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  • matter refuse to move in linear way

    Nice link for patent download .

    I do smell ozone during my experiment.

    About Harmonic Energy Exchange Device, it is interesting that it work between 4.5 to 7.5 MHz. A bit similar to Konstantin Meyl 7 MHz resonator. Schauberger mention that a correct procedure of fertilizing land is by neutralizing the polarity of the land at the point where the plant will grow. By creating a thin separating layer ground will be kept negative and air will be positive.


    About shape, that remind me of matter build in shape.

    About vortex experiment:
    Alexandersson - Living Water - Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy (1990), page 129:
    The discoveries of two well-known physicists seem to support Viktor Schauberger's theories. The first is Ludwig Bolzmann (1804-1906) whose special field of research was steam technology, the efficiency of which he wanted to improve. To reach the pressures and the high temperatures that this technology demanded, Bolzmann found that the steam's or gas's molecules must be made to move in a straight line for high efficiency. At the same time he made the disappointing discovery that it was virtually impossible to create this straight-line movement, even with two-atom gases, such as hydrogen.

    When the two-atom gas was exposed to a moving impulse, it wanted to begin to spin, whereby its own rotation 'ate up' a large part of the energy created, leaving only a small amount to remain. It was even worse with multipleatom gases, such as water steam, where a 'straight motion' was even more difficult to achieve. Bolzmann was very disappointed by these findings, for he thought the study of heat and heat technology were the most important base for the existing technology, and if high efficiency could not be obtained, then it must mean that Nature is mistaken. Low efficiency will cause such extensive fuel depletion, that soon we will exhaust the world's energy supplies, he thought The situation today shows that Bolzmann's fears were justified. At the same time, however, his discoveries confirm Viktor Schauberger's argument that Nature tries to prevent straight line motion.

    Small particles wish rather to move in a 'planetary' orbit, rather than to be forced into the straight-line motion which suits our technology. When technologists now continue to use this incorrect model of motion, they are also responsible for the plundering of earth's oil and coal supplies.

    The other scientist who, without knowing it, confirmed with his experiments Viktor Schauberger's 'spiral motion' theory was Felix Ehrenhaft (1879-1952), Professor of Physics at Vienna University. Ehrenhaft developed the experiments of other scientists concerning the study of small particles of matter in magnetic fields and/or concentrated light rays. Fine powdered material, for example silver, copper, chrome, coal etc. and even fine water droplets were introduced into evacuated glass tubes. As a tube was shaken the particles moved in suspension. If the particles were then exposed to concentrated rays of light, they started to follow certain paths, in that they turned into a path in a uniform way. Ehrenhaft wrote about this:

    "Totally new and surprising was that the particles' motion in the field was not straight, but flowed in screw-like paths with a most regular form, size and uniformity... drops of methyl orange for example ... moved in this way."

    Similar results were obtained when the particles were exposed to the influence of a magnetic field. Local gas flows or the 'charge' of the particles were no explanation for the screwlike paths that resulted, which remained unaffected by such influences.

    Also interesting was the fact that a centripetal power occurred that influenced particles 130 times more strongly than gravity.

    Ehrenhaft's comments on the tests:
    "It is improbable that these phenomena of motion in light or magnetic fields can be explained with the help of existing hypotheses; we may be forced to turn to new ones."
    Last edited by sucahyo; 03-30-2009, 08:25 AM.

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    • Sir william crookes understood the spiral motion too.
      Crookes radiometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



      Randy With do the candle/paper clip exp. when I can(thursday).I think Konstantin Meyl is the same thing but with a second sphere. In the same way that you now when someone is looking at you, from behind you!
      Last edited by Bodkins; 03-30-2009, 09:16 AM.

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      • Originally posted by barbosi View Post
        From Dale Pond's website:
        A major research institution (MRI) has recently announced the discovery of the heaviest chemical element yet known to science. The new element has been tentatively named Governmentium.

        Governmentium has 1 neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

        Since governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of governmentium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would normally take less than a second.

        Governmentium has a normal half-life of three years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause some morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

        This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to speculate that governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.
        LOL. So true.
        "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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        • Originally posted by Bodkins View Post
          Sir william crookes understood the spiral motion too.
          Crookes radiometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



          Randy With do the candle/paper clip exp. when I can(thursday).I think Konstantin Meyl is the same thing but with a second sphere. In the same way that you now when someone is looking at you, from behind you!
          the ideas about the candle, etc was to help pin more tails upon the donkey .. until it stops looking like a donkey... rule out what it is or isn't. more info
          means less doubt. allows more focus researching.

          Have you guys read this post here by Mutten in High Voltage from Thin Air? , read the next post of Mutten also.
          Sounds like the body is pushing upon the stress field around the circuit via
          whatever stress field is around a human.

          sucahyo,
          Oh, l do like the leveraged power finds like "influenced particles 130 times more strongly than gravity" .. I would have remembered read about that.
          That force is there, just must be canceled out outside of a vacuum some how.
          Just because you smell Ozone does not mean it explains the entire effect or
          then again it could. This stuff they call electric likes to come in PAIRS of effects. Does it not? start thinking about pairs.
          Wild guess, Isn't static always around electricity to some degree? I don't know.
          Pairs: bodkins' two kinds sparks
          Does magnetic go with static?
          What pairs up with the ions, static?
          I'm not saying there isn't more than pairs, it a little easier to find a pair than
          multiples..

          Ren, might know how to figure out where to plug in the juice into this thing?
          We could take that talk to Imhotep's forum if you can help me. I'm scared of it http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o.../flyBack01.jpg
          I could crank up a video of it, if that might help.

          I'm not sure I posted this in this thread ..
          another example of the unexpected (but should be excepted)
          These are rare images of the magnus effect of water following around a cylinder .. Remind you of anything?
          Last edited by Vortex; 03-30-2009, 11:33 PM. Reason: Highligthed "water following around a cylinder"
          Remember to be kind to your mind ...
          Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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          • I wont go off topic here mate, but this page might help?

            Sam Goldwasser's Flyback Transformer Circuit

            Havent had too much experience with flybacks yet.
            "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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            • cheers Ren seen it before but think I didnt understand it but now i do after playing with one of sometime.

              Randy
              Back in the days of the Imhotep light stuff I did, things got weird its about the time I started thinking on the lines of energy field around me and the time I start reading sir william crookes stuff,
              I had lots of videos on my old youtube that i had to drop because the band i was in whated the channel for music stuff not me playing with lights!
              Will repeat it all in time,
              And I think that ion IS statis after playing around theres dust all over my stuff and i get a shock for metal too!!
              also if i get one of the flyback working with the ren link I will post you one i have 4 flybacks(lots of tv in skips LOL)
              do you have a sg fan?

              sucahyo
              been reading the occult stuff CHeers its real good

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              • I still don't finish reading occult science too, have to read it slowly, and I imagine will have to read the Schaepeller book even more slow ....
                Reading occult science made me look at atom theory in different perspective.


                I come accross video:
                "The Extraordinary Nature Of Water - Based On The Theories Of Viktor Schauberger"
                video link posted here:
                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...er-hammer.html


                This video show how water spray create electricity. I think this kind of electricity is like the opposite of ion wind. Instead of the charge moving the water, the moving water is generating the charge. Wether the charge is the same as our ion wind is something we should find out.





                Edit, just found out that the name is:
                "Kelvin's Thunderstorm"
                Lord Kelvin's water-drop electrostatic generator
                Last edited by sucahyo; 04-01-2009, 02:26 AM.

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                • Here is another reference of kelvin water dropper:
                  High voltage device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm
                  Electrostatic device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm, 'Inline' version
                  Kelvin water dropper « MrGreen.Biz


                  Anyone tried electrostatic motor with ion engine?
                  Technology museum
                  Build an Electrostatic Motor
                  http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pftm2.htm
                  Super Simple Electrostatic Motor


                  About vortex, just an idea, if water processed in vortex has greater effect than water processed using magnet, how about fuel. Many already confirmed the increase in performance of engine with magnet in it's fuel line, including me. What if we flow the fuel using Schauberger method, it may make the fuel homogen and make it easier to burn?

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                  • hi
                    I have done the candle hv exp.
                    the problem is my camera is crap and cant see any thing because of the single light candle .
                    Right so i have to wrte it up, first i put the bottom end of the flyback to the candle the flame moves over the top of the wire if at right angle, so you get the flame as usual but at the point the wire is at right angle the flame moves towards the wire and looks to me like its puts over the top of the flame!

                    next the cup end of the flyback. This will blow the candle out if i move it towards the flame.

                    next both cup and bottom end 3in apart no spark or purple so called plasma.
                    But if i move the candle in, the purple plasma will start

                    next a spark going in a 1in gap without candle, if i move the candle in the spark stops but the sound of the spark is there.

                    sorry this is all i can do at this time,i have crack my wrist and in pain, will try and repeat with a camera.
                    take care all
                    Rx
                    thank for all the download stuff (free energy mags) randy people need to read this stuff

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                    • I hope you can get well soon. That is interesting effect .


                      I done some Schauberger experiment on copper, I notice something strange when I try to put copper in flower container. The leaf directly on top of copper tube with curled wire become dead overnight . I guess Viktor Grebenikov effect (the reason I post this here), bad influence of wasp house may be easier to replicate than what I expect. Don't know if it caused by the tube or by curled wire.


                      The next day, the whole leaf become yellow. Forgive the picture, I don't realize i take it at wrong angle.



                      Here is a video about how I confused a figure 8 winding getting dynamic resistance, while it actually happen because weak battery in my meter.
                      YouTube - weak battery causing weird coil resistance reading


                      I just remembered about what Peter Lindemann write about spinning ball.
                      http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/spinning_ball.pdf
                      The fact that rotating the ball alters its inertial mass is not predicted by any theory and is not covered by any text book. In fact, it is assumed that rotating the ball will make NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL.
                      I just see the relation between the way thing want/need to move in spiral with this. By rotating the ball the ball will have less resistance from air and from gravity. Like Viktor Schauberger notice on the movement of water in river or how trout can swim against the stream or jump upstream in a waterfall.

                      I think the answer is in spiralling movement. It may affect not just water, but also other thing in micro or macro level, including ball. Maybe this can be applied in electricity or magnetism too.
                      Last edited by sucahyo; 04-04-2009, 04:53 AM.

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                      • A different CLASS of electret .. not really an electret at all.
                        To use a different name or class it's petroelectricity or petroelectric energy.
                        Key phases: Self-Potential , semi-conducting , High-k dielectric

                        Understand this is NOT an electret and has a dynamic positive / negative terminals. Up being positive and down is negative, gravity related.
                        A cell flipped upside down will change continue to be positive on the top and negative on the bottom terminals. (see 196. Gravity Vector Sensors.)

                        These could be created WITHOUT using an initial HV charge.
                        John Hutchison uses HEATing, I'm not sure if he used HV to create his batteries.
                        Forget SMALL, large cells are just fine, 1 foot cubes for each cell?

                        Brown speaks of creating these without heat and without HV, both of
                        which would probably only enhance the end product.
                        The thought of creating something without heat and without HV is what is important.. Backyard mixtures ???
                        Lack of heating and HV is replaced by over-all SIZE of each unit?

                        Unlike a electret, it is not created via a "charge" or initialized via HV.
                        If instead of a rock, a mixture of some kind that solidifies could be found.

                        Unlike an electret, can delivery relative high current.
                        (Brown never states what the "current" is, just it is larger than a electret)

                        Unlike an electret, this is the battery instead of something due to low current can only be used to charge a battery.
                        Unlike an electret, can act like a battery and be charged and stores energy.

                        Unlike a battery, more like an electret, it does not use itself up or require recharging.
                        It would seem that rocks (and possibly other equivalent forms of dense dielectrics) will act as an electromotance when biased to the KV range. It is interesting to note that no bias current would be required. Hence, no current is consumed in the excitation. The output of the electromotance represents the net or usable gain. This gain, then, is the net conversion of gravitic energy into electrical energy. Its output is DC.
                        In the above circuit, as soon as the rock becomes fully biased (10 KV), it is generating a current in excess of the bias current. Minimum energy comes from the exciter and the system becomes self-sustaining.
                        Brown speaks about using pulses and diagrams a circuit, but NEVER tried it stating: "It is assumed that output voltage would decay after each pulse, as Fig. 2." This could cause SPIKES in current and voltage , we don't know. It was never tested.
                        Everything Brown did was with constant NON-PULSED voltage, no pulsed stress fields that might create SPIKES??!!!
                        Can this be pumped like a radiant circuit?
                        If a mixture can be found, does geometry of the cell focus the energy flow?
                        Brown speaks of ordinary Portland CEMENT to create cells stating:"The relatively low resistance of the Portland cement (binder) may provide a high current output."

                        Ref: Library of Archives Brown's Stuff
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                        Townsend Brown Battery Patent Application
                        Unexplained, voltage is too high,.. not explained by known physics
                        A 1,800 MILLIVOLT SELF-POTENTIAL ANOMALY NEAR HUALGAYOC, PERU
                        Last edited by Vortex; 04-04-2009, 10:38 PM. Reason: added ref http://qualight.com/library.htm
                        Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                        Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                        • Just wondering

                          If a magnetic field has spin or an electric current has spin, then that spin has a direction which depends upon the direction of current flow.
                          On a coil, when the winding hits the end and start back upon the coil,
                          that winding is going back upon the previous winding and has a reverse spin.
                          Each winding has a reverse spin of the previous winding.
                          If said spin is clockwise around the wire, as it is wound toward the other
                          end of the coil that clockwise spin is counter to the previous winding.
                          This seems to be counter productive and can't be helpful to moving the flow along?

                          A toroid coil is unique in TWO ways, it's a toroid shape and the windings ALL go in one direction without reversing. A spin around all the windings are in the same direction relative to each other.

                          Not having a clue and thinking out loud
                          Randy
                          Remember to be kind to your mind ...
                          Tesla quoting Buddha: "Ignorance is the greatest evil in the world."

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                          • Not a clue

                            @ vortex - when we 'don't have a clue' and reserve self judgement, the conscious mind is less likely to interfere with subconscious impressions.. I've done all my best thinking while daydreaming.

                            And what you said sounds right. Tesla said those in the art wind a coil up the spindle to the top. Stop, reverse slightly back but mostly straight down to base, then wind to top again.

                            I never had the patience, or was it time. :-)
                            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                            • An Interesting Link

                              Y'all?
                              Here is some interesting information I didn't get from the book. The book is also available here but is it worth the money for the one missing page?

                              Link; The Physics of the Primary State of Matter by Karl Schappeller - 12/17/08

                              Be sure to scroll on down the page to see the "extra info."

                              We are all getting enlightened.

                              Warren
                              ..
                              Men had been depending for too long on the authority of the great minds of the past and that they should rely more on their own resources in obtaining knowledge.
                              Francis Bacon

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                              • Mushroom

                                cheers mrbreau
                                will read tomorrow Ive got 10 pages open at the mo here are 2
                                Randy get on this http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/magvtx.htm

                                this one is a long one but I think needs reading from top to bottom


                                Quote"
                                It literally is the light of life. This is that part of your body that has
                                been there all of this time, that scientists can't find because their
                                instruments can't see it. They call it carbon because it has no absorption or
                                emission spectra and they assume therefore that it is carbon when, in fact, it
                                isn't carbon. That there are 11 elements that it could be but primarily
                                rhodium and iridium are the elements that are in your body right now. And
                                that literally they resonance connect and literally flow the light of life
                                perpetually in your body. And around your body you have a non polar magnetic
                                field which is called the Meissner field or they refer to it as the aura.

                                http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/hudson.txt

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