R. Adam's secret: Radiant AUTOGENERATOR COIL

[ren]

Cody if I understand it right what they are suggesting is that the coils output is pulsed. There is no input power to the coil except that of induction due to passing magnetic flux. The coil is connected to its load (whether battery or capacitor or other) at the correct time in relation to the rotating fields. This is so there is not a direct short at all times as well. The Kozen page looks good.

But you are correct, what does make these motors super efficient is resonant switching of inductors and the correct utilisation of the charges that follow.

BTW I am working on the window motor at the moment, and I noted many things that Luc also noted in regards to his bi directional resonant setup. The circuit Ive been using is almost identical in its operation. When he is ready to apply that switching to a motor he is in for a lot of fun!

Patmac,

I would also try a commutated version, you may find that your results are even better!

[patmac]

Koneheadx circuit short the coil too, but if you short the coil with mechanical conmutator, many energy is lost in the spark, I made the same circuit with mosfets, and using half wave to create the autoinduction and get bemf to avoid the drag.

[Joit]

I agree with Cody too, and anyhow, and the Bedinimotor, as it is, not made for a selfrunner without modifcations.
I tried to bring back the Bemf into the Circuit too, but no luck.
At overview from the Spikes, that case, Bemf, its a very lower Frequence that the motor does.
This bright Dots at top from the Spikes go up and down over a far Range.

Even when it is 200 Volts, its only Hot Air without Power.
There are small bright Dots at my Scope at the top of the Spikes.
Maybe when you could collect only them, you would have the Power.
But as i said, its a very different Frequency.
Veery long instead the one from the normal Waves.
I think, sometimes i been close, but then my Pot did allways burn through.
The Bemf comes from the Magnetic field, what you build at the Coils.
And there is still Lenzs Law at the Wires inside the Coil, when they are wired normally.
Doesnt work, that you push out with one Coil the Force of Lenz Law out of the other Coil.
You still collect some AC with the Magnets at the Coils, what comes into the Circuit and what can light your Neon.
But nothing with the big Mysterious Dipole.
I wouldnt stick that much at Tom Beardens MEG.
I didnt found anywhere a proof, that the MEG really did produce Power, only much Volts. Like a transformer does.

[darkwizard]

Lenz Law

Lenz Law states: The current associated to the EMF induced by the magnet will be such that the flux of current ( in the closed path) it creates opposes the change in flux that created it.

In a open path that doesn`t exist, because there isn`t current creating a magnetic field in the coil, but if you close the path just when the north pole magnet is leaving the core of the coil , you create a magnetic field that kick off the magnet leaving the core, and create radiant energy of the collapsing field.

[darkwizard]

The magnet generates a virtual state magnetic field in a open path. It is aenergy. It is a potential field, scalar field.

If you close the loop "just a time" the virtual state magnetic field build the current in the inductor, and plus generates a magnetic field that repels the magnet. So material drag is compensated by antilenz aceleration. Net drag 0 , radiant free energy generation.

[cody]

Patmac,
The konzen circuit is the exact one that i used, the full wave rectifier isnt neccesary, a simple steering diode can be used instead, i dont know why konzen likes full waves so much. As far as mosfets collecting more energy than mechanical because there is no spark, no. You only get that spark if you dont give the energy somewhere to go, and the spark will manifest itself in mosfets as heat if you dont give the energy somewhere to go as well. Could you clarify what you ment by "using half wave to create the autoinduction and get bemf to avoid the drag". Half wave rectification or half wave resonance? I got the same HV effects from my setup but there was definatly a load put on the motor from it. Those videos are to poor of quality to prove anything to me. So if you are doing something different than shorting both legs of your coil(mechanical or solid state switch) at the peak of the magnet induced voltage(when magnet is in center of coil), then opening the switch and using a diode to steer that HV into whatever(battery, capacitor). If thats what you are doing, than you are doing the same thing i have done so i dont see how you could be seeing no load on the motor. If you are doing something different, could you please clarify very slowly so my brain can absorb what you are doing. Once again, i truly do support you and your work, i only make arguments to let the truth be the truth, and not let theory and dreams get in the way of actual results.
Ren, I think i understand exactly what they are doing, but its hard to say for sure because i havnt seen any circuit diagrams yet or videos with clear explanations. I really hope it pans out as they say, but ive seen nothing to justify it yet, and my own results have been in opposition to theirs. At some point we should join forces and make a thread about resonance in motors, as i have been applying it to my adams motor as you with your window motor. Hows your tesla coil coming?

[cody]

One more thing, the simple test i did to prove that this is putting a load on the motor was this: Spin the motor by hand, you will get those HV collapsing spikes in your shorting generator coils. Time how long it takes the motor to stop spinning completely. Now disconnect the generator coils completely and spin the motor again, time how long the motor will takes to stop spinning again. I found the motor came to a stop much sooner while shorting the generator coils, this is because its putting a load on the motor.

[ren]

it is slowly coming along Cody. As always the hunt for copper is on.

@ Darkwizard and Patmac. I think I understand what you are saying. Darkwizard mentioning Lenz law is interesting. If the coil is not connected to anything upon initial approach of the magnet does lenz's law apply to it? If the coil is suddenly connected @ top dead center do the currents induced have the same polarity as the approaching magnet and thus offer repulsive effects? Can taking power off a coil result in a device speeding up?

[patmac]

Yeah ren,

When I came to energeticforum knew to my good friend darkwizard (emiliano), he has helped me so much above all about theories, is good for that, he has a very whole knowledge about Bearden, Lenz, Ohm, Bedini and others relationed with motors and generators. This idea has born with this principle, everyday we discuss about design a motor / generator, then we have been investigating from singles Alternators Cars, Hydro - Thermo generators etc. Darkwizard recommends me can be possible reduce drag on generator using voltage doublers (diode + cap), then ever like me that idea because power grid company use it, voltage is elevated to 200000 volts after is get down with transformer near our homes. If you look the power grid, you'll notice why that wire so thinner can transmit so many kilowatts?

That was ever my question, in my concept Bearden is on the way, only potential is necessary to make work, and potential is infinite, only is finite when you measure it, present looses on the conductor, resistences etc.

Some weeks ago before design this concept I found a page about Tesla and his AC generator taken from Gerry Vassilatos book:
"He found that the effect was powerfully strengthened by placing a capacitor between the disrupter and the dynamo"
from : Gerry Vassilatos and Tesla

That was when Tesla discovered the radiant energy and discoverd that produce radiant energy, current is not necessary, only extract the potential.Then If current no flow then no drag effect on the rotor?.

Ok. I put load to generator coil, and rotor speed up, then, disconnect the coil there is no variation in speed

I'm testing a new circuit with transistor, I'll post it sooner.

[patmac]

Circuit with transistor is HERE

I recommeds BD243C, transistor or high gain transistors, in my case I'm using TIP41C, work very well. I think that mosfet work better because need less energy for swtich on.

I was thiking if it possible use a Bedini SG configuration and produce radiant energy without input only with magenets passes. I'm investigating that concept, to finish my work, where from energy that charge the battery?

[cody]

Patmac,
Thank you very much for posting that schematic. I can clearly see now that you are doing something more complex than i was with that shorting coil effect. I always thought it was an interesting effect and that something might come of it. Sorry for the misunderstanding, im on board now. Ok so i have some questions. Im going to quote ren here because he had a very easy to understand explanation: "If the coil is not connected to anything upon initial approach of the magnet does lenz's law apply to it? If the coil is suddenly connected @ top dead center do the currents induced have the same polarity as the approaching magnet and thus offer repulsive effects?" Is ren correct here? When i shorted my coil at top dead center(not using your circuit) i definatly put a drag on the motor, so im assuming my coil was attracting not repeling. Would you be so kind as to further clarify what exactly your circuit is doing to give the no drag effect you are getting, a circuit explanation that is. I apologize, i didnt see you had the circuit posted in your original post. So the konzen circuit i posted will give you those radiant spikes but does not have the no drag/increased speed effect you circuit has. I know how hard it can be to convey a point, thank you for your patients

[elias]

Hi patmac,

Your work seems really interesting. I had done some experiments before that "confirms" Bearden's stepwise-charging procedure. I simply made a coil, and attached a diode bridge with a 10,000uF capacitor at the end. My goal was to charge the capacitor without any drag on the rotor of my SSG, so what I did, was that I brought the coil closer to the the rotor slowly starting from zero volts on the cap and the capacitor charged up without any noticeable drag, but when I held it closest to the rotor, while charging from zero it dragged the rotor.

This proved for me that "current" has nothing to do with charging the capacitor, and it is only a "waste" product. Simply we need to "follow" the charge up, while charging the cap, to avoid current flow as much as possible and use the pure potential to charge our capacitor.

Now, can you clarify a bit what U did actually? Do you use your schematic for generating electricity or for driving the motor?

Thanks
Elias

[Joit]

@Darkwizard
Thats a Brainscrew again, how you think again.
Lenz law also says, the backflow is allways back to the Source..
The Forces still are at the Wires, you cant get off them
If it would that easy, you only could attach a Coil beside.
And the Current for the Magnetic Field, what is build up from the Magnet ist simple not strong enough. thats why it wont run.
An other thing is, the current allways go there, where lesser Current is.
At the moment, when you short the Coil, current will go into the Coil, and probatly only fill up, what there is lesser in.
And then, you got the Force backwards from Lenz Law again.
I think more, you would need a special Kind of Coil for that.

And maybe maybe The Diodes or Transistors are still not fast enough, that they can catch and keep the backflow inside the Coil.

@patmac.
I would not put the whole current at the Base from the Transistor, its only for switch C and E. Better, you do a Resistance there, and make a Bridge with a Diode for the mainstream to the other Circuit.
I dont think, the Current goes through the Base into the Emitter.
And maybe use a Variable Caps for better control of the Coil when you got one by your hands.

[darkwizard]

Dear Joit: Current Builds the opposite magnetic field. If there isn`t current, there isn`t opposite magnetic field. There are two different drags, what we are talking is about Lenz Drag.

The drag you mention is the material core drag. That are two different things.

[patmac]

cody

ren explanation is correct, motor run, generator coil without load the neon is glowing, you can see drag on the rotor, if I put a load, drag dissappear... If I put a capacitor, drag is present when capacitor is on 30 volts aprox. If I put a battery drag seems dissappear.

But darkwizard gave us a theory more precise:
The magnet generates a virtual state magnetic field in a open path. It is aenergy. It is a potential field, scalar field:

If you close the loop "just a time" the virtual state magnetic field build the current in the inductor, and plus generates a magnetic field that repels the magnet. So material drag is compensated by antilenz aceleration. Net drag 0, radiant free energy generation.

In the precise time the drag is not perceptible when load is present on output.

The new circuit using transistor, is adapted, the diode on C-E, is because mosfet has this diode on Drain-Source.

When magnet is near to core is atracted to him because reed switch is open, when is aligned to core in that moment reed switch close and coil is shorted circuited itself autoinduced itself, when magnet left the coil, collapses fields occurs because reed is open, and if you offers a better way for this spike (load), this collapse help to core push the magnet. REGAUGING.