Multiplication of electrical energy by moving neutral induction line in space

[boguslaw]

Hello,

I'd like to post that concept to prevent any harmful to humanity patent process which will lag our advancement 17 years behind due to time of patent expiration.

Around 1879 Wesley A.Gary discovered something which I believe is very important to understanding of magnetic field.He found that magnet has not only a neutral line between poles but also a neutral line for induction process.
In other ways; when approaching soft iron plate to the magnet , it's first magnetized by induction and holds opposite magnetic poles to those of magnet itself , so attraction is done automatically.Then however there is a line when iron is demagnetized and after passing it re-magnetized again , but this time holds exactly the same poles as magnet.

That effect allow inventor Wesley Gary to build special magnetic toys,motors and generators which using slightly vibration generate movement or electricity by using SUM of POWER of small electromagnet and permanent magnets.

Apparently the same concept is used differently by other inventors like Ecklin, Flynn etc. Wesley A.Gary said that and iron plate placed in that line effectively cut magnetic field force above plate.

So, the concept is easy.We are joining a few powerful , specially shaped permanent magnets and find neutral line of such composite. Then by attaching electromagnet without core (or with special core) we slightly move that neutral line in one or other direction. The coil core constituted of soft iron, or a diamagnetic substance is changing magnetic polarity inducing electric current in windings.Magnetic flux change is mostly a change of permanent magnets field and thus is powerful. The vibrations of neutral line location must be probably done very frequently because the size of neutral line is not big, that's require high frequency quite high voltage current induced in tiny windings.The rest is normal process of step down current and frequency to required level.


I know at least one device except Weslay Gary ones which probably used such concept in the past. It was Roy Jerome Meyers Absorber.

Wesley A.Gary :
Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor

Roy Jerome Meyers:
Roy J. Meyers: Absorber (Atmospheric Electrical Generator)
Roy Jerome Meyers device

[Sephiroth]

Jetijs posted some great photos that (if I understand you right) shows this neutral point on a magnet in the perendev thread...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...dev-motor.html

[gyula]

Hi Folks,

I think for the neutral line to come about, to exist, both poles of a permanent magnet are needed and even though Wesley Garry did not stress this he used horse shoe magnets to utilize the effect. I do not think the line exists in the vicinity of one magnetic pole when the other pole is far away like in case of a rod or longer cylinder magnet.
I mention this because this is the only logical deduction for me, after trying to experience the neutral zone Wesley Garry included in his patents.

I do not think it is the same neutral line Sephiroth refers to in his link. My understanding on that "neutral" line Jetijs showed by his magnet viewing film is nothing else but the so called Bloch wall that exists in the middle or geometric symmety line of any magnet. In and at the Bloch wall there is no or only very little magnetic flux indeed but this is not the same neutral line Wesley Gary discovered when placed a soft iron piece near to both poles of a horse shoe magnet.

Regards, Gyula

[Joit]

At this Page are few more Views of the Neutral Line.
Wissen Magnetmotor.at
One is around the Magnet as a Quadrat, the other one go through the middle at 90°.

[boguslaw]

Hi Folks,

I think for the neutral line to come about, to exist, both poles of a permanent magnet are needed and even though Wesley Garry did not stress this he used horse shoe magnets to utilize the effect. I do not think the line exists in the vicinity of one magnetic pole when the other pole is far away like in case of a rod or longer cylinder magnet.
I mention this because this is the only logical deduction for me, after trying to experience the neutral zone Wesley Garry included in his patents.

I do not think it is the same neutral line Sephiroth refers to in his link. My understanding on that "neutral" line Jetijs showed by his magnet viewing film is nothing else but the so called Bloch wall that exists in the middle or geometric symmety line of any magnet. In and at the Bloch wall there is no or only very little magnetic flux indeed but this is not the same neutral line Wesley Gary discovered when placed a soft iron piece near to both poles of a horse shoe magnet.

Regards, Gyula

I agree. Horse shoe magnets were used by Wesley Gary, also Meyers joined magnets by soft iron wires.
Did you ever wondered if geomagnetic poles movement around Earth rotation axis may generate high frequency fluctuations in Earth magnetic field ?
Is this possible ?

[boguslaw]

At this Page are few more Views of the Neutral Line.
Wissen Magnetmotor.at
One is around the Magnet as a Quadrat, the other one go through the middle at 90°.

Great! I don't know German language. What is that page about ?

[Joit]

Sorry,
here an attempt to translate.
Translation

Its a lot stuff about the Magnet field.

[gyula]

I agree. Horse shoe magnets were used by Wesley Gary, also Meyers joined magnets by soft iron wires.
Did you ever wondered if geomagnetic poles movement around Earth rotation axis may generate high frequency fluctuations in Earth magnetic field ?
Is this possible ?

Hi,

Unfortunately I do not have any useful info on your question. I have not read on such phenomena.
I think for high frequency fluctuations to occur, the poles' movement ought to be more rapid or active, and to my knowledge this is not the case.

rgds, Gyula

[boguslaw]

Ok,I have the answer. Geomagnetic poles rotate around axis of Earth rotation.
Normally that wouldn't induce any current in conductors because circuits lying on Earth surface are moving in the same direction as poles.
But! If someone would be able to connect to the circuit which is flying in air ,against Earth rotation and that circuit would be able to collect high frequency oscillations of Earth magnetosphere .... ?

Imagine for example a superconductor flying above permanent magnet, with a second magnet on top.One magnet being coupled to Earth South pole and second to North pole.

If Earth magnetic field strength is changed due to Earth North pole or South pole being closer and then far off to the one of the magnets of circuit we would have an measurable effect I hope.
That rotation of geomagnetic poles around axis of rotation is very fast indeed.

What do you think about it ? I think it's the way how Meyers absorber could work and Testatika also.

[Ted Ewert]

Another name for this neutral line is the Bloch wall. Lots of research already done there, Google it.

Ted

[boguslaw]

Another name for this neutral line is the Bloch wall. Lots of research already done there, Google it.

Ted

I don't think it's the same. Bloch wall is microscopic effect.This one described is related to all iron mas and dynamic effect of efect of induction.

[GSM]

Around 1879 Wesley A.Gary discovered something which I believe is very important to understanding of magnetic field. He found that magnet has not only a neutral line between poles but also a neutral line for induction process.
In other ways; when approaching soft iron plate to the magnet , it's first magnetized by induction and holds opposite magnetic poles to those of magnet itself, so attraction is done automatically.
Then however there is a line when iron is demagnetized and after passing it re-magnetized again, but this time holds exactly the same poles as magnet.

That effect allow inventor Wesley Gary to build special magnetic toys,motors and generators which using slightly vibration generate movement or electricity by using SUM of POWER of small electromagnet and permanent magnets.

Wesley A.Gary said that and iron plate placed in that line effectively cut magnetic field force above plate.
The coil core constituted of soft iron, or a diamagnetic substance is changing magnetic polarity inducing electric current in windings. Magnetic flux change is mostly a change of permanent magnets field and thus is powerful.

I wonder if I might present my findings as to the nature of magnetic fields applying here.

The neutral line relates to the armature and NOT the magnet.

Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion

Beyond the armature's neutral line with respect to the magnet (horse-shoe magnet types only) the magnet and induced armature fields are in series.
Within the armature's neutral line with respect to the magnet, the armature field suddenly reverses to become parallel with that between the poles of the magnet.

The more powerful the magnet, then the further away the armature core must be for it to switch through ITS OWN magnet induced field reversal.

The closer they are physically positioned, all armatures are attracted to the magnet with increasing force, this from beyond an armature's neutral zone distance.
Also, even though the polarity of an armature field effectively passes through a neutral zone the force of magnetic attraction between the magnet and the armature (keeper) does not !

Wesley noted that via induced magnetism an armature could hold the weight of a small steel nail to itself, but that the armature would drop the nail as the neutral zone distance between magnet and armature was traversed.
This was not due to a neutral region beyond the magnet poles causing a total loss of either magnetic induction or force of attraction between magnet, armature and nail, but due to a kinetic reversal of magnet induced armature field potential (attracting the nail to the armature), here via a lengthways field reversal (time dependent) within the paramagnetic material of the armature !

There is a very great difference between a passive and central polar 'null' line between the limbs of a horse-shoe magnet, and Wesley Gary's transitional 'neutral' line arising between an armature and its energising magnet, though both are similar in that neither line represents a 'zero' field region, as magnetic field lines continuously span both.

The position of an armature's 'neutral zone' between itself and the energising magnet relates to its own paramagnetic qualities and its physical shape dimensions, as well as the strength of plus the distance between and sizes of the horse-shoe magnet pole faces.


Wesley stated that he used two different spring sets with both acting in opposition to the magnetic force of attraction, these to neutralise the two different types of attraction forces related to the series and parallel attractions (as I have also proven is effective).
Different spring rates overcome the different magnetic pulls such that oscillation through the neutral zone becomes highly energy efficient through obviation of the constant non-linear magnet to armature attraction pull which would otherwise become unavoidable energy damping.

Thus there is not a sum of magnetism, merely a charge and discharge of fixed magnetic capacity related to the armature's paramagnetic characteristics, that charge being repeatedly captured from the magnet as it near frictionlessly (via springs) is controlled to cyclically repeatedly reverse, and hence alternate within the unaltering bipolar magnet field.
Effectively the armature becomes to the magnet, what a capacitor is to a battery, with both capable of kinetically energising an electrical circuit from an otherwise fixed potential (only) source !!!!!

This is quite different to the movement of a magnet over a coil or armature in order to generate electricity via the cutting of magnetic lines of force, for there is not any mechanical reaction or positional cogging effect in reactive opposition to field cutting action.

The 'field' reversal within the armature relates to atomic domain (electron spin axis) alignments within it, and likely starts at some magnet related centre-line field bulge acting upon the armature surface domains and inducing symmetrical but oppositely polarised waves of reversal which avalanche outwards and through the entire armature.

I have today found that with neodi magnets on the ends of an inexpensive alnico horseshoe magnet (strange that neodi horse-shoe types are not available !?) the transducing armature can be wound over its entire length without any need for open metal pole ends, this because the much stronger magnetic field will generate a neutral zone further away from the armature than is its total solenoidal radius; ie. with magnet flux passing right through the coil to the armature/ solenoid core, and having minimal flux effect reaction with the turns of the coil, as respective radial movement induces the armature/ solenoid field to 'neutral zone' reverse and generate electrical output !

When compression or tension springs are arranged to counter the unidirectional magnetic attraction, extremely little mechanical force is required to move either the magnet (neodi much lighter) or the coil overwound armature/ solenoid in order to induce alternating pulses of electrical output, and thus via near effortless cyclically cranked mechanical oscillation this arrangement will generate electrical energy purely from the atomically stored field within readily available permanent horse-shoe magnets, as indeed Wesley Gary achieved and reported so long ago.

When the armature spings were correctly adjusted, Wesley's little magnet powered motor became a self powered 'free energy' machine, though not with as much power output as from Hubbard, Hendershot and Moray devices !

Cheers .................. Graham.

[gyula]

Hi Graham,

Some years ago I also checked the existence of the neutral line Wesley Gary referred to and also found it does exist. I used ferrite antenna rod with rectangular cross section facing the poles.
I agree that a horse shoe like magnet shape is needed to have the neutral line. Indeed, horse shoe magnets are mainly Alnico types, Neo types are probably made only in China on order, and your idea of adding Neo magnets to the end of Alnico horse shoe shape magnets is good. I do think that U shaped soft iron with strong Neo magnets added to its prongs end is also a good substitute.
Thank you for describing your findings, I did not build the total setup by Wesley due to lack of mechanical help back then when I tested the effect.
It is interesting what you wrote in your last sentence on Wesley setup that it became a self powered machine. Do we have certainty on this other than a general belief, afterall the text was written by a journalist of Harper Magazine? One thing is sure, as you noticed the flux from the permanent magnet enters at the ends of the keeper and does not cut the coil wound onto the keeper and I tend to believe the counterflux from the loaded coil may influence the movement of the keeper only a little... further experiments are needed.

Thanks, Gyula