hho heater plans for sale

[roxaz]

looks like its almost opensourced now. patent is pending however, no wonder i think... check it out.
http://www.hhohhu.com/

Its on news too:
YouTube - hhohhu fox12
YouTube - HHO Home Heating Unit

[captainwho]

Thanks for the link, it's very interesting. After the initial excitement passed and after looking at their website and finding it totally devoid of any technical info at all, not even the most basic such as BTU output per electrical power used, I started to wonder how feasible it really is.

I think that if it is creating the HHO on demand and it's using electrical power from the grid to do it, that it would probably be less efficient than just a good electrical space heater. I mean why convert the electricity to HHO and then to thermal energy? Another thing that comes to mind is that to scale this up to the size flame to be suitable for a central home heating unit would probably require a tremendous amount of electrical energy and very high amperage circuits.

On the other hand, if you use solar photovoltaics to produce your electricity that powers your electrolyzer and you use the more commercial variety that separates the H from the O and store the H in a metal hydride tank, then you could probably have a practical home heating system.

The only way that I think a practical on demand HHO heater could be done is by "overunity" techniques such as Stanley Meyers. Just my 2c.

It's very interesting though and would like to know more.

[Jetijs]

how much do they want for the plans?

[wpage]

plans

how much do they want for the plans?

Here is the link...

HHOHHU

$29.99 US

[Jetijs]

Thanks
not so expensive

[roxaz]

it was on news too, check the first link for videos.

[rileydad48]

jetijs...
Could be more than the 29.99-39.99 price tag.. At the bottom left of one of the screens on their web sight it says.."all offer will have 30 day access to the plans and video library" don't know if they're download-able, but if not, you better be ready to build when you buy..

Paul

[wpage]

Oh the fine print!

Those details of fine print are no issue for Jetijs...

He will build it in a day

With improved mods!

[ashtweth]

LOL he puts the JET in Jetijs, Latvia is lucky to have him

[captainwho]

Deleted Comments on Their YouTube Channel

Hi folks,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I posted a comment on their most recent of the 3 videos a few days ago and they deleted it. It went something like this (from memory):

C'mon, could you provide some details about the unit? How many BTU's does it put out for the 452 W of input electricity? I mean you say it heats a 10ft x 10ft x 10 ft insulated cube of air. What were the starting and ending temps of the room? How much time did it take to accomplish this temperature increase? What was the R factor of the insulation? What was the heat loss of the room to it's surroundings? Or, simply what is the BTU output of the unit for the 452 W draw? If you won't provide this basic information nobody is going to take this seriously.

The comment was deleted a few days later and someone else started asking for similar information and, inexplicably their comment was not deleted. Maybe they realized they made a mistake in deleting mine, but this is suspicious behavior. Also, I then posted the comment that:

You deleted my comment asking for the BTU output of the unit. I had an open mind and was interested in this application of the technology and simply wanted some verification. Now I'm convinced that you must be scamming.

You guessed it. Comment also deleted. They do not seem above board to me. Proceed with caution.

[rickoff]

Not necessarily a scam. I know that I have read comments on my own YouTube videos and then clicked to reply, but clicked the Remove link by error. It's better to post a channel comment if you want an answer, and to never sound confrontational. From watching a video of the prototype unit YouTube - hhohhu fox12 it looks like it could work quite nicely. It's quite simple, really. The heat exchanger is basically just a circular bundle of perhaps 24 pieces of copper pipe that appears to be 3/8 to 1/2 inch inside diameter, and about 8 to 10 inches in length. There is also a larger diameter pipe, perhaps 5/8 to 3/4 inch inside diameter, inserted in the bundle directly above the central section of pipe, and this appears to be connected with a forced air duct from a fan that continuously expels the heated air out an opening in the case. The flame nozzle of the HHO output is directed, in a narrow flame, through the center of the central pipe section. Since all the pipe sections are bound together tightly, each acts as a heat sink for adjacent pipe sections. Maintaining a steady flow of air into and out of the enclosure case, using two or three computer fans, helps draw off and dissipate the heat from the bundle and circulate it in a room. You could construct a small heater using a discarded desktop computer case, which already comes with a power supply and a fan or two. An HHO unit, such as a SMACK BOOSTER, could be used for a test, with the output fed through a one way check valve, water bubbler, and a flashback arrestor, before exiting through the flame nozzle. Jetijs showed a suitable type of nozzle for a long, thin flame, in this post: http://www.energeticforum.com/16396-post27.html
Of course you would want to use a safety cutoff device that would shut down the HHO cell if the nozzle flame stopped. A conventional oil burner uses a small photocell to detect a flame (or absence of it), and would probably work fine. To ignite the HHO, perhaps a igniter for a propane gas fired barbecue would do the trick nicely. Others may have ideas on what would tend to work well for low assembly cost, so feel free to share those ideas.

I see it has been about ten months since the last post in this thread, so was wondering if any of you had done anything with this, and what your results were. I believe the plans for the prototype unit (as shown in the above linked YouTube video) are now selling for about $40, but for anyone who already has built a HHO system for automotive or HHO torch use I don't see why the plans would be needed. The HHOHHU company has a new unit (Genesis 1) which operates on 300 watts and is said to efficiently heat a 1500 square foot area. The output is said to be 130 cfm at a temperature of 125 degrees. The original prototype unit is probably not that efficient, but should still be capable of putting out some serious heat, and the cost could be relatively low. For example, a unit consuming 300 watts and running 24/7 would use 216 kilowatt hours per month. Where I live (Maine) the cost would be about $32 per month. Even if it only adequately heated the downstairs area of my 1200 square foot 2 story home, it would save me about $200 per winter month on the current cost of heating oil ($2.32 per gallon). If anyone else has done any experimenting with this method I would like to hear about the results. If not, then I may yank the SMACK BOOSTER and bubbler from my truck, build a heat exchanger bundle, and try a test. I did some torch experiments last summer along the lines of what Jetijs did with melting rocks, etc, and was quite impressed with the ability of the HHO to produce so much heat so quickly. An oxyhydrogen flame can burn at temperatures between 2,000 and 2,800 degrees, so if you can heat the copper pipe bundle without melting any of the pipes then it is easy to see how well this could work.

Rick

[Jetijs]

Hi all
A friend of mine bought those plans in the beginning of summer. I had a look at them and found nothing special about all that. Those plans do not have any special additional info other than that you can already see in the video. You just build a hho cell, power it with a computer power supply, make a hho flame and direct it in the center of a bunch of copper pipes pressed together. There is a small fan that circulates the air through those pipes, cooling them and heating the air in the same time. The heat from the power supply (as low as it might be) sums up with the heat of hho torch. That's all there is. If you are truly interested in this, you can find all the info in the video. No need to trow away the money in buying those plans.

[rickoff]

Exactly as I assumed from viewing the video. Thanks, Jetijs.

Did you by any chance try this method out?

Rick

[Jetijs]

Hi Rick,
I did not try that out, because my goal was to heat water, not air. This one heats air. Also I forgot to mention that extra heat is coming from the electrolyzer cells. The electrolyte is being pumped around the cells and a radiator. This also adds to the overall heat production
Jetijs

[rickoff]

Oh, I see. But I would think that the copper pipe bundle could be made up of pipes (other than the central one) which are joined together and have water being circulated through them. You could even make a water "coil" of one, two, or more layers by wrapping some small diameter copper tubing around the central pipe and circulating the water through a hot water tank.

Yes, the heat generated by the electrolyzer could certainly be utilized to boost circulating air or water temperature. I too thought of that but forgot to mention it in my post.

Rick