The Physics of the Primary State of Matter

[Vortex]

Similar prinsiple with kundel magnet?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=1491

It seem Dr Johnson already wrote a book:
The secret worlds of magnet

"Similar prinsiple with kundel magnet",
No sucahyo. kundel is using just magnets ..
Johnson and the Romag Generator are very different, using magnets in
ways not ever before done. Using the Magnetic energy .. not the magnetic flux of attract/repel

[sucahyo]

"Similar prinsiple with kundel magnet",
No sucahyo. kundel is using just magnets ..
Johnson and the Romag Generator are very different, using magnets in
ways not ever before done. Using the Magnetic energy .. not the magnetic flux of attract/repel

You mean johnson using propietary magnet and won't work with normal magnet?

[Vortex]

You mean johnson using propietary magnet and won't work with normal magnet?

No, not from what I understand, those two Johnson and Romag are NOT following the "normal" rules of magnetics.
You'll need to read some of the links I've posted. Those devices follow their own rules. Magnetic Current rules.

The "real" rules are not what you have been told.
What you have been told never explains The WHY it is a rule ..
This whole thread is about showing those new rules and a WHY.
I've been posting how the old rules do not fit reality in experiments and
hopefully supports the WHY that makes the old rule incomplete, misleading and confusing.

No, I sorry I did not explain it fully.
For example Johnson does reversals of magnetic forces creating a SPIKE in magnetic force ..
which is like the SPIKE from a coil collapse, but in magnetic force. He is using magnet current.
See here for links and details.

Sucahyo have you heard of Magnetolysis or Felix Ehrenhaft?
see Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

[sucahyo]

I see, I read more and I think I understand what you mean. I post some snapshot from Howard Johnson's The Secret World Of Magnets here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...7041#post47041


I will read your last link, never heard it, thanks .

For spike I guess this is the word:
"The repulsion of like poles represents particle activity which is quite
different from attraction.
The particles react with each other as they form two vortices that spin in the same direction. There is no reduction in the gauss count, which registers about three times as high as it does at the attracting end."

For current:
"Ampere was the first investigator to propose that the magnetism observed in permanent magnets is caused by tiny electric currents circulating within the molecules of magnetic material." Scientific American Jan. 89.

[Bodkins]

Hi all I have the secrets of magnets in a pdf file only 3meg if anyone wants it.
sorry no read all the post sort on time but keep up the great work Randy its all pointing in the right direction

[Vortex]

I see, I read more and I think I understand what you mean. I post some snapshot from Howard Johnson's The Secret World Of Magnets here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...7041#post47041


I will read your last link, never heard it, thanks .

For spike I guess this is the word:
"The repulsion of like poles represents particle activity which is quite
different from attraction.
The particles react with each other as they form two vortices that spin in the same direction. There is no reduction in the gauss count, which registers about three times as high as it does at the attracting end."

For current:
"Ampere was the first investigator to propose that the magnetism observed in permanent magnets is caused by tiny electric currents circulating within the molecules of magnetic material." Scientific American Jan. 89.

Yes .. people should read your posting you give a link to.
Which reminds me I should x-ref my posting in that thread also here.
Food For Thought Heat/Magnets
it's a triplet Heat/Magnets/Electric they effect each other directly and indirectly.
I don't make the above statement as a common knowledge thing.

I mean there are interactions going on that isn't common knowledge or
at least have not been EXPLAINED or FIT the rules of Physics as we have been told.

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3D model of flux fields around a magnet.


(Image source: The Secret World of Magnets published in 2006, Ask yourself: "Why did it take until 2006?")
Please stay tuned, hopefully more will be uncovered.

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Image from video: Solar Particles and Earth's Magnetic Field
@ NASA - Archive

For lack of a better word or phase, call it a cone-shaped vortex (CSV)
Remember, there are 4 CSV vortexes.
The top is the entry point or input.
The bottom is the exit point or output.

The CSV TOPS of the vortexes are facing the Earth and
the CSV BOTTOMS are pointed out into SPACE.
The input energy into the vortex is coming from the Earth and being
expelled out of the bottom of the vortex into SPACE.
(see previous post for reference image)

This geometry of 4 CSV vortexes converging into points in SPACE,
hardly fits the PROTECTIVE magnetic flux "SHIELD" we have been told about.

I'm having are very hard time wrapping my head around what it would look like.

Have I blundered and with lack of sleep and I am drawing the wrong conclusions?

Help me out here ..
Randy

[Bodkins]

I think what we have in the magnet is the carbon static field pulled apart so the ether spins the two parts of the field the N(hydrogen) and the S(oxygen) back to the centre of the bar.

Like the bedin coil will do the same thing pull the field apart then charge a battery with the movement of the H and O to the centre of the bar again, its against the stressfield of Atmosfear, thats way you need to find the sweet spot because of the stressfield you make in the bar fighting the atmosfear stressfield,

Randy the way i see it if you get the frequency of a spining magnet to match the comos alinement and frequecy then flip the poles the diamagnetic force will show up !!!!!
Its like the ticking of the comos clock if you change the poles on the next tick you let the spirit/force come into real force.
sorry very sort on time.Keep it up brother your doing a great job

[amigo]

I don't get it then, NASA shows that the magnetic field of the Earth is like a traditional bar magnet's, when the traditional bar magnet does not have a field like that at all in reality?

So it would mean that if the Earth has a magnetic field like a bar magnet we have seen above earlier, with 4 vortices, then there would be a Bloch Wall half way (or so) slicing the Earth, somewhere maybe in the Bermuda Triangle (and on the other side near Japan, the Devil's Sea/Triangle)?

[Bodkins]

Magic With Magnetism

First is a link to Magic With Magnetism H and O Stuff
Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

Also i remenber reading about somecall eletrons being bounced off the earths magnetic field at right angles like the aurora borealis. they did it in the same region as the aurora but also over brazil. Which would mean that the field is at right angles in brazil

So it not a bar magnet, Well done Randy

no wonder people get lost in the Bermuda Triangle

[Bodkins]

Universal Awareness

YouTube - Universal Awareness

[Vortex]

The word anomaly

Definition: anomaly
deviation from the normal or common order or form or rule

Google single word: anomaly
... results give you 9,880,000 hits
Google two words: anomaly magnetic
... results give you 1,479,000 hits
Google two words: magnetic anomaly
... results give you 788,000 hits

The word Magnetic ALMOST means Anomaly.
A magnetic map is called a "Magnetic Anomaly Map"

Gravity comes in at second place (I'm guessing) in the Anomaly race.
It's pretty easy for science to poo-poo and make up reasons for anomalies in magnetic anomaly maps.
Gravity anomaly maps are a much different story.

200 nanotesla = US Congress and WHO Recommended limit for constant human exposure to electromagnetic Ref.Link
Oh .. explain to me how/who determined there was a health difference between electromagnetic and magnetic exposure.
Isn't magnetic from electromagnet equal to magnetic from non-electro sources, it's magnetic .. ????
Where are these differences explained and why they are different?

Major cities are over exposed to magnetic, without the electromagnetic added in..See map
Then The International Geomagnetic Reference Field: A "Health" Warning Revised, April 2005 basically tells you ...
our maps are totally messed up ...
because of "so-called secular variation" which has to due with direction
of magnetic force, not the strength of magnetic force.
They go on to tell you how they fudge the strength numbers using
coefficient values because of the secular variation. Say What?
(that's what I got out of it, maybe I'm wrong)

Anyway view a Magnetic Anomaly Map . Who uses these maps and what are they good for?

Gravity maps are much MUCH harder to get a hold of. ..
(with readable color coded keys, which provide meaning to the map)

For a clue as to why, view this gravity map of the moon

See anything strange about the gravity map of the moon?

Earth, mountains, trenches deep beneath the ocean and the ground beneath our feet all affect the gravity field, meaning it’s not identical everywhere.

Sounds logical, but that fails to explain why around Indonesia and south of Greenland there's HIGH gravity.

View world gravity map of 2003
USGS CMG InfoBank Atlas: Indonesia bathymetry
(Bathymetry is the study of underwater depth)

The point is, they are making it ALL up .. fudging numbers, making up reasons and pointing out anomalies ..

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Mini Earth

This is great work... maybe.
Objective is to make a dynamo (Magnetoturbulence and Dynamos)
I question how results would directly support the current Earth model.

Building Laboratory Models of Planetary Cores.
We are told IRON is the center of Earth causing magnetism
why then is this model using a Copper Plated Aluminum CORE as the center?
Copper is diamagnetic
Sodium and Aluminum are paramagnetic
Nothing is ferromagnetic in the device.

Why are they rotating the core independently?
Does the current model of the Earth have a core rotating in opposite direction of the Earth?

Two 4m I.D magnets have been constructed to apply fields
up to about 0.02T to the system to study induced field
dynamics.
I guess this is to see if a little magnetism in creates a lot of magnetism out.
That's great, where is the Earth getting it's "little" magnetism from ?

University of Maryland Sphere Makes Magnetic Fields - Video - Popular Mechanics

I do not see how this will prove a ferromagnetic iron core creates magnetism if
no ferromagnetic metal is used in the device.

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Magnetic field weakens And Gravity Problem

why the strength of the Earths magnetic field has decreased by about 10 percent over the last 150 years and continues to do so.
Magnetic Field Weakening in Stages, Old Ships' Logs Suggest
Google Search

The Constants are not constant ...

Scientists ponder the problem with gravity
""I have been working on [the Pioneer anomaly] for more than 11 years now,..."
"If the anomaly is due to some new physical mechanism, this discovery would have a truly fundamental impact," Turyshev said.