FBI files*
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images
      Nikola Tesla Resources and Images

      And it's funny you mentioning about the uranium glass ...... I bought some for my son last year from "EBay" from this gentlemen ....

      URANIUM GLASS TUBING Boro 76mm OD x 3mm x 48"+ L - eBay (item 6100453443 end time Apr-04-09 19:57:13 PDT)

      ..... of course what I bought was much smaller 1/2" diameter and cheeper, was made prior to WW11 and is old new stock ..... my son and son in-law plus 10 or so friends are professional glass blowers thats why I'm so interested in patent # 454,622 Figure 3, and I have 20 Lbs of graphite to boot, just no vacuum machine yet and maybe some Argon gas.

      Regards,
      Glen
      Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 03-09-2009, 09:04 PM. Reason: forgot son in-law and friends
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      • Camp Hero - Montauk - Long Island, New York

        Hi All,
        I wanted to place the last possible area that Nikola Tesla may have been working for the US Government after the Telefunken and Marconi "spark gap" transmitter radio stations. This would be Camp Hero - Fort Pond - Montauk on the NE tip of Long Island New York.

        41 3' 44" N, 71 52' 27" W (or) 41.062222, -71.874167

        The Montauk Project was alleged to be a series of secret United States government projects conducted at Camp Hero or Montauk Air Force Station on Montauk, Long Island for the purpose of developing psychological warfare techniques and exotic research including time travel.

        Montauk Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        Fort Pond Bay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        Camp Hero State Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        Philadelphia Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        Based on its history and location, it was not surprising that the government established Fort Hero in 1929 on the point just south of the lighthouse.
        The US Army upgraded Fort Hero, and renamed it Camp Hero in 1942. The Navy also acquired land in the area, including Fort Pond and Montauk Manor. They built docks, seaplane hangars, barracks, and other buildings in the area. There was also a huge torpedo testing facility.
        Camp Hero itself swelled to 278 acres (1.1 km²), and included four cutting-edge 16-inch artillery pieces in concrete bunkers, aimed out to sea. The coastal gun emplacements were camouflaged with netting and foliage. A large "Fire Control Center" was built next to the lighthouse to direct the artillery and Anti-aircraft warfare. Other armaments included quadruple fifty caliber Machine Gun for low altitude defense up to large 90mm and 120mm artillery. The camp was a self-contained town with recreational facilities, barracks and its own power plant.
        To protect it from enemy bombers and the prying eyes of Nazi spies in fishing boats, the entire base was built to look like a typical New England fishing village. Concrete bunkers had windows painted on them and ornamental roofs with fake dormers. The gymnasium was made to look like a church with a faux steeple.



        The other information is the 300 foot "Ring" located at this site and now the ninth set of "Y" connected three circular magnetical flux arks that I have listed previously in this thread covering all US military facilitys on the east coast. The results are the same as the other eight sets the site is within the radius in a ( 5x5 ) ten mile wide area from the radius center line, this site being 4 miles from A/PH-CL9 at W23 degrees on the equator.

        13358.34 Km diameter
        6679.17 Km radius

        W23 degrees 00' Phase A center of circle A/PH-CL9
        E97 degrees 00' Phase B center of circle B/PH-CL9
        W143 degrees 00' Phase C center of circle C/PH-CL9

        There is also someone that has also has noticed the rings independent of myself.

        http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/bm-mtm.html
        http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/bm-bhm.html
        http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/bm-comp.html

        and some "YouTube" videos of the area and the sites ........

        YouTube - Urban Explorers: Camp Hero Montauk Project Revealed
        YouTube - Urban Explorers: Camp Hero Montauk Project Revisited






        and some fairly good material on the workings of this area and possibly what was going on ....

        Montauk Project - Interview From "The Metaphysical Experience"
        Montauk Project - Crystalinks
        The Phoenix
        Philidelphia Experiment: New Info Found on Stealth Technology & Grays & Pleiadians
        The Montauk Project - Phoenix II
        Wireless History
        Camp Hero
        Montauk Project:New Philidelphia Experiment Videos Found on Invisibility Technology from ET's
        Montauk Point and Camp Hero
        THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY - 2
        THE HISTORY OF MONTAUK AIR FORCE STATION

        Just a little reading material for those that may be interested in this, some information of which is believable and some I'll leave up to you ..... I posted the best available for your enjoyment.

        Regards,
        Glen
        Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 03-09-2009, 09:11 PM. Reason: spelling
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        • Good post, Glen

          Hi Glen,

          A lot of interesting stuff all tied together and linked to Tesla and the things we have been talking about here. I have studied these topics for a number of years, and while much of it at first glance seems too far fetched and spectacular to possibly be true, the deeper you dig the more that it fits together as realistic possibility, and even probability. I heard a lengthy broadcast on Coast to Coast radio several years ago featuring Al Bielik, who told how Tesla had originally been in charge of the project concerning the Eldridge. Al also spoke of Tesla's Pierce Arrow, the Montauk Project, Pearl Harbor, and other things of great interest. It struck me at the time that Al had intensive technical knowledge concerning the things he was talking about. If you Google Al Bielik, you will find that a lot of negative "information" has been posted online to discredit him and make him out to be a crazy kook. For most people, that sort of information would be easy to believe. But if you listen to Al speak, there is definitely a ring of truth and authenticity, even though his story is as fantastic as any science fiction saga ever told. Did you ever hear the Coast to Coast interview? I believe that I have a copy of that somewhere in mp3 format. Let me know if you're interested.
          "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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          • Interesting, I am till trying to catch up on this tread and all the geometry.

            Got another one to add for those interested. It started off with a reference to Atlantis and the ancient Sumerians. According to some clay tables they have left critical information on three places around the earth,
            stating: Atlantis, Egypt Pyramids and another.

            So, since they seems to had the ability to travel all over and around the earth, and since they probably expected it to be preserved for millenia, I played a few weeks ago.

            We know now only of one site: The Sfinks East of the pyramids of Giza. So I took the circumference of the earth and divide it by three - thinking "If I was to hide this info and hope it will survive so long, I will have to consider meteorites - So I will place it on three different faces of the earth. Thus keeping the same E-W line I divide the earth in 3 equal parts.

            Position #1 - Giza in Egypt.
            Position #2 - North West coast Cuba - Ancienet underwater city
            Also near the famous Bermuda Triangle (South from);
            Could be Atlantis
            Position #3 - South from Japan - Ancient underwater city
            Also known similar effects as Bermuda with magnetic anomalities.
            Also South from.
            Could be Mu.

            BUT, if we use the ancient city of Baalbek - then all fits together in 3 equal parts.

            In #2 and #3 the exact spot if only a few miles off from what has been discovered and identified, and probably part of a much larger city/complex.

            Now, take this information and super-impose your references to Tesla sites
            and then take the ELF and other strange sites of US Navy ?????

            There are some strange geometries going on here. Seems they form a pattern, so just got to figure out what are in those places where we have 'energy nodes' but do not know what it is about.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • Rick

              Originally posted by rickoff View Post
              Hi Glen,

              A lot of interesting stuff all tied together and linked to Tesla and the things we have been talking about here. I have studied these topics for a number of years, and while much of it at first glance seems too far fetched and spectacular to possibly be true, the deeper you dig the more that it fits together as realistic possibility, and even probability. I heard a lengthy broadcast on Coast to Coast radio several years ago featuring Al Bielik, who told how Tesla had originally been in charge of the project concerning the Eldridge. Al also spoke of Tesla's Pierce Arrow, the Montauk Project, Pearl Harbor, and other things of great interest. It struck me at the time that Al had intensive technical knowledge concerning the things he was talking about. If you Google Al Bielik, you will find that a lot of negative "information" has been posted online to discredit him and make him out to be a crazy kook. For most people, that sort of information would be easy to believe. But if you listen to Al speak, there is definitely a ring of truth and authenticity, even though his story is as fantastic as any science fiction saga ever told. Did you ever hear the Coast to Coast interview? I believe that I have a copy of that somewhere in mp3 format. Let me know if you're interested.
              Hi Rick,
              Thanks for the kind words about the post, I've learned from you and the other masters here at Energetic and there are quite a few. I was going to give the final edition of Tesla's last stand in a short version but the last 10 years of his life was one of mystery as everyone knows so I put everything left together. What I tried to show was the best information that is available and what has happened we're back to Long Island, New York with United States Government involvement and in the haze of cutting age science decades ago, and a trail of bird crumbs to follow. I have heard of Al Bielik, his name has been at one time before the past several months have had some really out there things he was saying I thought ..... but now just with what I have found he sounds fairly sane maybe touched, but not insane. The other thing that struck me strange earlier was the involvement of the US Navy intelligence at the time of Nikola Tesla's death, now with Fort Pond - Camp Hero "Montauk Project" this would probably be the one area or site that it could all about.

              I have came up with a new "Google Earth" KMZ point file in zip format with all the areas we have used in this thread including the "Omega - ground reference building at Baltra Island", "Wardencleffe - Tesla's Laboratory facility in New York", "Camp Upton - Brookhaven National Laboratory", "Pyramids in Gazi and Mexico", "Thunguska", "Colorado Springs, Peterson AFB, Fort Carson, Garden of the Gods extension land anomalies", "Cern - Switzerland and France", "Area 51 - US Military facility", "Tikal, Guatemala - Dozens of Mayan Pyramids", "Shaanxi - Xi'an, China ( over 100 Pyramids ) Government and military Facilities", "Guimar - Canary Islands", "Telefunken Transmitter - Sayville, New York", "Marconi Transmitter - New Brunswick and Belmar, New Jersey", "Camp Hero and Fort Pond - Montauk, New York" and all the "Y" connected radius "Equator" magnetic circular flux line points for the above list.

              World "Y" Magnet Flux Lines Points (KMZ file)

              Using Places - Google Earth User Guide

              There is some really great and strange things at the "Montauk, New York" site, bunkers, houses on bunkers, isolated buildings and if you use the (National Geographic) historical maps, weather map, population map, trail maps, search maps, buy maps - national geographic maps site for cross reference with my set points, National Geographic has a "Birds Eye" view thats 40% closer than Google Earth but is limited in screen size ...... the details are much better and you can rotate at 90 degree intervals.

              And I'd love to hear the MP3 if you have it around.

              Now I'm still looking at patent #454,622 and the receiver bulb Fig.3 just something about it ..... can't put my finger on it yet.

              Best Regards,
              Glen
              Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 04-04-2010, 08:44 PM. Reason: New Google Earth "KMZ" file
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              • @FuzzyTomCat;

                Impressive - very nicely done and interesting.

                Thanks for this impressive result!
                Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                • Originally posted by FuzzyTomCat View Post
                  Now I'm still looking at patent #454,622 and the receiver bulb Fig.3 just something about it ..... can't put my finger on it yet.
                  Maybe the 'Reflecting plate' 'i' act:
                  a) As receiving antennae
                  b) Reflector of power to the carbon ball in middle.

                  Kind of strange, yes.
                  Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                  • Aromaz

                    Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                    Maybe the 'Reflecting plate' 'i' act:
                    a) As receiving antennae
                    b) Reflector of power to the carbon ball in middle.

                    Kind of strange, yes.
                    Hi Aromaz,
                    Thank you for the complement on the Tesla "Camp Hero - Montauk" post, theres a lot of strange stuff that possibly went on there for sure.

                    As for the patent # 454,622 illustration of Figure 3 I enlarged it as it's hard to see at the size on the patent. The "i" you refer to is what appears to be the letter "l" ...... but your correct I think on your observations on it being a Reflector of power to the carbon ball in middle which would possibly make it as receiving antenna, and it's the only bulb or globe in Tesla's patents I can find like it.



                    I placed a red line through the carbon ball center line and the reflector looks fairly centered between the blue dots near the ends of the reflector plate "l" directing energy back to the round carbon conductor "e". The only question is what is the material of the reflector plate "l" made from ..... something common or is it a exotic material the silvery coating seen on the glass envelopes inside is generally made of barium, which reacts (when hot) with gases, taking them out of circulation as soon as they appear so it cant be that because it's on the outside of the bulb or globe.

                    Very strange indeed ....

                    Best Regards,
                    Glen
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                    Open Source Research and Development

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                    • Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' - Russia

                      Hi All,

                      When going through my Russia stuff I noticed that the information on my "Google Earth" KLM zip file for "Thunguska" is in the wrong place the location please forgive me it should be at 60 55' 0"N, 101 57' 0"E (or) 60.916667, 101.95 I will update the file for a future revision release on my Tesla and "wye" (Y) KLM points.

                      Now for the really good stuff ..... while surfin around I found a device Marx generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that looks like a 5 story tall "Tesla Coil" at a Russian test site built in 1929, one of many pieces of High Voltage Equipment of monstrous size in Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' ( I think it's the location - it's hazy ) was throwing around 450 foot lightning bolts just cant find it yet but have some dandy photos to share .......



                      A nice little video ....

                      YouTube - SIBNIIE the 7 Megavolt Marx Generator combo video of Novosibirsk, Siberia & Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast'

                      Some good web sites with some great "must see" photographs ....

                      Fishki.Net - Êîìïëåêñ óñòàíîâîê Òåñëà (20 ôîòî) | Ôèøêèíà Êàðòèíêà
                      Translated version of http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=21722 ( GREAT PHOTOS )
                      http://skyfi.org.ru/photos/?path=marksgen

                      If anyone has more information on this location please add to the thread and any comments.

                      Regards,
                      Glen
                      Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 03-13-2009, 07:09 PM. Reason: removed photos from high voltage testing facility in Novosibirsk, Siberia
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                      • Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast'

                        Hi All,

                        Well I found the Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' High Voltage test site, just wanted to make sure it was the correct place in Russia -

                        55 55' 26.15"N, 36 49' 10.97"E (or) 55.918653, 36.818889

                        As you can see from the aerial photograph from "Google Earth" it has a wonderful 800 foot ring just to the south, a USA military and a near Tesla site anomaly. This will be added to my "wye" (Y) magnetic circular flux arks from the equator with the other nine sets now known I found being or has been used.



                        Now it's back to the USA and Tesla's wireless electrical transmission ..... or did Tesla have any influence here with this .......

                        Glen
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                        Open Source Research and Development

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                        • Novosibirsk, Siberia (Russia)

                          Hi All,

                          Here is the site at Novosibirsk, Siberia (Russia) that is in operation today that took the place of Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' High Voltage test facility -

                          55 0' 25.76"N, 83 1' 49.18"E (or) 55.00716100, 83.03032800

                          Ôèëèàë ÎÀÎ «ÍÒÖ ýëåêòðîýíåðãåòèêè» - ÑèáÍÈÈÝ
                          Translated version of http://www.sibniie.ru/experimental/complex.htm
                          Branch of «NTC Electroenergetiki» Public Corporation - SibNIIE

                          And the correct photos ....

                          SIBNIIE







                          I hope this clears everything up on the Russian sites the Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' is a restricted area where this site isn't.

                          Regards,
                          Glen
                          Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 03-13-2009, 09:31 AM. Reason: added photo
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                          • Another Russian site of interest

                            Glen, do you know about the beam weapon that the Soviets constructed at Saryshagan, near the Sino-Soviet border in southern Russia? A US spy satellite discovered this in 1980, and an image of that can be found here:
                            Suspected Soviet beam weapon installation.
                            The discovery of this site prompted President Reagan's announcement of the Star Wars Strategic Defense Initiative in 1983.

                            The Soviet beam weapon looks strangely familiar to Tesla's "High Potential Generator," which is shown here: Tesla's Van de Graff Generator
                            Tesla's idea was to accelerate microscopic flecks of tungsten or mercury to incredible velocities. According to the book Tesla - Master of Lightning, "He preferred that his beam be composed of a long train of single particles in order to minimize any scattering due to collisions within the beam. Electrostatic repulsion of like charges would impart the necessary energy. From the center of a highly charged sphere, grain sized projectiles would be squeezed toward an opening and fly outward with a slingshot force of several million volts." To maintain a high vacuum within his open ended tube, it is said that Tesla directed a high velocity airstream, generated by a Tesla Turbine, past the tip of the gun.

                            In 1937, as World War II seemed inevitable, Tesla sent an elaborate technical paper titled, "New Art Of Projecting Concentrated Non-Dispersive Energy through Natural Media," to a number of allied nations, including Russia. This was a description, with diagrams, of a particle beam weapon. Russia pursued the idea with great interest. They contracted with Tesla, through the Amtorg Trading Corporation, an alleged Soviet arms front in New York City. Two years later, the Soviets successfully tested one stage of the plan, and presented Tesla with a check for $25,000.

                            A secret FBI document, prepared in 1983, said that, "The Soviet Union has allegedly had access to some of Tesla's papers, possibly in Belgrade and/or elsewhere, which influenced their early research into directed energy weapons. Access to Tesla's papers on lightning, beam weapons and/or 'death rays' would give more insight into the Soviet beam weapons program." The US had actually started a top secret beam weapon project in 1958 at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, code-named Seesaw. The project, under direction of DARPA, was abandoned a decade later due to high costs and limited progress.

                            In another interesting note, Joseph Butler, of the National Air Intelligence Center, conducted an extensive search for Tesla's papers in the late 1970's. He said he found that copies of some of Tesla's papers were sent to Wright Patterson in 1945, but seemed to have vanished with no one appearing to know what happened to them.

                            There can be little doubt that the Russian government had access to Tesla's advanced technologies, and that they employed these technologies with at least some degree of success. High level US government and military officials have openly acknowledged that particle beam weaponry and HAARP technology are based upon Tesla's ideas.

                            We have covered a lot of ground in this thread, and discovered some very interesting things. It all makes for interesting reading and personal enrichment through the enlightenment that comes from connecting the dots to see the larger overall picture.

                            Best regards to you,

                            Rick
                            "Seek wisdom by keeping an open mind to alternative realities, questioning authority, and searching for truth. Only then, when you see or hear something that has 'the ring of truth' to it, will it be as if a veil has been lifted, and suddenly you will begin to hear and see far more clearly than ever before." - Rickoff

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                            • to Rick

                              Hi Rick,
                              Thanks for the information .... that is some interesting stuff on Saryshagan and Semipalatinsk in Russia, I'm going to look into these further as you could see from the photos I posted on Sychëvka, Moskovskaya Oblast' and Novosibirsk if those devices were in the USA they would be under a parking lot part of secret history, but being there in Russia who knows what one may find.

                              I think it's interesting that "Brookhaven National Laboratory" keeps coming up and here is some more. There is a site 12 miles to the south from Novosibirsk the High Voltage test site that is in operation now, it's in Akademgorodok ....

                              Akademgorodok - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                              I'ts a facility in this town called "Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics" with a VEPP-2000 VEPP-4M Electron-positron collider facility a smaller one like Brookhaven National Laboratory.

                              Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                              54 50' 56"N, 83 06' 41"E

                              List of accelerators in particle physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



                              Then I have been looking up information on making "Vacuum Tubes" for my son and son in-law to make some of the Tesla patent #454,622 receiver globes Figure 3 and what did I find but something at "Brookhaven National Laboratory" a glass blowing expert in "Vacuum Tubes" ....

                              Chemistry Glass Shop

                              go figure now with the "Telefunken" 1927 RS5 triode vacuum tube a amazingly low-priced KW transmitter tube to market for amateurs back in the day I found, the 1931 Pierce Arrow cosmic-ray "Black Box" is looking better all the time

                              Best Regards,
                              Glen
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                              Open Source Research and Development

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                              • Rick

                                Originally posted by rickoff View Post
                                Glen, do you know about the beam weapon that the Soviets constructed at Saryshagan, near the Sino-Soviet border in southern Russia? A US spy satellite discovered this in 1980, and an image of that can be found here:
                                Suspected Soviet beam weapon installation.

                                There can be little doubt that the Russian government had access to Tesla's advanced technologies, and that they employed these technologies with at least some degree of success. High level US government and military officials have openly acknowledged that particle beam weaponry and HAARP technology are based upon Tesla's ideas.

                                We have covered a lot of ground in this thread, and discovered some very interesting things. It all makes for interesting reading and personal enrichment through the enlightenment that comes from connecting the dots to see the larger overall picture.

                                Best regards to you,

                                Rick
                                Hi Rick,
                                I was able to look around the area the U.S. satellite reconnaissance photo of suspected Soviet beam weapon installation near Semipalatinsk, and boy this place gives me the "ebee jeebees" to say the least.

                                Semipalatinsk Test Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                50 7' 0"N, 78 43' 0"E (or) 50.116667, 78.716667

                                Scalar Potential Interferometer

                                This area has several towns that "Google Earth" shows but nothing is there ...

                                Repinka -
                                50 04' 15.30"N, 80 08' 58.18"E "Google Earth" nothing
                                50 04' 10.14"N, 80 01' 45.30"E Scrubbed town 4 miles West

                                Arkalyk -
                                49 53' 15.38"N, 80 20' 10.31"E "Google Earth" nothing
                                49 52' 47.03"N, 80 19' 51.01"E Scrubbed town 1 mile North

                                Then looking into the nuclear end, the reported minimum 25,000 civilians that were exposed to radioactive fallout from the USSR explosions that lived.

                                The Monster of Semipalatinsk
                                Semipalatinsk-16

                                Also the technical report on "Medical Effects and Dosimetric Data from Nuclear Tests at the Semipalatinsk Test Site" which tells the rest of the story what happened ...... the USA may do some crummy things to it's citizens but "nothing" like this at all.

                                http://www.afrri.usuhs.mil/outreach/...A-TR-06-23.pdf

                                As you said so eloquently .... "quote" ....

                                We have covered a lot of ground in this thread, and discovered some very interesting things. It all makes for interesting reading and personal enrichment through the enlightenment that comes from connecting the dots to see the larger overall picture.

                                This is so true and correct ..... but if a Tesla type device was ever here somewhere I really think it's gone now, there is just to much bad exposure and evil to this site.

                                Best Regards,
                                Glen
                                Open Source Experimentalist
                                Open Source Research and Development

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