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  • Latch mechanisms

    They're just plywood cut with a handheld verticle saw. Version #4; quite fiddley. My bearings have a bit of give hence the little blocks to stop horizontal displacement. I used a spade drill-bit to sink the bearings into the plywood; the rest is just a nut and bolt and washers..

    Nothing physically wrong with the missus, she just fell off the deep end mentally after one too many traumatic events.

    But thankyou for your kind words, it's appreciated.

    I'm kinda scared to have the wheel working for some reason; that and I feel like if it does, there should be more pomp and ceremony like a ship's maiden voyage..

    But I'm getting ahead of myself.

    Love and light
    Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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    • Inertial engine 2.0

      Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
      They're just plywood cut with a handheld verticle saw. Version #4; quite fiddley. My bearings have a bit of give hence the little blocks to stop horizontal displacement. I used a spade drill-bit to sink the bearings into the plywood; the rest is just a nut and bolt and washers..

      Nothing physically wrong with the missus, she just fell off the deep end mentally after one too many traumatic events.

      But thankyou for your kind words, it's appreciated.

      I'm kinda scared to have the wheel working for some reason; that and I feel like if it does, there should be more pomp and ceremony like a ship's maiden voyage..

      But I'm getting ahead of myself.

      Love and light
      I hope the wife climbs back out soon. Been there myself often enough, it's no fun.
      I made a video of my first impact device. You inspired it so you'll understand it anyway. Here's the video

      Here are a few pics:
      This is the starting (reset) position.



      Here is the weight starting to go through the "gate".



      And here is the impact position.



      It drops and hits pretty good. I made the first stop out of wood and it split the arm off on the first drop. I wound up welding a couple of pieces of angle iron together and putting a rubber bumper on it to cushion the impact.
      I like this design because it's simple and self resetting. It'll take a few days to complete the rest of the mechanisms. We'll see what happens.



      Ted

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      • Goinf off the deep end, a solution

        @Inquorate:
        the missus, she just fell off the deep end mentally
        The brain goes into desperation mode when certain nutrients -and especially sufficient oxygen- are in low supply. An excellent product would help her very much, called Oxy-Nectar, available at a very reasonable & low price from VitaGlo.com Atkins, NOW Vitamins, EAS, Protein Low Prices & FREE* Shipping!.

        Stress causes smart people to burn through oxygen faster. I hope you try it. I found it in 2004. I was having pre-cancerous nasal polyps, took the product, soon after they dried up like a stepped-on garden hose and blew away.

        It pumps the IQ a bit also.

        @Ted: Nice work Ted. Very nice.
        Last edited by CloudSeeder; 04-17-2009, 12:01 AM.

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        • I hope your wife get well soon Ben.

          I have a bit more success applying both of your method, your first simulation and pendulum hit. The wheel turn 6 time before it exhausted.


          The video take too long to upload today, maybe tomorrow.

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          • about wheel bearings plus air is lighter than wood

            Modern wheel bearings are fantastic, especially the ones used in skateboards, And yet we should remember always to reserve space to never forget the Total Weight of these Gravity Wheels is pulling DOWN. So despite how much as we love to think in terms of theoretical equal dispensation of the weight all around the bearings, perhaps that is not quite true.

            Wood is heavy but glue-soaked and pressed plywood is heavier. The weight of that wood pulls down collectively against the bearings as they circulate and move around taking turns at being top dead center of the hub at which position the bearing there from moment-to-moment is taking the brunt of downward force, "swapping out" if you will.

            So when one of us gets 6 revolutions we come down to nitty-gritty time where this weight upon the top bearings could be combining with the inertia of the wood inside the pendulum weight's diameter (that does not want to move as Inertia works both ways and it is only turning by being acted on by the pendulum weights' "outside force").

            It would be interesting if some large triangle cuts were made equally around and see if that doesn't put the wheel into continuous motion. I understand that would cause Wind Drag from turbulence so the cuts should probably be covered with hard plastic or otherwise filled with something that would maintain the former smooth surface.

            They cut out spaces in car rims. Bicycles using spokes hold a lot of air between the spokes. Solid wooden wheels were used in 13th century oxcart wheels. Wheel designers stopped doing that for good reasons that might be helpful to our various designs if we copy them. Both of my designs I'm presently working up will be stripped of as much inner weight as possible, allowing the momentum force of the outer rim to exercise more of a stabilizing continuous movement by its weight, the other side of Inertia.

            I will say this though => I like plywood too. I like its look, its smell, its lines. Interrupting that is a crime I imagine we all feel. It's just dead weight in some places for what we're trying to do. Give the cutout pieces to the kids to play with? Works for me.
            Last edited by CloudSeeder; 04-17-2009, 03:16 PM.

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            • It seems all I can do is watch here, so keep up the good work guys .

              Here is the video:

              Failed result:
              YouTube - Gravity wheel simulation, swing and catch concept
              YouTube - Benjamin "Inquorate" Brandwood gravity wheel concept, pendulum hit energy

              better result:
              YouTube - Inquorate gravity wheel tweak and hit concept, almost a success
              Last edited by sucahyo; 04-20-2009, 06:03 AM.

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              • @Sucahyo:
                Your first video contains a good lesson, that springs are eating up the energy.
                The 3rd video you have the pendulums optimistically swinging almost forever.

                Very good work, good effort, we learn.

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                • stumbling along

                  I would like to again state, that it seems important to me, to lift a weight on the down turning side of the wheel (and yes, I am aware that it sounds nutz).

                  I have in a previous posting tried to find a way, how this can be achieved, namely by an outward swinging pendulum getting in contact with a piece of material/ramp, so that the pendulum is forced to lift its on weight upward (slightly) - regardless of the fact that it is on the downward turning side of the wheel.

                  I am not the one who came up with this idea.
                  I remember a thread on another forum, where a guy - seemingly smelly but sincere - compared the characteristics of a gravity wheel to how bipedes (=organisms which move on 2 feet) walk.
                  He convinced me, that our way of walking is distinguished by the fact, that the centre of gravity of our bodies always remains above the "axis" (for the the 'axis of walking' please refer to the photo below).
                  He was trying to point out, that 'every step we take' resembles a falling/cascading motion, "stumbling" over a staight leg (please read "leg" = "vertically standing pendulum").
                  While learning to walk, toddlers fall down, until they finally master the art to have the next foot al-ready in front, so that they cascade over this next foot, and the next, and the next .... instead of falling down on their knees.

                  The two images which I used to create the following overlay are taken from
                  Da Vinci - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                  and
                  http://www.orffyre.com/Weissenstein1.jpg


                  The correspondence of the angles in the two pictures is just a coincidence?

                  CloudSeeder recommended to me, that I should connect the two mirrored pendulums on the right and one on the left of the wheel from my previous posting with a kind of see saw.
                  In the meantime I realize that this linking see saw should at the same time perform the function of the torso/body.
                  That is to say: The body linking the pendulums should represent the weight that is lifted up by the outward swinging pendulum.
                  Lifted by the pendulum when it meets the ramp.

                  Keep well, including the missuses.

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                  • skip to next
                    Last edited by CloudSeeder; 04-18-2009, 12:15 PM.

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                    • @Marxist: Those are good points. Whereas a pendulum as a creation of man is stationary ~only moving in space when mounted on a wheel of course~ it is like you say that the man's "hip girdle" and leg are like that pendulum picture, so walking is like stumping the pendulum, forcing the top of it to fall over, making the remainder of the pendulum-connected mechanism (the rest of our body) to fall forward (walking). Where your "linking see saw should at the same time perform the function of the torso/body" = flexible hip girdle (horizontal bones arranged in midsection torso area).

                      To attain mobility the pendulum has to commit a suicidal act. Just like you said, very interesting, and also probably not so much coincidence. The inventors, scientists, discoverers of previous centuries knew their stuff (including Johann Bessler)... and they made it to within mere fractions of an inch of where we are now trying to place the football.

                      I would like to add a thought here too, that when the pendulum is irrationally directed upward by your graduated-to-steep ramp it is ADDING TO the pendulum's downward force at bottom dead center it just passed through, which is then a "one-two punch". The THIRD PUNCH IS WHEN IT DROPS. By adding your ramp you have added not one but two extra strikes of the mallet! not to be forgetting that in linking the other pendulum weight on the opposite side you have managed to double the effectiveness of everything but the initial pendulum force. In other words you sly dog you, you increased the size of the mallet by pulling a TRICK.

                      Which I don't mind reminding was something I said early on, that to win this thing you HAVE TO CHEAT WHEREVER POSSIBLE, and that was exactly what you have figured a way to do. Back in November 2000 I made a new type of windmill that did not spin <> it reciprocated back and forth. I connected the two arms so that when the Wind pulled one arm back the connecting rod ("hip girdle") would pull the other side back forward, in effect "reloading" it. It was a cheater bar, something I used as a flatbed driver. Eventually I would make a website in 2003 and put pictures up my son made for me => Wind Engine AI.

                      Since that time I have made many other devices and engines much more powerful than the Wind Engine and yet... they also use some really innovative cheats. Cheats that were so good not many people could understand why they would work. This isn't the place to go into them... but what I really love about the Gravity Wheels is that they are so simple #1 unlike my many previous complicated-to-build devices I can build them, thereby #2 voiding the problem that people can't vision them "in their Mind's eye".

                      When people watch these Gravity Wheels turning they aren't required to extrapolate anything. What I like about the overlay picture you made is that what a lot of these pendulum-using Gravity Wheels are doing is moving the pendulum -and the man- from the center to the outside rim where they do more than stand directing traffic. Out there, replicated around the wheel's center, they do the Work, they are the "traffic".

                      The Bipedal organism is then a 100% failure as a pendulum yet still pendulum, the life-possessing borrowing from the lifeless to attain mobility.

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                      • Taking that a Little Further

                        To take that a little further, the step from lifeless to Life shows us that some things done in the lifeless realm have to be reversed to make Life possible and for Life to use them. The philosopher and "Great Thinker" Michio Kaku is searching even now for the "Theory of Everything". Well, one thing he is likely going to find, my belief, is a similar reversal, that the step from what happens on a planet is sometimes reversed off planet in Outer Space.

                        Simple stuff, as simple as a Gravity Wheel, but extremely necessary, for each
                        step must have to include reversing what the previous step used and verified.
                        To understand the universe's laws we have to be willing to accept that.
                        For us here to succeed we have to be just that pliable,
                        willing to throw what we know down a mine shaft.

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                        • Marxist Made a Heavier Pendulum Possible

                          The innovative cheats Marxist has employed makes it possible to use slightly heavier pendulum weights,which if I'm not mistaken is what many on Peter's thread have favored all along. With just a few continuing qualifications that more of the pendulum's weight be in the upper end of the pendulum + the pendulum be a telescoping spring-loaded "shock absorber".

                          Which in Auto Parts parlance would be "the cheaper shock absorber". It's possible that for these applications some very much smaller shock absorbers could be found on riding lawnmowers or other smaller devices or exercise equipment, such as a stepper. I had a 1989 Oldsmobile wagon til recently. The back window used small air-loaded pistons. Most hatchbacks have them.

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                          • All of which works together to prove what Dr. Peter Lindemann who started this thread has held all along, the using of heavy pendulums. We should not forget that => Peter was right and held to his guns. He carried the Bessler gauntlet til some new people came along and helped fill in some missing pieces THAT PETER KNEW WERE THERE .

                            New people like Ted Ewert with his fine work now in developing/building stages coming along great and Michael Nunnerley, albeit about to be caught inside numerous cam mechanisms; Redeagle, Sucahyo and Inquorate plus then Marxist and myself, not always every single one of us seeing eyeball-to-eyeball but, that was also necessary to get to this point => => staring at the cliff face we are about to run up the side of.

                            Apologies to any whose name I left out.
                            Last edited by CloudSeeder; 04-18-2009, 02:37 PM. Reason: Staring at the cliff face we are about to run up the side of.

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                            • Great Speeches!

                              Boy I sure can make great speeches sometimes. I can hear you guys cringe. Actually, since Marxist tied the pendulum to the opposing pendulum (for raising the #2 pendulum up closer to the hub on the ascending side)... the individual pendulum weights can actually be made slightly lighter, the twosome combination fulfilling the

                              HEAVIER THAT PETER KNEW WAS NEEDED .

                              Whew.
                              Last edited by CloudSeeder; 04-18-2009, 03:12 PM.

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                              • Marxist

                                @Marxist: In light of previous post... try making your wheel without using the spring-loaded shocks. Just work with the pendulum weight + pendulum weight distribution + the angle of your takeoff ramp. Three variables is a tough enough equation.

                                You may very well be able to avoid the
                                pendulum springs to get it running.

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