How to gain Extra Energy from a pulsed Coil

[theremart]

fixing the problem with melting reed switches...

I have found that using a relay with the reed switch works fairly well.

I have been trying KT services setup with a reed switch and it has a VIOLET light arcing across inside. It seems with my setup, when I use razor blades they work well for a while then the carbon builds up on them and they are useless. I was reading someone from overunity commented about building a custom relay that uses graphite for one of the poles, but I have no clue how one would do that. He said the back spike is bigger if you do that on your relay.

Not sure why my solid state relay is not working for me in KTservices schematic...

Konehead says the military has reed switches that can do 100 amps.... hard to find thou.

[Joit]

Hm, Graphite can be found as Mine from Pencils,
the one for Craftsman even have bigger Mines.
I bet they match perfect into a Spring from a Ballpen

[boguslaw]

Listen friends


Answer the questions below and you will find the correct answer I hope:

Is output current from transformer secondary the same one which is put on primary , just with different parameters : amps, volts etc ?

How does it relate to single coil ?

Do magnetic fields couple with each other ?

[Joit]

Listen friends


Answer the questions below and you will find the correct answer I hope:

Is output current from transformer secondary the same one which is put on primary , just with different parameters : amps, volts etc ?

How does it relate to single coil ?

Do magnetic fields couple with each other ?

Hi boguslaw
About a Magnet as core, its usual not better then other Material.
I tried it once, and did not give good Results.
I think it is, because the Magnetfield from core is allways the same, and dont switch or switch hard.
For Induction you need a Field at the Core what changes between N and S.

Output from a Transformer should be the the same, just different Amps/Volts.
but mostly you have losses from eddy current at the Iron or any other Core,
the 'perfect' Transformer is made with against eachother isolated Sheets.

How it relates to a single Coil is a good Point.
When you push the same Current throught the Coil 2 Times, then you still got a Field in from the first Round of Current.
The Current cross the Field a second Time, and increase the Total output
from the Delay.
Current build Flux around the Wire, when it runs through,
and usual is first the Field build, and then the Current run throught.
Magnetfields align or repel eachother, depends of her Poles.
Maybe we should do a new Kind of a Coil, that the Effect increase more.

But i placed the Switch onto the Circuit for to make a Break of the Circuit and gain BEMF. The Diode should lead even this Current back through the Coil.
That way it works like a Hydraulic Ram.
Hydraulic ram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But i ve seen a increase even with just place one Diode across the Coil.
and 2 worked even better at the Triggercoil at a Bedini.
But it dont works at the Powercoil what is at the 'Plusside' of the Circuit. There i need a Diode for outlet.

[boguslaw]

Most of the older laws was taken from consideration of simple questions.

Simple question is like this :

Is transformer output current the same as input one ?

You SAID that output current is in some relative position to the input one, but the question is even simpler.

Is the output current a NEW one or the same as input with just a modified parameters ?


Consideration : IF output current is completely NEW current just put in relation with input current by some of nature law (or just and effect?) then HOW far it is bound to that law ? If magnetic field collapse produce NEW current how important it may be ?
I know that two permanent magnets may be put into relation to create more powerful magnet (not the sum of power of two but anyway a stronger one)
The same is true for permanent magnet and electromagnet.

What if a composite magnetic field collapse ? Or scratch that question and ask : why John Bedini is trying to convince us that his circuits are not the same as an impulse chargers ? Is he mad or knows something ?

I don't state that I know anything, I just asked myself that simple question and still has no final answer , but I have now my eyes widely open anyway...

[Joit]

Ok, got you, i think

According to the Electricitytheories, it is the same.
But we know, Current build first up a Force, to break through the Lead.
So, the Current, what comes in at one End is not the same, what comes out at the other End.
You know this Tool, where one Ball swings at the left Side of a Row of 6 other, and at the right Side only the last move away?
when you push 2 balls at one end, at the other Side 2 Balls are pushed away.
That is, what you call kinetic Energy.
And its for me the same with Current.
You push into one End from Lead the Balls, and the same Ammount flows away at the other End.
At a transformer the Parameters change because of the thickness from the 'Tube'.

I think you can make the same with this Tool
Change the half from this 6 Balls at one Side with Balls, what have only the half Size from the Balls at the other side,
that you have total 3 Balls left, and 6 Balls right with half Size
then, when you push 1 Ball left Side, at the right side will fly double that much away, as you push at left side.

So, Current is not the same, or made new, it looks like more, its bound to the EM force,
and by moving this Field, it moves Electrons at the other End.
Someone mentioned once( even a technical Person) that Electrons are sometimes in a Generator created, so, posible, that some of the Current is new.
And all parts are bounded to the Force, so move them will allways need an amount of Force.
When a composite Field collapse, you create a unbalanced Field, and Current tend allways to go there, where the lesser Potential is.
We got a disscussion about that in Aromaz research Group.

The Bedini system is different, because it dont only breaks the Current,
like conventional Systems do.
it still use the Current from the Back emf, and adding it into the System.
Plus, it using the radiant field around from the Magnet.
And another advantage, it decharge the Minusside from Charge into the Circuit, so you get a more balanced Potential at the Charge, as only push Electrons at one Side of a Batterie and bload one Side up.

And when the Magnetfield collapse, and Back Emf appears, you have no opposite Force for that, the Current happens in only one Direction.
Well, maybe you have a Force, but till now, none did measure one yet.
Maybe this Page is interesting for you too.

[boguslaw]

I think you are wrong but I cannot prove it. At least one person admitted that he got measurable extra power from similar effect. It was Steven Mark, when describing TPU.

If two magnetic fields become one how can you or the Force differentiate which one collapse should generate back emf ?

[Joit]

Umm, wrong where?

When you use a switch you collapse the Whole Field, not only one from it.
Its like a big Pressure at one Point, what is released.
The Diode is only to lead the Pulse back into the Circle.

[boguslaw]

Umm, wrong where?

When you use a switch you collapse the Whole Field, not only one from it.
Its like a big Pressure at one Point, what is released.
The Diode is only to lead the Pulse back into the Circle.

Ok, then I misunderstood your words :
"When a composite Field collapse, you create a unbalanced Field, and Current tend allways to go there, where the lesser Potential is.
We got a disscussion about that in Aromaz research Group."

I also think that whole field collapses , the original one created by input current and a coupled one if properly positioned.

[Guest]

Now, try to add extra rounds to your coils and compare efficiency. Turns out the more rounds you use the higher efficiency you get ... Simple yet not widely known.

[Joit]

Now, try to add extra rounds to your coils and compare efficiency. Turns out the more rounds you use the higher efficiency you get ... Simple yet not widely known.

No, not that simple.
And i did try it allready before.

Gauss, why dont you make a own Thread, where make the Plans for all Free Energy devices,
because it seems you are so smart, that you have the Knowledge of the Universe.
You can give anywhere one from your smart Comments, what Peoples 'Should do', but mostly you are wrong.
Peoples here waiting for the Plans, would be an easy Thing for you, to show one and give a simple Explanation, how they can build a Device.

So, make your own Thread, and show a Plan
but please stop posting in this Thread.
I dont need someone, who does only theorise, but have no practical Clue from anything.

[darkwizard]

John Bedini circuits are ordinary circuits, back emf = radiant energy, is the same, yes the back emf is free, but you had to use current (destroy dipole) in order to produce it.

Only a pulse motor is the best choice because it delivers angular speed and back emf, the current is not used in vain.

[darkwizard]

A wall transformer uses more energy than the energy delivered in the secondary to the load , every human knows this.

[Aaron]

back emf vs potential spike

Darkwizard,

Backemf is Lenz's law and is only there when power is applied to the coil. When the coil is turned off, the magnetic field collapes and the spike that comes off is radiant.

You have applied power and the counter current against it first.
When coil is shut off, you get the inductive spike coming back second.

The coil charges slowly because the opposing back emf keeps it in check.

When turning off the coil, the loop is open so a counter current or back emf can't conduct so there is nothing slowing down the collapse and that is why it is so fast in addition to the fact that the entire universe is pushing back on the coil from all directions.

They are two very different things. This is one of the most popular misconceptions and misuse of terminology in the world of "free energy."

Like in Bedini's patent, it says it is using back emf, but that is because that is what the patent examiner will accept and not because it is back emf that is charging batteries.

This is just for clarification.

[Joit]

A wall transformer uses more energy than the energy delivered in the secondary to the load , every human knows this.

I had once a talk with an old Guy, he worked for a Company what did build transformers.
He said, that the newly build one are pretty crap, the sheets are not insulated,
and they put a weldseam across the sheets, what cause eddy currents.
Usual, there should be a brass screw through the Sheets to fix it, what is still isolated with some Plastic hull.
Then the Transformer even dont buzz.
The Transformer they build had no loss that way.
Seems, that is, what the Electronic guys says, when they wanna save Money.
"Thats not possible.."

Do you see, what is written on that old ugly Thing, what i got here?


But i think anyway, for good Coils you have to wind them by your own, maybe bifilar, maybe like a basket maybe Pancake Style, i dont know.