Electromagnetic Induction in Solenoid Generator Coils

[cody]

"What if I made an air core bedini motor and showed you exactly the same wave?"

Im working on basically what you described right now. I hope it does work the same because im counting on it to do the switching for my circuit. I would be interested in your results if you do make one.

[darkwizard]

Good Seph, you will prove one thing, that is not the point, but the energy remains stored at the core.

[darkwizard]

Electromagnetic Induction

Do the test like in the animation, i do it yesterday and i confirm my thoughts.

[Sephiroth]

Electromagnetic Induction

Do the test like in the animation, i do it yesterday and i confirm my thoughts.

so you are still saying that animation is wrong???

[Sephiroth]

"What if I made an air core bedini motor and showed you exactly the same wave?"

Im working on basically what you described right now. I hope it does work the same because im counting on it to do the switching for my circuit. I would be interested in your results if you do make one.

I'm sure it will there are plenty of air core replications

[darkwizard]

Air core Bedini can work, i don`t say that, i say that you are wrong. The core material of the generator coil is where the problem starts.


See i made a bedini sg with all south pole, it run similarly. You wont see the gold until it is inside of your eyes.

[Sephiroth]

Air core Bedini can work, i don`t say that, i say that you are wrong. The core material of the generator coil is where the problem starts.


See i made a bedini sg with all south pole, it run similarly. You wont see the gold until it is inside of your eyes.

Right... I am going to settle this once and for all... but if I am right, you owe me a drink cos I'm putting a alot of effort into this



watch this space...

[darkwizard]

I'm saying that the energy remains at the core until the magnetic pole reverses the polarity, it works like a capacitor, because i'm not using the dipole, and the magnetic dipole remains stored. When the switch is on the core demagnetises and the current is developed.

[darkwizard]

I`m not from darkness, only is a name because, i played MU Online

[Sephiroth]

but you are saying that voltage will be at it's highest at tdc on an air core coil aren't you? and not zero?

[darkwizard]

Yes, i'm saying that, and i'm saying that this is not a important thing , because the core stores energy.

[amigo]

darkwizard,

For the love of God, focus man...focus.

Think about what you want to write, then make it coherent and in one post, several paragraphs. You can direct answers to different people in many ways ie:

@amigo

amigo,

etc...

But please put it in one post so that there is some sense to what you write about.

Thanks!

[darkwizard]

Unit VI - Generators, Lenz’s Law, and Faraday’s Law

Let’s just say, for a moment, that the opposite was true. By moving a wire through a field, a current would be produced. This current, being in a field, would continue moving the wire through the field (instead of trying to move it in the opposite direction). This, in turn, would produce a current . . . In short, what would have been created is a self-perpetuating system that continues increasing in both motion and current, both of which require a lot of energy. This is where our theory fails. We forget a one of the most important laws of physics, the law of conservation of energy. What we would be doing is creating infinite energy from nothing but merely inching a wire through a field. Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, this entire situation is impossible.

We forget a one of the most important laws of physics, the law of conservation of energy.

A law? That is the reason?

[ren]

You know what Sep, I have been thinking about this. I think it has alot to do with the geometries of our setups. When the magnets pass the windings on my window motor they are triggered to fire, and they dont fire when the magnet is in the middle of the window winding (This is true if the winding is not a conventionally wound winding, and is placed around the circumference still in window form). But if you have a rather large solenoidal coil and a much smaller magnet on the rotor it would pass one side of the coil before reaching TDC,or the core, and then pass the other side of the coil before leaving on its way. Of course the wave form might look different if the coil was the size of the magnet (i.e large magnet small coil), but I think I understand your stance.

@ Cody. Air core motor is easy enough. You shouldnt have any problems.

@ all. What is the core really? Is it the opposite of what is flowing through the windings? In an air core coil (or any coil really) isnt the space outside the conductor just as important as the conductor itself? One being the opposite of the other?

[darkwizard]

Ren, the core slows the magnetic flux, and remains charged with magnetic momentum. That is the reason of the delay, the problem of phase.