U.S. and Russian satellites collide

[rickoff]

Space junk from collision already falling to Earth

Have you heard about the pickup truck sized chunk of space junk that narrowly missed Calgary, Alberta, Canada on Valentine's Day? NORAD alerted the province of the imminent threat. See more here:
Calgary dodges space junk

Also, I was watching a TV news report this morning which showed video of some runners in a Texas marathon race, and suddenly a huge ball of light streaked across the sky, plummeting downward. Many Texans are calling in reports of sightings, which FAA officials believe to be space junk from the satellite collision. See more about this here:
Debris falling in Texas, possibly from satellites - Space- msnbc.com

[Aromaz]

@rickoff,

I saw the same video last night on CNN. Would have been you morning.
Since there was a mention of it in the headlines I was all attention when
the clip came on. I have noticed a few interesting phenomenon from some
UFO sightings; in fact that is what put me onto a research about their
possible energy source and the appear/disappear.

Before I used to put this UFO thing off as junk, then I came to believe in
them when I studied German technology; lately I did actually became a
complete believer – in many of the stories; though many are doubtful.

I saw the object, looks like it was tumbling, but then at one position it
abruptly changed course, not likely possible inside the atmosphere
and gravity field of earth.

Most likely it was debris, but not from the two satellites; but nobody can
Give any explanation yet. The intriguing part, for me, was the course change.

So today I wanted to review that turning point; thus have been searching
through MSNBC, CNN, BBC, Yahoo, YouTube, et all. On NSBC13 and Yahoo
there are links to this video but then when clicked "Requested video can not be found"

I can not find any copy of that video. Yes, I did find a few articles, and
all state this dept or that dept “We do not know what it was”.

Does anyone else know where I can get copy of this video; please?

The UK government is releasing their UFO files, but drops at a time, like they
have to take a year or so to sieve throught the files and decide what to
release!

PS. I did find some videos i.e. from police dash cam:
Dash cam video of the fireball | KXAN.com
The last part of this video was what I am interested; but it cut off!
Another part of the video:
Breitbart.tv » TV News Cameraman Rolls as Mystery Fireball Streaks Across Texas Sky
But there was much more - in once part of same recording there was
at least three fireballs.

Some related videos:
msnbc.com Video Player

See how this fireball just suddently appears fully bright in the sky? Much
lower than the stratosphere!

[rickoff]

Reply to Aromaz:

I saw the object, looks like it was tumbling, but then at one position it
abruptly changed course, not likely possible inside the atmosphere
and gravity field of earth.

Most likely it was debris, but not from the two satellites; but nobody can
Give any explanation yet. The intriguing part, for me, was the course change.

Hi Aromaz,

I haven't seen any video of this that would indicate an abrupt course change. Can you provide a link to that? The only video I saw was in daylight, and there were people running along a street for a marathon race. One of the video links that you gave showed three or four fireballs, but it was actually the same fireball showed again and again. This is evident when you notice that the same runner is approaching the camera in each segment.

Many people witnessed the fireball, and called FAA about it, and FAA responded by saying that it probably was space junk from the colliding satellites. Strategic Command later said that definitely is not so, but they aren't offering a better suggestion of what people saw. Today it was reported that two University of North Texas astronomers found a couple of pecan sized meteor fragments that they believe may have come from the Texas fireball. ABC News: Texas Astronomers Say They Found Remains of Meteor
Seems strange that this is being suggested as a meteor now, because farmers found metallic objects on their land and called local law enforcement authorities to investigate. One such object, shown from a news helicopter hovering above a Texas farm field, shows an elongated tubular shaped piece of metal. Of course, that obect could be just about anything, and not necessarily space junk or UFO debris. ABC News: Texas Astronomers Say They Found Remains of Meteor

We'll probably never know what the fireball really was, as Strategic Command isn't likely to reveal what they know about it. This object, and the one which nearly impacted Alberta, Canada, are both described as being pickup truck sized, so it's a sure bet that Strategic Command noticed and tracked them. If it was in fact space junk then they probably would not admit it, and would prefer that we believe these are meteor fragments. After all, who can one bring a lawsuit against when a "meteor fragment" destroys private property or causes loss of life? Every one of the more than 200,000 known pieces of Earth orbiting space junk is a potential accident waiting to happen, and obviously some persons, corporate groups, and governments are responsible for causing these risks. It's probably safe to say that an earnest attempt to clean up this space litter will not be undertaken in our lifetimes. What a gargantuan task that would be, and how would it be accomlished? Would they send up some highly maneuverable sweeper satellites that would pick up shards of space junk at the relative altitude of their Earth orbit? And what would they do once those satellites "filled up?" Would they then leave these in orbit, retrieve them with a space shuttle, or send them into a higher altitude orbit?


Rick

[Aromaz]

I haven't seen any video of this that would indicate an abrupt course change. Can you provide a link to that? ..................

THAT is exactly the problem I found, and can not give you a link.
What a saw on internet is a small 20-30% of what I saw in CNN World News.
One hour later the CNN was not showing this video again; usually they
repeat same news few times. In the next morning the shorter version as
seen on internet was shown; I assumed then it being cut to reduce time.
Now I am in more puzzlement!

I saw the first report on CNN World News, yes the reporter of the marathon.
The CNN clip was between 4 and 6 seconds long – continues. After the
first 2 seconds the camera man lifted his camera up and zoomed to max the
fireballs. Now, all that later part is missing. It is sort of covered up by
repeating the same sequence, as you said. I notice in particular the
woman with yellow or orange T shirt witht he re-play as on internet.

But in the original video I saw in CNN there were even some of the runners that
looked back over their left shoulder. With so many fakes around, THAT is what
confirmed to me it is unlikely to be a fake. Also in the original CNN clipping towards
the end, there were something like 3 small balls of fire visible in the same frames.

It was not a complete major course change, rather like 20 degrees.
At that speed it is unlikely to be because of air friction, might have been
some sort of explosion, through no bigger fireball.

THAT is why and what I wanted to see again; to try and understand what
might have been happening there in slow motion.

It was definitely NOT meteor, way too slow and way too low.
Also it suddenly appears at very low altitude.

I do have a suspicion: It was some sort of LEO military craft that went
bonkers. Why the sudden appearance? Craft was resonating at extreme
frequency - above (UV) or below (IR) visible light; thus not visible to human eye. It exploded - which will explain the sudden appearance at low altitude.
The burn out was not so much due to air friction (as you find with meteors)
but rather due to the extreme frequency.

Some people reported small pieces of debris, but off course the warnings
"WARNING- POSSIBLE NUCLEAR RADIATION; do not touch; call 911
and we will send experts" By the looks of some photos on the net it
does seems to be Aluminum; so Alien UFO is doubtful too.

[Aromaz]

More:
Nowhere on any of the public videos can you see more than the one fire ball,
neither that it broke up.

Yet:
"Two University of North Texas astronomers think they've found two pieces of a meteor that alarmed numerous residents when it streaked across the Texas sky on Sunday.........People on Sunday reported seeing a fireball streak across the sky and DiLulio said the reason it created such a fireball was because the meteor expanded and broke into pieces."

Besides, pieces of 'pecan nut' sizes, at that low speed is definatley way to small for that fire ball.

[ABCStore]

Aromaz,

I would ask people at UFO Casebook - Home
There's usually someone with the original footage.

ABC

[rickoff]

Another video...

More:
Nowhere on any of the public videos can you see more than the one fire ball, neither that it broke up.

Have you seen this Fox newscast video?
YouTube - Satellite Debris Falls 15 Feb 2009, MY FOX
The reporter states that, "people from all over north Texas saw smoking objects [which would appear to indicate more than one piece - Rick] falling from the sky, and the FAA has confirmed that this debris is from 2 satellites that crashed in orbit." The video shows the scene of a grass fire in Penelope, about 60 miles south of Dallas, which is thought to have been set ablaze by some of the flaming debris.

Strange, isn't it, how the FAA confirmed to news agencies that this was debris from the satellite collision, and released reports to airmen warning of other possible falling debris over the weekend. In order to confirm this, they would have had to receive confirmation from another government agency, such as Nasa, Norad, or Strategic Command, which now denies what was confirmed. Kind of reminds one of the Roswell incident, where the story closest to the truth was given to the news early on, and then retracted later after pressure from higher authorities was brought to bear.

In another video, an eye witness stated that he could see the fireball in the sky for about 10 seconds, which definitely indicates a slow moving object. YouTube - Fireball Falls from Texas Sky

Evidently, Texas law enforcement agencies reported that a great many callers had either directly witnessed the fireballs, or had found debris from them. Funny that none of the debris has been shown in photos or video, other than the single tubular object in the video that I mentioned in my previous post. It's probably fair to say that no one who found actual debris, and reported this to authorities, still has the objects in their posession.

Rick

[Aaron]

cover up

In order to confirm this, they would have had to receive confirmation from another government agency, such as Nasa, Norad, or Strategic Command, which now denies what was confirmed. Kind of reminds one of the Roswell incident, where the story closest to the truth was given to the news early on, and then retracted later after pressure from higher authorities was brought to bear.

Interesting, like the Oklahoma federal building bombing..local news told all about the explosives found all throughout the building but that was squashed and the national story was some independent nut that blew it up from a parking lot.

[Aromaz]

@rickoff;

Interesting yes and the reference to the speed - I agree and correspond to what I saw on CNN.

Further interesting in these interviews references to:

"like a bomb went off" ..."Loud bang" ....."like sonic boom"
A meteor as well as space debris does not make a 'sonic boom' they have a clear 'wooshing' kind of sound.

Could fit in with invisible craft exploding. But that sound must have been
EXTREMELY loud. That was also why the runners looked over their shoulder -
the sound; else they would not have known of the fireball over their left back.

By the hour it becomes more and more of a "hide and hope to forget show."

My curiosity now expanding to the suspision I have: Flying craft with ability to hide due
to ultra frequency? Because - I already suspect the USA has such items; and so does a few other people.

Maybe they shoudl hire someone who knows a lot, is able to think on the spot,
AND come up with a reasonable answer. Not their current crap.

[Aromaz]

Some might wonder why I persue this - since it does not relate to Renewable energy.

It is like this: In fact it does relate. Let us assume my hypothesis is correct
that they USA military does have a craft that can be 'invisible' because it
is resonanting at ultra frequency - above or below our vissible EM wave;
then the implications is simple:

It can be done, it has been done - so let us do it.

As for energy, it will open a whole lot of new options, ability and potential
to reach real OU.

Besides this; I do not really need the proof, it is the direction I am now
walking - Extreme frequency and it is becoming Extreeeemly interesting;
especially with my new toy - Liquid Nitrogen and fluorine.

[rickoff]

Reply to Aaron:

Interesting, like the Oklahoma federal building bombing..local news told all about the explosives found all throughout the building but that was squashed and the national story was some independent nut that blew it up from a parking lot.

Yes, Aaron, the official explanation on that was truly absurd. The early news reports about second and third explosive devices are still circulating on the Internet []YouTube - Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage , and there was an interesting story on the Discovery Channel that shed some light on the subject. Funny how a bit of investigative journalism can uncover so much, while an official government investigation leads nowhere. Gee, don't get me going, or the next thing we'll be talking about is 911 and flight 175.

Rick

[Aromaz]

Yes, I have seen and studied some of the 9-11 videos too, some time ago.
There were quite a number of things very strange i.e plane belly load,
shadows, clear explotions low down before building started to collapse.....

OK, sorry - let us stop that one. That is pure terorism - or excuse for Afghanistan.
Lately I wonder very much about that, I do begin to see
a completley different picture here; a very hidden agenda; but you need
to go way back in history for that to start following the tread.

There was a facility full of clay tablets found in Afghanistan that was
dated to be older than 9,000 years. There was another similar occurance
where some 21,000 clay tablets from around 5,000 BC was stored in a
museum in Iraq. In both cases only very few of the tablets were translated
and the language was very ancient Sumerian.

In Afghanistan the tablets are missing. UK troops were in the town when
it got missing. In Iraq the US troops shot the building doors open and called
the locals to go and "take it all, take what you want"

There are some descriptions of what was on the few tablets that was
translated. Besides 'accounting' and receipts, there were also references to
ancient technology that was very mysterious. What excatly has not been
revealed. In the Iraq case, this building was stripped BEFORE Sadams palace!

OK - back to the potential of High Frequency or energy mysterious crafts
over Texas.

[CitizenDC]

In Afghanistan the tablets are missing. UK troops were in the town when
it got missing. In Iraq the US troops shot the building doors open and called
the locals to go and "take it all, take what you want"

Zecharia Sitchin translated many Sumerian tablets and provides an insight into what possibly happened in our distant past.

The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin

OK, sorry - let us stop that one. That is pure terorism - or excuse for Afghanistan.

Not talking about it will only lead to less awareness and the likely hood of the same tactic being used again. We need to become more aware by speaking more openly about these matters.

A common method for securing population support for ANY conflict is to employ false flag operations. These operations can be active with the government staging the event or passive, with governments knowing full and well there is a threat and allowing it to happen.

False flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the US's case, they clearly benefited from 9/11 incident with being able to conquer Afgan and establish a military presence for moving into Iraq which became paramount to the US gov after Saddam announced the change from the Petro-Dollar to the Petro-Euro.

The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target:

Another chap that everyone should research is Hitler and he's methods used for securing total control of Germany.
The same methods are being employed today...

[Aromaz]

Zecharia Sitchin translated many Sumerian tablets

I have studied - and recently ordered all 12 books of Dr Sitchen. Problem
is that more than 20,500 of the latest Sumerian discovered tablets were not yet studied - neither photographed!

In the US's case, they clearly benefited from 9/11 incident with being able to conquer Afgan and establish a military presence for moving into Iraq which became paramount to the US gov after Saddam announced the change from the Petro-Dollar to the Petro-Euro.

It is a quite well established fact that Sadam Hussein and Nuclear devices
was not the reason for the attack. What exactly the hidden agenda was/is
is still ?????. How this is playing out with 9-11; well, I think the USA
citizens had (?) a problem with their own government - or at least certain
factions of their government. I saw some reports that the WTC was pre-planned for demolition ????

Demolition, the truth of 9-11 and the WTC - and other on same line:
AttackOnAmerica.net - Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC

Another fact of confirmed truth: The USA military and CIA were keyrole players in creating two of the worst men in the 20th century. Osama bin-Laden and Saddam Hussein.

I must admit, I have not been keeping too updated about this, but saw this video now and it is very strange. Listen carefull to the people that were there - and all are talking of additional explosions? Like series of explosions?

YouTube - 9/11 Revisited: Were explosives used?
Unless you were keeping updated, this is really a must to watch!

[wpage]

Dan Akroyd Ghost Buster!

Its hard for me to take the video of UFO's serious with Dan Akroyd doing the lead in...

I keep waiting for the green goblin eating the hot dogs and Ghost Busters theme to rush in!

All conspiricy theory beside. The point of space junk and possiblities of collisions is very real and is ever more present dangers as more satellites enter the space.

The concept of a space "Traffic Cop" is what is needed. Something tragic will have to occur B4 this is addressed by UN or G8 or some authority