Aether

[dmonarch]

Thanks Bodkins for the book. I iwll be downloading it after this post. Yeah i am with you on the whole down the wrong road. Its just too messy for my liking. Making up model after model to explain something only explains to me that the original model was not good.
Sucahyo: I am not sure what the voltage was or much of the details. I saw the experiment when i was a kid. It was used to demonstrate the amount of rubish found in water. Somehow it made the rubbish just drop out of the water. I notice your producing an arc between your wires is that from the bemf of the coil. I hope so as i need that sought of arc for the grey tube replication.

[sucahyo]

It was used to demonstrate the amount of rubish found in water. Somehow it made the rubbish just drop out of the water.

I see, do you still remember what it's call?

I notice your producing an arc between your wires is that from the bemf of the coil. I hope so as i need that sought of arc for the grey tube replication.

Yes, it is. I shut off the negative part of the coil.

[Aaron]

aether and consciousness

I thank You Arron for all the knowledge you have given up to myself and other but the road Parts Now for me.
The Present way of think on the Ether is from a stand point of the Academic and the Academics have run down a big Cul-de-sac of Numbers, Nature is not Numbers its CONSCIOUSNESS.

Hey Bodkins,

I totally agree. It definitely is consciousness. That is why PATHS works.

The concepts of aether being consciousness really goes back thousands and thousands of years.

I came to the belief (before I heard the word aether) that the primal "stuff" is consciousness 20 years ago because of my own experiences. Even with this being so, the explanations of the aether in terms of what is happening with the circuits and how it is tapped and how it moves, etc... is still totally accurate. The nature of the aether being consciousness does not in any way exclude any of those things from being a part of our external world.

I have left out math, numbers and formulas to everything I have ever described for a purpose It is consciousness but that is irrelevant to anyone that is unable to understand their own external reality first. That is why I always said that in my own opinion, the model of the aether that I vibe with is the foundation necessary for people to understand what consciousness is.

Do it the other way around and you'll have people stuck in the land of magical woo woo. Again, my own passionate opinion.

I believe the Infinite set it up like this so that we can see a contrast... similar to why we must know "evil" in order to appreciate and realize what "good" means. It is all about contrast. Show someone really what consciousness is without a frame of reference...it will be completely meaningless.

Nature is not numbers, I agree 100%, but nature does have geometries and ratios. There is no inherent number(s) in nature...what matters is the space between events.

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." - Nikola Tesla

Just like the saying that music isn't the notes...anyone can press one note after another just like it is on a music sheet in the correct order but the difference between the masters is the space they give between the notes...the subtle nuances - that is harmony - that is what nature is master at.

Many of the "free energy" big names have delved deeply into the consciousness sciences, philosophies, understanding the nature of reality and the stuff that makes it up (aether) and how it is the fabric of the mind itself. And, they were all doing this before the mass majority of anyone ever heard of the word "free energy" - tachyons, quantum potential, etc...

You may vibe with the last half of this post..or not but I'm right there with you more than I've explained.
http://www.energeticforum.com/35199-post26.html

Anyway, my main motivation for The Quantum Key to begin with has nothing to do with being right or wrong. It is a pretty good model that is applicable to what we're dealing with. It is the foundation that people need in my opinion to be able to see the next step of realizing the mechanics of aetheric consciousness and how all the principles that the "free energy" open system machines operate on are 100% identical to the principles of consciousness since that is what it all came from to begin with.

You mention this thread has potential but, "when the reader has read it, the potential difference has been equalised."

But, it can only be equalized if an absolute meaning has been had from it. But if there is room left open for possibility, it is far from equalized as it remains open for other input.

[sucahyo]

I believe there are number in nature, shown clearly in musical instrument in resonance. We can hear a good sound from different frequency at spesific frequency difference, which sound horrible if one is out of pitch. We can measure something with number, so nature must have number. Days is number just like light speed is number. A second is a human measurement, it is possible that god's time unit is entirely different. But we say other how earth rotate it self in second, not in god's time unit.

[dmonarch]

On Aether

I would say that our brain and body interface with the aether as all is created from aether. I on the other hand do not think that the way things are was specially designed for us to become some omni what ever or to learn life lessons, its a bit to ego oriented for my liking. I think just like every other part of creation there is the latent potential for greatness, to become something more. But i dont think it is by default or some birth right. I think that ahead of us lays a canvas of potentials and behind us a myriad of dimensions. I think time moves in spurts.
Thanks sucahyo. Your the man. I found that schamtic on your thread and will be building it or something similar for a grey tube a mate and i are working on. I am not sure what the device was called or effect. I dont think it was a device it was just a demonstration of the amount of rubbish in the water.

[dmonarch]

Water vortex/faraday disc

Hey Sucahyo you could create the vortex using a metal can and center electrode. Put a magnet on the outside of the unit like a faraday disk. Apply the radiant energy to get spin and in between radiant pulses try and collect something as in ala faraday disc.

[Bodkins]

Thank you arron again will comment later,

ps
You mention this thread has potential but, "when the reader has read it, the potential difference has been equalised."

But, it can only be equalized if an absolute meaning has been had from it. But if there is room left open for possibility, it is far from equalized as it remains open for other input.
That the point,equalized the knowledge but not the understanding

[Aaron]

aether and getting answers

The aether is consciousness, which is light, which is knowledge and illumination. There is no light without something to reflect it. To my knowledge, there has never been any evidence of the inherent existence of light anywhere without a reflector. The only thing propagating through space from a star to our planet is information but the light doesn't exist until it is reflected, then the light or illumination is recreated at the destination. This applies to light in the visible spectrum as well as other spectrum and this applies to consciousness and the need for awareness to reflect it.

For example, a definition of heat is: " A form of energy associated with the motion of atoms or molecules and capable of being transmitted through solid and fluid media by conduction, through fluid media by convection, and through empty space by radiation."

We know that space isn't empty so the dictionary is automatically incorrect anyway as it is about the definition of light and energy. But, the point is that the heat isn't the infrared rays from the sun because if the infrared itself was the heat, outer space between the sun and the earth would be blazing hot and yet it is stone cold. That is because the heat itself simply doesn't exist until it is interacts with something.

Aether is the "medium that propagates light" but the light isn't even there until it hits something.

dmonarch, I think you might have looked at some of the TRV stuff. So you may be aware that these things do not have to be left to unknowns or postulations... the Infinite Consicousness contains all information and it can be asked a question. What is ABC? The Infinite Consciousness will deliver the answer from its own perspective. The entire method through TRV is to be able to separate the inherent truth of what the Infinite Consciousness is answering and what our own imagination/reason is turning it into...and the ability to get multiple validation from multiple people all doing the sessions blind to get these answers. Therefore, the answers that come back are the inherent truth to the matter of anything that is asked.

So if you or anyone else wants to learn it, we can do team blind sessions and bring the data together to see what the truth is. If anyone is game, I am. TRV brought forth the data about the opposing magnets on the Bedini machines before John released that public...it also showed all the Earth rod connections before it was discussed online and made possible the self-running oscillator that I posted on youtube as well as being partially responsible for other things, etc...

Anyway, even can do a join TRV session on what is the aether and the data that comes back and can be matched by multiple viewers who are blind to the target meaning we don't know what we are doing a sessions on..we only have a random 8 digit number assigned to it...therefore, there must be maybe a dozen or so targets cued up so that when one is picked none of us know what it is we are doing to eliminate the "front loaded" bias.

[Inquorate]

Trv

Ok, I don't know what TRV stands for, but I do know I'm a 'psychic sponge' and have sat in groups when studying flower essences, 'picking up' on target ppl's mind / emotional states. Also, resonating with flowers in order to determine their consciousness or concept / energy signature...

So, sign me up for this aether TRV thingy.

oh, and perhaps 9 and 13 would be better numbers? Don't know why but I felt like mentioning that.

[Aaron]

trving the aether

Inquorate,

I'm naturally psychic and have been all my life but TRV is a very specific learned skill to have repeatable results with highly refined data straight from the matrix. Way more accurate than natural abilities.

Here are some example sessions, check both of these pages:
http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...essions-2.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...-sessions.html

For example, just going off of an 8 digit number that was assigned to a bleacher full of people at a rodeo, I drew the bleachers with data about containers of animals, etc.. in addition to accurately drawing the bleachers, etc...

So using the same skills, we can ask something to the effect of:

Aether / Description of Inherent Truth /
or / Purpose or /Function of /

Multiple cooberated data by multiple people doing the sessions blind based on just an 8 digit number will put to bed any question whatsoever about what the aether is, what it is made of, where it comes from, what its purpose is, etc...

Here are 3 articles about TRV:
Energetic Science Ministries™ | Resource Library

You have to do the training online or by a home study course. I got results in less than 24 hours.

The cheapest way is the home study course - you can actually learn this from the workbook and video tapes:
Ordering the Generation II TRV Training Course
You can sometimes find the kits cheap on Ebay and they sometimes have sales or maybe you can coop on a set with some local friends.

My friend and partner here Kevin Pirolo is one of the top TRVers in the world and work on the special projects team with psitech. He has the #1 company in the world that does this professionally for corporations, police departments, etc... This is the real thing and isn't left to subjective opinion of what we are intuiting. Just about anyone can learn it and just takes repetition to get good.

I'm nowhere as good as Kevin but I'm very accurate and have been blown away every single time when I finish a session then receive what the target is that I was working.

Anyway, lets say 5 of us did the session, if one person was off target, it will be overwhelmingly obvious by their data being far off from the other 4 and the other 4 you can take to the bank.

It was developed at Stanford and is so accurate, military inel uses it for espionage.

It will literally tie people's minds in a knot if they knew what was actually learned from TRV and what has been applied from what was learned.

Anyway, something for anyone to consider because we can also use it for energy projects This has already been done to some degree and is partially responsible for some breakthroughs.

[Inquorate]

Fair enough :-)

For anyone who wants to take up another option, here's an experiment:

Take note of your mind state, mood, energetic level, physical state, and give yourself scores out of ten. Write down how your mind 'feels' ie muddy, gummy, airy etc......

Then look at the pictures of flowers on these pages. Don't read anything. Just look. At least 30 seconds per pic.


http://www.life-academy.com.au/index...d=55&Itemid=54

http://www.life-academy.com.au/index...d=82&Itemid=54

http://www.life-academy.com.au/index...=119&Itemid=54




Walk away from your monitor. Write down mind emotional physical state info as before.

Then read the info on the pages. Just looking at the pics bypassed the conscious mind and resonates with your subconscious, which understands the consciousness that gave rise to the shape / colour / form of the flower.

It will put your mind into a state that is receptive to channeling info from the universal consciousness. Obviously not as much as introducing the actual vibration of the flower to your lymphatic system and bloodstream, but at least a little.

[dmonarch]

In All Truth

In all truth i wouldnt have fogiest idea of how things are. Heck when it comes down to some of the most basic observations such as am i moving we fail. I am far from the most spiritual guy out there as you have probably gathered. When i first started on this journey i looked at everything from the occult perspective, then over time i looked at everything from the scientific perspective, and now try to look at everything from no perspecitive. Nothing is gospel. i know what i think and believe today is just as likely to crumble away tomorrow. The fundamentals in life are change.
I would love to do the TRV with you Aaron however i am just a bit nervous about spending the money on the course specially when i am trying to save at the moment. My nervousness i guess stems from the behaviour shown by some of those who enjoy TRV. I have been reading the psitech forum and when asked questions that are very direct the people get all defensive in the same way that those who follow a religion do. There backs get arched very quickly and are very head strong on there beliefs not willing to let anything in. I am not refering to you here either or anyone on this forum. I think is a noble cause though Aaron and would very interested in seeing the results of the sessions.

[Aaron]

free remote viewing method

Nothing is gospel. i know what i think and believe today is just as likely to crumble away tomorrow. The fundamentals in life are change.

I would love to do the TRV with you Aaron however i am just a bit nervous about spending the money on the course specially when i am trying to save at the moment. My nervousness i guess stems from the behaviour shown by some of those who enjoy TRV. I have been reading the psitech forum and when asked questions that are very direct the people get all defensive in the same way that those who follow a religion do. There backs get arched very quickly and are very head strong on there beliefs not willing to let anything in. I am not refering to you here either or anyone on this forum. I think is a noble cause though Aaron and would very interested in seeing the results of the sessions.

I agree, remaining teachable and flexible is the only way that I have had any real progress in life.

For TRV, I think some people are just very protective of it because when learning it and seeing that it actually works, it is really a paradigm shifter in a big way. Many people in the TRV world have had a lot of criticism and are very defensive as are RV'ers from other methods. I have also seen this with some people with energy technologies and other esoteric things.

Here is an original method you can see and this manual is free:
http://www.remoteviewed.com/files/CR...ual%20full.pdf

It will probably be more of a challenge since it isn't a user friendly manual but you just might be able to learn the basic method from this or at least get a feel for it.

Anyway, not to deter from the topic of the thread but wanted to mention TRV because it is a way to get accurate data about what the aether really is.

[dmonarch]

Thanks heaps for the pdf

Hey thanks heaps Aaron for the link, excellent stuff will be reading it tonight.
Cheers
Damian

[Bodkins]

humanity

Arron
Love it The TVR is somethin I never looked at before, Its the same as the Working of a Genius Mind. Ive been read about Tesla,Leonardo da Vinci using a method of inspriation. Tesla learnt how to focus the image, he just waited of the ideals to come. I need to dig it out and reread it I have it on a disc will upload it somehow if people what it.
Thanks for looking up a freebee Will read it and get back to you on that.


You said
The Green Plasma phenomena I found is from one side of a diode having super high pressure heaviside flow compress to higher potential then it moves to the spark gap leaving a negative pressure (low...actually negative density) at the cathode of the diode, which instantly sucks the high pressure potential out of the cap on the other side of the diode through a coil and out of the diode to add to the first compressed pressure against the diode. That is showing that the high density moves to the low density. This is in regards to the positive potential of the aether and not the negative potential. While all that happens, the negative energy of that vacuum moves into the cathode of the diode, out the annode, into the coil and into the capacitor.

I hate it when you talk like this it drive me crazy.When i read your book its going to drive me crazy

In the primary Phyics book new terminology is used because like you have said this stuff is consciousness,Not present Phyics
Have you Looked at the Book Arron?
I believe that all mattter is held together by the ether with stressfield.
Im only at the begaining Arron but this works for me, I would love to have the understanding that you have but I dont,
Man how lucky are you? Bedini on one shoulder and Peter on the other this has shaped your Understanding which is great!!

I have a understanding to work from Now. I see why you put the book out and Im sure you have had difficulty in getting the level of which everone will get some understanding.
But Here New words and way to talk that we will all understand to mean the same in all systems used, needs to address.
the ether is the key to all system so we need universial guide?



Im really interested about Algae how does it grow what makes it so useful,
Im hoping you have given me the anwser to a very Big question that i didnt ask.
Take Care Arron
B