Newman Motor

[Joit]

Hi Elias,
What can i say. The most i did, been not over 100% also.
I could make it one Time, that it showed the charging Effect,
where it runs 12 Hours at the same Speed.
It was more like, that it settled at a low RPM, maybe ~100.
The other attemps been all with different Coils and winding directions.
Even, do i make the first winding clockwise and then go left or right.
It seems like there is only one Combination for me right.

But thats why i wrote the Mail, to maybe get more Information about it.
He also mentioned that he use the right hand Rule,
The other thing is, to set the Commutator right, and here in this case,
even make more Interruptions, the Spikes what do appear should be mainly negative,
to charge the Batterie in that way as in the Shots from JNaudin.
Maybe you can have a different also when you try to connect the Coil otherwise,
usual Plus should be the inner End of the Coil, but not sure, if it is importend.
A other Aspect is still the duty Cycle, maybe you change something at the time, where it has a connection.
What Commutator do you use actually, one with one connection per revolution or more?

To sad, i can do not much at the moment, a lot things do break, what i need to fix,
then i dont have the wire what i want use, aso. Not my lucky days at the moment.

[elias]

Thanks Jolt for the info.
I built the Newman motor an electronic circuit, with PWM. Many interruptions per second, and shorting via a diode. At the moment I am busy with a variation of a muller generator, I will update if I do more tests.

[Joit]

Hi,
Well, i dont know how it works with a PWM, i hope you did run it with a seperate Source.
Else the Spike may go back through the PWM and whereelse.
A Transistor seems even to surpess the Sparks and thats why you got a Switch
what dont disturbs any other Devices at the Enviroment.
Thats maybe a clean way, but i dont think it does work for this Case.
I actually dont wanna use Electrical Parts for a Newman machine,
I still think, it will bring the Bemf back into a Area, where i dont want it to have.

[elias]

Hi Joit

I built a commutator. It made the system very noisy and it was not so precise it also became burnt out after running for about an hour or so. Thus I decided to go all electronic. I will post my schematics if you want. The circuit I built was made of four mosfets, each pair charged the coil in one direction. Two hall sensors, and two ir2113 mosfet drivers which have a high side as well as a low side, I used fast uf4007 doides also, with a PWM circuit + a nor IC to switch the PWM on or off. It worked really good, and I was getting good torque. I suspect that I needed to get more windings for the motor, so I abandoned the project for a Muller type generator I had left wondering on my shelf.
I am going to go with IGBTs, with much voltage rating for higher reliability in the future.

Take care
Elias

[elias]

Another thing. Newman is 100% right when he talks about the atoms being responsible for the magnetic field and not the current, because when you increase your windings the magnetic field strength remains the same, but the current draw drops, the ONLY drawback is that as you increase the windings the back emf of the rotor goes up and the rotor loses its speed, thus the power output comes down. So what can be done about this? I presume that when you increase the resistance of the wire so much then the magic is seen, when the current draw is very low less than a miliamp. I think that you'd better increase the resistance of the wire to more than 10K to see any Newman effect, or Even 100k, with finer wire. mine was less than 1K and that may be why I haven't seen COP>1, because I was still drawing much current. I can confirm the fact that when I doubled my windings from 300 ohms to about 600 ohms the efficiency of the motor went up from 25% to about 80% when using 300 volts on the input. So I think that there is hope for the Newman machine.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Teds latest christmas newman motor inspired me to take another look at the newman motors. I am building a smaller motor using packing tape cardboard rolls for the coil formers as seen in the pic, which are 3" inner diameter.
Magnets are 1" diameter X 1/8" thick, have 8 stacked on each side of shaft.
I'm going to use 18 awg magnet wire so I can use a lower voltage.
Main intention is to achieve the self charging effect while running a load such as a small fan for cooling.
Another reason I am building this, is because of the fact that this motor geometry is very different from a normal motor and it allows the collapsing spike to blossom, whereas when placing a magnet in front of a motor coil, it is diminished or canceled. Also other effects that may happen in this design are of interest as well, as if self charging is not enough.
Here is a pic so far of the rotor and shaft, with Jb weld still drying on one side, i notice jb weld may be magnetic, it seems to attract to the neo magnets.
Also, a pic from newmans book about the canceling effect with normal magnet in front of coil compared to newmans geometry.
Any comments on this canceling aspect and/or my setup so far are welcome.


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peace love light
tyson

[frenky]

When building Newmans motors one should look at the Naudins work:
The Newman's Energy Machine tested by JL Naudin

I've build my version some years ago and have found best results with:
- high voltage
- very strong magnets
- use as many short pulses as you can
- comutator that sparks
- heavy flywheel (i used lead Pb inside of wheels)

https://picasaweb.google.com/kfrenky/NewmansMotor

[uusedman]

Hello guys/gals:

Whenever the Newman motors pops up and I have great interest. It was the Newman motor who opened my eyes to the FE field and research. Also, the Newman requires almost none electronic skills and somewhat intuitive building knowledge to constructing your first Newman motor.

These, I believe, are the fundamentals for a successful Newman replications:

A. Extremely long wire

B. The lower the gauge the better in restricting current, since magnetic flux is based on Voltage and NOT current. I used 30 and 32 guage.

C. Bifilar- coils! The motor coil should be the lower gauge. The generating coil should be according to what capacitors or batteries you are trying to recover to. You can generate to the initial source of income.

D. HV Capacitor, it is a must or you wont be able to recover the Sharp spike.

E. Flywheel. Almost all FE devices must have weight to conserve the Angular momentum. Too Big won't work, too small wont be sufficient.

F. Short DC Pulse and numerous. Inductance, as Dr. Peter Lindemann says, "The on and off inductance must be related." Meaning that the on and off pulses to the coil must be so fast that the inductance of the coil does change so much. This idea is hard to implement in the Newman motor since you will not be getting speeds of the Bedini or Lindemann Motor.

G. Lead-Acid battery. Dry cell wont work in this motor, they may explode, be carefull.

The points listed is what I believe are essential in the Newman motor. I might be wrong, however, all these points are dervieded personally through trial and error work of R & D.

Peace and love.


P.S. Also, The Newman motor can be a weather machine. If you have a big motor you can effect the weather around you. I have yet to verify this last point, however, the plans of building such a motor are a replica of a Newman motor. Facing the motor in a certain way will yield weather results.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi uusedman, thanks for sharing the information tips.
So have you or anyone else built a newman motor that exhibited the self recharging effects, which is the goal.
My main point of interest is about the pic i posted that shows how a typical motor suppresses the motor spike compared to newmans design.
Can you or anyone offer their thoughts about this aspect, thanks.
peace love light
tyson

[frenky]

Hi.

I got the most impressive result when I used wrinkled aluminium foil on the rotor commutator touching copper wire while rotating. Sometimes the spike I got back had over 300% more energy than pulse in, but this was not repeatable due to the inconsistent surface of wrinkled aluminium foil.

JL Naudin managed to run it off the capacitors for five minutes.
The Self-Running demo of the Newman's Machine v2.0

But the capacitors in his circuit did not have enough high voltage rating to collect whole spike. If he used the HV capacitors IMHO he would have a self-runner...

[Joit]

Hi Skywatcher,
Sorry for beeing late, but i would go for the same Design like Ted did.
He has Magnets, what cover the whole Wideness from the Coil, and the Coil is allways close at the Magnets.
Maybe even a square Coil would be better, but the Coil get maybe full Induction.
The Spikes what you see at this Scope from the Paper is from a Special Commutator from Newman.
Zero Volt is there, when the Magnet stands along the Coil.
The Peak is, when the Magnet is 90° to the Coil. You only need to make a Comutator, what breaks few times before the Peak.

[ashtweth]

Hi Joit and ALL

Has every one seen Ravzz version ? (hint hint)
YouTube - ‪Ravi - Newman Motor Generator Trials 001‬‏

[Joit]

Ash,
Not this one, where he killed his Meter, lol.
But i allready poped few from my Batteries from the Spikes,
and that means, they been overcharged. And i know, this Thing works,
you only need to play a bit around with it, till you know, what you need to do on it.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, thanks for all the information and tips.
Hi ash, I watched that video, what is the commutation switching? looks like hes just touching the wires to the shaft. Not sure what exactly the video was intending to show, except high voltage.

I'm working on winding the coils, had to use 24 gauge instead, since I don't have much 18 awg left.
I'm making a more typical newman style setup since teds christmas design is to limiting, can't see rotor, can't remove rotor without unwinding all that coil.
peace love light
tyson

[Joit]

He might has a Tape on it.
But reminds me, that you should try a adjustable Commutator,
where you can change the Duty cycle, like a Disc with a triangle-shaped notch or masked with Tape or like on this Shaft, a Tape,
but what has a different Size from the Gap along the Length.