Healing properties of water

[sucahyo]

Anyway 11 cases among millions regular users would seem quite ridiculous statistically, no ?

Maybe, but in here I already used to the case where people too embarased to tell or don't care.

[Vortex]

health of the water

Healing can come from that which is healthy.
The health of the water itself, has not been addressed.

Viktor Schauberger (merlib.org) the Water Wizard. Viktor Schauberger (panacea-bocaf.org)
Water wants to be at 4 degrees C and wants to move so it can remain healthy.
If the water is kept healthy, then the water is healthy for you too.

Keeping the water healthy would require an EGG shaped container which
keeping the contents circulating and cool.

I just realized all the ancients KNEW this.
Their water vessels are egg shaped, elongated egg or heart-like shaped.
(See attached image file below)

Why on Earth would anyone create a vessel that can not stand up by itself or is unstable?
The only reason would be because they knew it was healthy.

Now how does one obtain a cheap healthy vessel, with a tap!?

Adam Ant suggested an easy experiment using two plants.
I don't have any plants .. yet.
Water one straight from the tap and water one with water that has
been microwaved for 30 seconds. This is an example of unhealthy water.

I came upon an invention by a girl that was a refrigerator made out of
basically two cans and evaporating water. It was said to kept the inner
can at 6 degrees C.
I'll have to make one and report back because I didn't save the link.
So, keeping water cool should not be an issue for anyone, anywhere.

Ref. Link:Ovals and Egg Curves
See Mechanical Egg Curve Construction seems about the easiest method.


Randy

[sucahyo]

Keeping the water healthy would require an EGG shaped container which
keeping the contents circulating and cool.

I just realized all the ancients KNEW this.
The water vessels are egg shaped, elongated egg or heart-like shaped.

The material is important too. Some people here still use the same shape water container, kendi. It is made from soil. After soil being shaped, it need to be burn until red.

Water stored in this kind of container will be cooler that room temperature. A weird phenomena but already accepted. I don't think a ceramic material would have the same effect. It seems the porous surface help the water to be cool.

Some restaurant in Bali promote this kendi too for drinking. I think the tea ware in Japan also use the same principle.

[Vortex]

The material is important too. Some people here still use the same shape water container, kendi. It is made from soil. After soil being shaped, it need to be burn until red.

Water stored in this kind of container will be cooler that room temperature. A weird phenomena but already accepted. I don't think a ceramic material would have the same effect. It seems the porous surface help the water to be cool.

Some restaurant in Bali promote this kendi too for drinking. I think the tea ware in Japan also use the same principle.

Non-glazed, porous, terracotta yes.
terra cotta, MUST be used.. An egg's shell is porous , the shape alone is not enough.

[Vortex]

Cooler

The cooler is created using two containers, one inside the other.

There should be at least 1/2 inch clearance between the inside and
outside containers.
Outer container has holes or slits with screen over them to allow for air to circulate.
Between the two containers is filled with a material like sand or dirt would probably work.
The sand is kept wet, Say about 1" of water at the bottom of the outer container would keep a 7" tall cooler wet.
Evaporation cools the inside container.

I did a toilet paper test on glass and water climbed up the paper against the glass about 7".
This is capillary movement of water or water wicking.
It's how water moves around within the soil or in the case of the cooler inside the outer container.
I can't find my temperature gauge and can not report as promised results from building the cooler.

Some rough examples of Evaporation cooling.

* At 32°C (90°F) and 15% relative humidity, air may be cooled to nearly 16°C (60°F). The dew point for these conditions is 2°C (~36°F).
* At 32°C (90°F) and 50% relative humidity, air may be cooled to about 24°C (75°F). The dew point for these conditions is 20°C (~68°F).
* At 40°C (105°F) and 15% relative humidity, air may be cooled to nearly 21°C (70°F). The dew point for these conditions is 8°C (~47°F).

So a cooler of this kind would at least keep the things 20 degrees cooler than the surrounding air temperature.

[sucahyo]

Nice experiment .

Similar principle is applied to house too. Some traditional house in Indonesia use at least two layer of roof. Where air should be allowed to circulate between them, trapped air = hot, single roof = hot. Too bad recent technology "advance" do not appreciate this neat trick. New house is hot at noon and at night now, that most people relying on air conditioner or fan now .

[aljhoa]

Living Water, some people swear by it, see:
Water
John Ellis
Al

[amigo]

Living Water, some people swear by it, see:
Water
John Ellis
Al

Yeah, at $1,700 a pop...

Individuals selling health to people are no better than Big Pharmas, they are both profiting on someone else's misery and suffering...

[aljhoa]

Producing something on the small scale it is not cheap.
Some large-scale production pills sell for a 100 in US and in Mexico for 10.
John Ellis low-pressure distiller also spins water, is not user friendly and is to late when “you are what you eat”.
Al

[sucahyo]

Just thinking. There is a saying that too much is always bad, no matter how good the thing is. I think if you consume or use a health improver medicine or water or anything, there is a limit of too many. If the health improver maker/forum/bottle medicine do not mention this limit, it is probably have not been researched yet and we become the genuie pig.

I think it is important to know that our body need balance. And we don't usually know the exact ingredient of some medicine. I see people use many of this product at the same time. Sure it may have a content that can improve our live, but other content may not and maybe dangerous if mixed with other product. So, it is important to stay cautious.

I think if you can afford such expensive product, you should already have a healthy diet. I think stil eating junk and relying on medicine to balance our body is a bad thing.

Sad thing is, even natural food may be poisoned now.......... Anyone want to start farming using only water (acidic for pestiside and alkali for watering)?

[sucahyo]

Distilled water = bad for health?

Viktor Schaubergers books

The symbol H2O represents pure or distilled water. Schauberger called it 'juvenile' water, because it has no developed character or qualities. It is raw and hungry. Like a baby, it grasps at everything within reach. If you drink only this juvenile water, it will weaken and eventually kill you because it leaches out the minerals and trace elements from your body. Water is mature when it is suitably enriched with raw material, what we call 'impurities,' on which other organisms depend for their energy and life.

Because it is a living organism, water needs to be in constant movement to maintain its health. The only container that allows this is the egg-shape. The material of containment is very important, because water needs to keep cool; the best materials are natural stone, wood or terracotta. The ancient Greeks understood this, and kept their water (and wine) in amphorae, egg-shaped vessels that allowed the liquid to breathe. In many amphorae discovered in archaeological digs, grains have been found to be preserved so well after 2000 years that they germinated when planted, proving the effectiveness of the egg-shape for preservation.

This demonstrates that this form of energy is predominantly electrical, therefore water-decomposing (or blood- or sap-decomposing). It involves the discharge of analysing energies in ray form. Whether the water is pressed against a wall, or a wall (such as a ploughshare) is pressed against the water (soil moisture), is immaterial, for in both cases this developmentally- harmful, decomposive current appears if the needle-jets or the pressurising surfaces are made of iron. In the case of a ploughshare it is dangerous because it decomposes the blood of the Earth - water.

However, if a jet or pressure-imparting surface (ploughshare) made out of copper is used, which is so shaped that a drop in pressure occurs with acceleration - then an apparently identical current capacity is produced quantitatively, but on closer examination this is predominantly magnetic. It draws together the surrounding material through which it passes and therefore has a structure-condensing or quantity-reducing function.

In every respect, experiments with this formative and levitative (synthesising) current produced surprising results. Thus, for example, 2,000,000 volts per drop of water, which were measurable, visible and palpable, and therefore incontrovertible, could be freed with appropriate charge-releasing devices. With 50 pairs of needle-jets about 200 million volts can be produced for virtually nothing, for which today's science requires giant machines. Even then it can only produce an exceptionally disintegrative (analysing) current, which has life-negating properties. This is to be differentiated from the formative and levitative, therefore life-affirming, functions of the synthesizing current mentioned elsewhere.

A few examples of applications should explain in general terms the nature of this novelty, still wholly unknown to contemporary science. If this current is conducted into vacuum tubes, then they emit a strongly pulsating blood-red glow horizontally along the elongated transverse axis and a dazzling, motionless, colourless and temperatureless radiance vertically up the elongated longitudinal axis, which fills the whole space. If the horizontally emitted current is first accumulated in a Leyden jar and conducted thence into petrol, then a tongue of flame is produced and the higher the accumulated charge, the longer the flame. If this current is conducted through strongly insulated resistances, then cool, juvenile water, free of other ingredients is produced, which exhibits an uncommonly high dissolving capacity and cohesive power. Conducted into a hinged lever, which hangs down, this current stands it upright. It also causes pendulums to gyrate in peculiar looping, twisting movements.

If this current is introduced into ordinary water, then the water becomes cool, dense and specifically heavy and its ion-count increases many thousandfold. It such water is drunk, then every kind of pain ceases almost immediately. After prolonged consumption of such water both mental and sexual potency increases in a truly striking fashion. Even the impotent will regain their potency. Kidney stones, gallstones and accretions of similar nature are dissolved and expelled in the form of grains or mucous. Rheumatic pains disappear completely after a few weeks. Venereal and malarial bacteria are eliminated and passed out of the body in bloodstained urine. In short, under the supervision of doctors, no affliction has yet been found which has been able to offer any resistance to this life-current. Even malignant cases of cancer improved quite remarkably. These experiments were discontinued, because the secret state police intervened owing to rising indignation amongst the medical fraternity.

[Vortex]

Viktor Schaubergers books

sucahyo,
I was interested in this:
"If this current is introduced into ordinary water, then the water becomes cool, dense and specifically heavy and its ion-count increases many thousandfold"
And I'm curious, is there a method for testing this ion-count as a before and after applying current?

Ok, from which ebook did each quote come from?
An in case the ebook does not allow or is not text searchable ..
upon which page in the ebook does the quote come from
and in case the pages #s of the pdf not match the page #s
on the pages of the book you need to indicate the page
if the page #s do not match, then indicate
pdf page # or book page # or give both

Trying to be helpful for those wishing to read more about the
fine information you have taken the time to share with us.
Randy

[sucahyo]

Here :
The water wizard - The extraordinary properties of natural water

As many as 2,000-4,000 volts are produced and directly measurable on an electrometer if a drop of water is merely allowed to fall a few centimetres due to its own self-weight, and due to the pressure exerted on it by passing through a needle-jet. If the jet pressure is raised to between 2 and 3 atmospheres, then the measuring device already indicates up to 15,000 volts.

If this downward flow is collected on a metal strip, then 2,200 volts per droplet can be accumulated. This charge is then conducted by an insulated wire to a vacuum tube, which lights up with a strongly pulsating, dark red glow. If the charge is allowed to accumulate in a Leyden jar and is conducted from this into petrol (gasoline), it ignites this with a jet of flame, whose magnitude increases as the charge in the jar rises.

This demonstrates that this form of energy is predominantly electrical, therefore water-decomposing (or blood- or sap-decomposing). It involves the discharge of analysing energies in ray form. Whether the water is pressed against a wall, or a wall (such as a ploughshare) is pressed against the water (soil moisture), is immaterial, for in both cases this developmentally- harmful, decomposive current appears if the needle-jets or the pressurising surfaces are made of iron. In the case of a ploughshare it is dangerous because it decomposes the blood of the Earth - water.

However, if a jet or pressure-imparting surface (ploughshare) made out of copper is used, which is so shaped that a drop in pressure occurs with acceleration - then an apparently identical current capacity is produced quantitatively, but on closer examination this is predominantly magnetic. It draws together the surrounding material through which it passes and therefore has a structure-condensing or quantity-reducing function.

The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature
page 43 (56 in acrobat reader).

In every respect, experiments with this formative and levitative (synthesising) current produced surprising results. Thus, for example, 2,000,000 volts per drop of water, which were measurable, visible and palpable, and therefore incontrovertible, could be freed with appropriate charge-releasing devices. With 50 pairs of needle-jets about 200 million volts can be produced for virtually nothing, for which today's science requires giant machines. Even then it can only produce an exceptionally disintegrative (analysing) current, which has life-negating properties. This is to be differentiated from the formative and levitative, therefore life-affirming, functions of the synthesizing current mentioned elsewhere.

A few examples of applications should explain in general terms the nature of this novelty, still wholly unknown to contemporary science. If this current is conducted into vacuum tubes, then they emit a strongly pulsating blood-red glow horizontally along the elongated transverse axis and a dazzling, motionless, colourless and temperatureless radiance vertically up the elongated longitudinal axis, which fills the whole space. If the horizontally emitted current is first accumulated in a Leyden jar and conducted thence into petrol, then a tongue of flame is produced and the higher the accumulated charge, the longer the flame. If this current is conducted through strongly insulated resistances, then cool, juvenile water, free of other ingredients is produced, which exhibits an uncommonly high dissolving capacity and cohesive power. Conducted into a hinged lever, which hangs down, this current stands it upright. It also causes pendulums to gyrate in peculiar looping, twisting movements.

If this current is introduced into ordinary water, then the water becomes cool, dense and specifically heavy and its ion-count increases many thousandfold. It such water is drunk, then every kind of pain ceases almost immediately. After prolonged consumption of such water both mental and sexual potency increases in a truly striking fashion. Even the impotent will regain their potency. Kidney stones, gallstones and accretions of similar nature are dissolved and expelled in the form of grains or mucous. Rheumatic pains disappear completely after a few weeks. Venereal and malarial bacteria are eliminated and passed out of the body in bloodstained urine. In short, under the supervision of doctors, no affliction has yet been found which has been able to offer any resistance to this life-current. Even malignant cases of cancer improved quite remarkably. These experiments were discontinued, because the secret state police intervened owing to rising indignation amongst the medical fraternity.

Edit, just realize that this is different. more like australian water powering a bike in a video, anyone remember who?

[sucahyo]

All connected

Victor Schauberger mention about diamagnetic water have healing property has close relationship as what David Hudson mention about diamagnetic property of ormus. Water trap which separate ferromagnetic water and diamagnetic water should give us bad water and good water.

But since Victor Schauberger mention that if we treat the water like it move in nature, we can change it's property to all diamagnetic. By swirling the water in egg shaped shaped jar, we can revitalize the water. But the material used must be from iron, teracota, copper or silver, since iron may give bad influence on water.

Other material also suggest the different of swirling motion. One direction is creation, other direction is destruction.

[Joit]

And wich Direction is what ???
Hope, i didnt whirl the hole Time into the wrong Direction.

About drinking Destilled Water, there is a Entry at Wiki for it under Drinking purified water
Seems, when it is in Relation, it is ok.