Generator Increases speed under load

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, just thought i'd show you a generator design im testing. Its very similar to Dan Quales generator except this doesnt use big doughnut magnets instead neo magnets are attached to backside of steel which causes next to no cogging similar to his. and also similar is the increasing of shaft speed when under load or coils shorted. ive built an ecklin type generator before and it never increased in speed when loaded it just stayed the same speed. so im not quite sure yet the reason for the added torque on the shaft of this design. Im only spinning by hand at this point however its very easy to feel the fact that the shaft is far easier to turn while coils shorted and if i remove the coils its noticeably harder to maintain speed so it does appear the coils are contributing torque. Any comments welcome

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[SkyWatcher]

woops forgot the pic or cad drawing, here is the design.

[Inquorate]

Inertia

I can only suggest that the specific geometry of generator and it's electron movement when given a path is somehow inhibiting 'normal' kinetic energy storage of the mass in surrounding aether, so that 'normal' resistance to change of motion is bypassed.

Possible by polarization or twisting of the kinetic-energy-storage mechanism of the aether so that passing matter doesn't want to continue in a straight line like 'normal'.

If I'm right, it should be easier to spin the rotor (more torque), but to rotate the centre rod horizontally around the verticle axis centred over coils (if standing beside generator with your shoulders parallel to drive shaft, move the left end away from you, and the right end towards you) will not cause as much tilt vertically (left end will want to go up, right end will want to go down) as when unloaded.

I think.

[ren]

hmm, looks alot like a g field or axial flux generator.

[darkwizard]

It is a G Field, but something is lost here because there isn't circuit controlling lenz law.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, thanks for replies. Hi Inquorate, that certainly is a deep idea you have although im not sure how to visualize the workings because if I cant visualize something its hard for me to understand it. Hi DarkWiz & Ren, yes it does look like the g-field but is more akin to the ecklin generator. My thoughts were that as the coils are shorted they induce like poles on entry to coil then we have added acceleration because the steel can accommodate the added flux, so im guessing the steel cant be saturated or there will be no extra attraction. Now since we have added attraction (torque) on shaft and since there is next to no cogging we dont have the normal symmetric conservation of pole forces, so it would be like an air core coil with a magnet attracting with added torque ie. lentz is working for us and when departing no back drag of any sort which would cause the effect of acceleration with ever increasing coil load.

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[Ted Ewert]

Does it make any power?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, thats a good question and one I think would lead others to think that a particular device has no use in the real world. No offense to you but I have noticed that theme others have used to denounce an effect seen from a device. The output power is low at this stage only because the design is not developed however at finger spinning speed which isnt that much due to much bearing friction because there heavy duty bearings, but .5v at probably less than 100 rpm is a start and 40 milliamps coil shorted. So it works, its just how well it will work scaled up and with many more coils is to be determined by experiment.

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[BinzerBob]

A simple concept to consider why when shorted it is easier to spin is

When coils are not shorted, there might be much hysteresis losses in the metal as it magnetizes and then demagnetizes (as the magnets rotate pass the iron cores).

When you short out the coils you get the back emf that might be canceling out some of those magnetization hysteresis losses. And the end effect is that it is more efficient when there is a load.

Just something to think about.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, binzer yes I am aware of the hysteresis losses you speak of however how can that explain the removal of the coil core and the effort required to turn is then the same as with the coil cores in place unloaded.
something to think about

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[redeagle]

Things i've heard about this technology is it has something to do with magnetism on the shaft. I do know that a shorted generator coil repels the magnet flying in. Wouldn't this have a demagnetising effect on metal plate? it could be that the generator coil is eminating the drag caused by the magnetism on the shaft when there is no coil.

Matt

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, hi redeagle. The polarized steel plate does induce the same polarity field in coil/core but as said it attracts since the steel plate is not saturated and I also checked by taking magnets off steel plate and the effort to rotate shaft was the same with them off without coil/core in place. then with magnets put back on and unloaded coil/core put in place rotation effort was the same however when shorting the coil effort was reduced and higher speed could be maintained. So do you think the control test of taking magnets off compared to on is sufficient to rule out magnetism on shaft causing speed up. not sure what you meant in your last sentence.

[Mario]

Hi SkyWatcher,

thanks for sharing this, it seems a g-field type Lenz canceling action, but to better understand I have a few questions.
-How did you wind your coils, single wire, bifilar or more strands? Wire size and aprox. nr. turns?
-How did you connect the coils, series, parallel?
-Are the two coils wound the same way (winding direction)? What is the core material?
-What is the shaft made of, non magnetic material like brass, stainless steel?

Sorry for the many questions...)

regards,
Mario

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Mario, Lentz as far as i know can never be canceled, we just use it to our advantage. The fact is even if this design wasnt speeding up under load its still using lentz to our advantage and has very low magnetic drag which helps. The materials arent that critical however i used threaded steel rod from hardware store, typical steel bolts, just single wound coils in series or parallel for more voltage or current. i have different coils made one uses 24 gauge other 18 gauge, of course 18awg gives more current lower voltage.

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[Mario]

Thanks for replying. Yes, you are right of course, we don't cancel it but use it. Ok, so I'd say the steel rod is not magnetic, while the metal plates holding the magnets are since the magnets stick to it, correct?
I think it would not work with a magnetic shaft material as it would sort of short-circuit the magnetic flux.

regards,
Mario