Newman Motor

[eternalightwithin]

I just have a thought spark in my head. These Newman motors look a lot like Bedini's Window motors. Like the one Ren did.

Lots of copper mass, wrapped the same way, and armature poking through the middle.

[Joit]

They do indeed, i think J. Bedini did work out the Concept, even when there is a lot different with the Control.
Newmans motor collect the sparks each few degree with his comutator,
an other Time, he use only a Switch at 90° from OT and only mechanical.
J. Bedini has 2 Coils or 3, and control them over a Comutator, collect it with Caps.
But both Motors are great Things, when you have the Equipment to build them well.

[uusedman]

I just put my Newman to work (134 Volts). The battery source is dry cell 9V units. I am going to try to buy some lead acid batteries because dry cell will only dry up through time and give results respective to their abilities.

I remember in one of Joseph Newman videos that a reporter did put dry cells to run the motor and they got charged up while running the motor. Does anyone remember this video?

I can feel the spikes, literally! I get shocked when I closed the circuit with my hands. So, now we need to see how to collect them.

[elias]

100000 turns of 0.05 mm diameter wire

Hi,

I remember building a coil of 100,000 turns about two years ago. The wire diameter I used was 0.05 mm, pretty small hairlike wire, which I could not wind them manually so I gave it to a machine shop and they wound it for me, the coil was pretty small also, about 5cm diameter, and 3cm height. Well as the wires were so fragile I did not handle it well, and I lost my coil, but I can say this:

The coil resistance was about 100Kohms, and I drove it with 500V of voltage, by a hand made inverter. I did not understand then that the total magnetic field of 100,000 turns of a type of wire equals 1 turn of the same wire at the same voltage, so I did not experiment with that, but I can say that with 500V at 5mA which is 2.5W I did get good magnetic power to make a high RPM motor. It blasted the magnet away when I connected to 500V.

This thread has motivated me to get some wire and build a coil like that and experiment a bit.

So Newman says that the more copper one uses in the motor the more efficient the motor becomes, no? so there must be a threshold at which the motor reaches unity. I wonder if we can calculate the number of turns of wire to achieve this. At least the heat generated will be less, and the motor will run cooler as the number of turns increases.

As the number of turns increases the magnetic field remains the same, the heat output of the coil decreases linearly, and the current consumption decreases linearly too. so this is interesting.

I always knew that high voltage and low current runs efficient but I did not assume that it will make it go over-unity.

Theoretically one can make the electromagnet consume no current and operate only with voltage by using "infinite" number of turns, and infinite voltage.

I have never understood how do the electrical unit of Watt relate to the mechanical unit of Watt as the former is Volts*Amperes, and the latter is Joules per second. Or in other words how do mechanical energy and electrical energy relate to each other.

If the turns of wire is the key to an efficient motor design not the wire gauge, one way to see this is to build a mini Newman motor with the smallest wire possible with the most number of turns such as 100,000 or more and see if the motor produces more mechanical energy than the "electrical energy" consumed.

Anyone has any ideas?

Elias

[patmac]

elias

Appearently this motor may be able run on discharged batteries and recharge it meanwhile make mechanical work only by switching adjusting (recovery?) but incredibly currend generated by the magnet is near to current consummed.

[uusedman]

YouTube - Bedini-Newman Hybrid 5-1

My latest video innovation.

[uusedman]

Hello everyone,

I would like someone to replicate the latest innovation to the Bedini-Newman Hybrid.

From the the Bedini motor collect the spikes into a HV ceramic caps, which will equate to about 360 Volts (500V 1.0K ceramic). From the HV caps the Newman Motor took off BECAUSE the Newman principals are on volts and not current, which is perfect for our ceramic caps.

What is weird is that when the Newman motor is being load on the HV Caps the Neon bulbs on the Bedini are still being lit up meaning there is more energy to be recycled!

[eternalightwithin]

Question:

Trying to figure out what wire size to use. Thinking on going with 41,000 feet of 28awg.

Question is, what is BEMF composed of? high voltage or high current, both?

Say I put 1000 volts and 0.1mA through the coil, BEMF will be huge! Because of thin wire, will this vaporize the coil at some point along the line as the BEMF is forming? Or is BEMF "cold electricity"?

DAvid

[elias]

Question:

Trying to figure out what wire size to use. Thinking on going with 41,000 feet of 28awg.

Question is, what is BEMF composed of? high voltage or high current, both?

Say I put 1000 volts and 0.1mA through the coil, BEMF will be huge! Because of thin wire, will this vaporize the coil at some point along the line as the BEMF is forming? Or is BEMF "cold electricity"?

DAvid

Hi David,

My 100,000 turn coil with 0.05mm wire which is the smallest wire on the market, and it can be graded as AWG #40 or so, I was impressed at the magnetic power when pulsed with 500 volts. But don't count on the back spike so much, It is high on voltage but very low in power and it is not so heavy so to speak, to charge your batteries, but it may be able to charge some caps. I regret losing my coil, now, because I could do some more tests with it as I now understand what Newman was talking about, which makes complete sense. I am not sure about the E = mc2 claim of Mr Newman, but I am sure that magnetic energy is "free" and our minuscule knowledge has made us think that it is not.


Elias

[uusedman]

Question:

Trying to figure out what wire size to use. Thinking on going with 41,000 feet of 28awg.

Question is, what is BEMF composed of? high voltage or high current, both?

Say I put 1000 volts and 0.1mA through the coil, BEMF will be huge! Because of thin wire, will this vaporize the coil at some point along the line as the BEMF is forming? Or is BEMF "cold electricity"?

DAvid

Very important that you used a HV ceramic cap with about 5 - 10 AMPs. It is high voltage that is being collapsed, that thin wire's resistance is resonable high therefore the current will be a minimal. In order to minimize the loss in the BEMF process, you must try to open and close the circuit numerous times on each polarity. So when you have the North pole attracting or repelling, you must create a square wave to optimize the gain and minimize the lose in the BEMF. The collapsed energy will be much greater then the minimal loss at the BEMF. As Dr. Lindemann mentioned on the Newman motor is that it must run on low speeds in order to show its benefit.

[eternalightwithin]

I could do all that you said (makes sense) but use bigger wire. More copper atoms and larger diameter = less resistance. I think I will try for 100k turns with 28-30AWG.
MagnetwireUSA.com seems to have good prices. Anyone know cheaper? Bad time to buy copper. I was looking at the metals index the other day and just a year ago copper was like 80% cheaper than nowadays.

DAvid

[Joit]

MagnetwireUSA.com seems to have good prices. Anyone know cheaper?
DAvid

Old or newer old E- Motors :P
There are a lot of good Wires in, 2 Coils mostly each.

I used for my Motor some thicker Wires too, to much thin Wires have not much amps at the Spikes,
so i think even ~28-25, or even 24 are ok too.

But i found much #30 Wires at the Waterpump from Washers, they
are ok, so far they are not ingrained in Plastic, or probatly Ebay,
sometimes they sell a whole Reel very cheap.

And sorry uusedman, i didnt have the time to rebuild mine right now.

[ray0.e]

the circuit

No, not BEMF recovery uusedman.

He is using a neon bulb to illustrate the high voltage spikes and recovery process.

In one of his videos, he re-cycles and charges 'dead' phone batteries, using the circuit he descibes and illustrates.

I think the Newman motor merits far more research than people realize. Good Luck!

hello to all i got a lot of mail from people at you tube.
about the circuit and if i can sent them one.

here is sam basic to more advance circuits that i have uset over the time.

1e i want to say that my newman motors only ar Newman COILs
the pulse circuit that only pluse N or S so only one pulse per cycle

Newman use 2 pluse per cycle N-S but in a trigger form so not direct AC it wil turn but whit no tork

so for beginners its best to start whit one pulse per cycle or (mono plulse) circuits

thes circuit ar all mono pulse circuit. semi block diagram!!
i only u 2n3055 transistor (rock solit ) the resitor u have to play
whit 100 to 470 om 1watt .. i dont calculate so muts i just feel if it get hot

[Joit]

HI there
The last Days i wrote a Mail to J. Newman about his Motor
and get some usefull Hints.

Here is the Text


> My Questions now are following.
> Does it need this lot of Wire, to get the charging Effect,


--

The more wire, the greater effect. Why? Because you are literally releasing electromagnetic energy from the atomic domains of the copper conductor each time you align those copper atoms with input VOLTAGE (and the lower the current the better!). That is totally opposite to the way conventional motor operate -- with HIGH current and LOW voltage. The Newman machine works best with as LOW current as possible and HIGH voltage (up to maximum atom alignment in the conductor coil) --- once you have the maximum atoms aligned, then more voltage will NOT help. That is why -- contrary to conventional motors -- all of Joseph Newman's motor/generators run COOL. Actually, the Newman energy machine is NOT a motor and it is NOT a generator..... it is BOTH, simultaneously. It produces output energy AND output mechanical torque.

>
> Does it need 2 Coils, where one Coil is the drive Coil
> and the other is connected to a load, or shorted with a resistance between?


He has used one coil. But there are endless possible configurations based upon the principles he teaches.

>
> Does it need this special Commutator, what interrupts, shorts and turn Polarity from the Coil?


Yes -- the commutator is the heart of the system. When input voltage is interrupted, that instantly causes the electromagnetic field to collapse and KICKS OUT some excess energy in the process. Some people say that copper is non-magnetic. Those who do say so are deceived. Copper is EXTREMELY MAGNETIC --- but only when input voltage is applied. As soon as the input voltage is removed, the atomic domains un-align.

>
> My Rebuilds did only closely work so far, they dropped very slowly with the Voltage,
> but some had some good Torque.
> I made a Commutator, what did only connect once at about 90° or 120° per Revolution,
> and, surprisingly, one Time, i could make a little Motor with about 800 Turns of Wire,
> what did keep 8x1,5V Batteries charged, and where i did hang a shear as a load on the Shaft.
> That are few Things what do confuse me a bit, why it did work.


The more time you can create the breaks/short-outs/etc. in a given commutator, the more energy you can extract per revolution. And the more VOLTAGE you apply the faster it can operate. Remember, it is not voltage that costs money --- it is CURRENT.


Thanks for your sincere interest in the energy machine technology and supportive comments! See the videos below which demonstrate an automobile powered by this technology.

There is extensive information contained in Joseph Newman's book, THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN with signed Affidavits from physicists and engineers who have endorsed the technology. The video below features a CBS-affiliate interview with Dr. Roger Hastings who ENDORSES THE TECHNOLOGY ON THE AIR -- live, and was broadcast on the television. Perhaps you can locate a copy of Joseph Newman's fundamental book via the inter-library loan system, assuming your local library does not have a copy.

As I believe you understand, this invention is a total alternative to fossil fuel as an energy source. At this time Joseph Newman is working hard to bring the technology into production. And, considering the escalating costs of fossil-fuel energy, it can't happen soon enough!!

Also, check out this website:

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Here is the Rebuild from Jnaudin
The Newman's Energy Machine tested by JL Naudin

where an Interesting Part is here at the new Commutator.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NMac0629.htm
He do use more Segments, and the Spikes show negative Current,
wich charges the Source.

Also interesting the Charging Curve.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/qm11tun.htm

It runs through the Points 1-5, where Point 1 is 0°,
and when the Magnet is aligned to the Coil.
at Point 2 is the strongest negative Curve,
where the Magnet is at 90° to the Coil.
And there is the Point also, where the Commutator starts to work.
Jnaudin mentioned, that the Commutator should be adjustable,
also he can adjust this Arms up and down, to have a smaller Duty Cycle.

He had even some positive Results, and here a list of 6 Keys
to consider. http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/NWMkeys.htm

Here is another Page of the Circuit he did use with a Transformer,
to support the High Voltage to run the Motor from 12 V.
I wanna say, that it may works like feeding it with short HV pulses,
and very less Current.

Now i wanna rebuild it again, need to make stable Shaft,
with a balanced good Mounting for the Magnets,
and a lot of 0,4mm(~#26) Wire, maybe not 3 Miles,
but much Windings as i can do.
Also need to make a Commutator what do interrupt more often,
I thought about maybe 8 Times and with a small duty cycle.

And maybe someone else can find something usefull with this Informations now, what are here now.

[elias]

Hi

I recently built a Newman Machine, but, I could hardly get it go above 100%. not sure, very difficult to measure precisely. But what I found out is the fact that these motors are really efficient nevertheless. Maybe I need more mass on the magnets. The only problem in Newman machine which hinders its performance, is the very high voltage induced in the coil by the rotating magnet. It could run for about two minutes off a 300V 330uF capacitor.The speed would reach upto 300RPM, and also the amount of copper used was about 14Kg. (0.5mm wire) with a total resistance of about 600ohms.

Elias