Free Energy and Grass Roots Activism

[jibbguy]

Here is my latest article in the political blogs on Free Energy, this time calling for a letter writing campaign to President Obama or other elected officials in your home countries.

OpEdNews » It's Time to Make Free Energy our Next Grass Roots Victory

I chose now to do this because i strongly believe the time is right for it.

I was inspired by the Orion Project's recent letter to Obama which says basically the same things. I am not affiliated with them in any way (or anyone else in the genre for that matter). But i do agree with them that now is the time to do this.

I would please ask that this not be turned into another thread about Obama, general politics, or the NWO (there others here already, and this is why i did not use the "Orion Project.." thread): It should be about Grass Roots Activism as it pertains to Free Energy.... Not any specific leader.

Should we write letters to our elected officials, demanding these technologies be properly studied? Is this the time for a full-court press and concerted grass roots movement? Obviously i believe it is, and that we should. I believe this is time of "cusp"; of "limbo" when a small push in our direction could have a magnified result.

All opinions are welcome on the below (or other on-topic ideas):

> Should we discuss this issue of grass roots activism at all.. And what about taking this to the next level of actual geo/political "movement"?

> What means are most effective in getting our Cause heard?.. how can we break it into the mainstream?

> What should be our Goals, and how do we best achieve them?

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Narcissistic Disclaimer: I am not trying to be anything other than a "concerned citizen" and half-assed "reporter" and activist who wants see some things that are important for all of us change for the better. I have no horse in this race, and no ulterior motive. If there was someone whom i agreed with pushing this cause i would gladly follow and help as i could; i'm a terrible "leader" and definitely don't want to be one. But i can't be intimidated nor do i worry about being fitted for a tin-foil hat.. so i make a decent loud-mouth

[redeagle]

I don't really understand what civil rights have anything to do with free energy. You are free to go and do any research that you want to. The problem with implementing these systems is as it always has been since they were invented. The free market economy is centered around energy and the pitt bosses that controll them. The companies control what you buy by controlling what is available. The only way our government can get these companies to produce these devices is to pay them. That money comes from our tax dollars. I don't know about everybody else but i'm fed up with the governement pulling money out of the tax pool and handing it to large businesses. And then raising taxes to cover the loss. And I flat out refuse to pay GE for the opportunity to pay them for a better light bulb.

What you are talking about will never fit in to our capitalist society. After all who is willing to do it for free? Our economy has to be fixed first other wise we will never get to where we the private free energy researchers want to be.

To quote from the movie Die Another Day, "A wise man seeks battle only after the victory has been won."

[Golden Mean]

Great link. I agree wholeheartedly that we need to change things from the bottom up... grass roots!
We ALL can find a way to use our gifts and talents to contribute to this goal. If a free energy device can be constructed from easily obtainable materials and that information can be organized and distributed over the internet via open-source... there is NO WAY "they" can stop it.

Peace,

[jibbguy]

Redeagle, maybe i didn't make that clear enough; Civil Rights was used only as an example of a grass-roots movement that was highly successful. I had no intention of equating that great movement to free energy other than that (...yer right they have little in common YET, lol ).

I believe in touting our victories, and reminding peeps that it is possible to beat the system... It has been done before and we can do it again

[Matthew Jones]

* redeagle
The free market economy is centered around energy and the pitt bosses that controll them. The companies control what you buy by controlling what is available. The only way our government can get these companies to produce these devices is to pay them. That money comes from our tax dollars. I don't know about everybody else but i'm fed up with the governement pulling money out of the tax pool and handing it to large businesses.

Well they are already paying big buisness to buy small scale green energy like solar, wind and hydro_electric.
You would be surprised at what alot of these companies and orginazations, especially coop power companies, are ready label as green energy, or emmision free energy.
Why then wouldn't it be benificial for them to buy anything that could be labeled green.

I know what the next excuse will be because everybody always says it. No devices exist that are even on the scale of Solar, Wind, and Hydro.
Well shame on you for not looking past the tip of your nose and puttin your money where your mouth is.

The time is right to push from all sides. If you can't do anything else print flyers and hand them out on some basic facts. Let it grow from there.

Matt

[Aaron]

grass roots free energy

Having a national press club meeting on free energy technologies I think would be useful.

At Greer's Disclosure Projects NPC meeting, I didn't see aliens (that I could recognize) or UFO's but there were "credible witnesses."

For energy technologies, there can be demos of ignition systems getting 40-70% increase in gas mileage, efficient battery chargers proving the concepts that potential can make things happen efficiently, etc... bringing mass coverage to Krupa's plug, etc... there are quite a few things that can be shown and demonstrated.

Even without a full blown self running permanent magnet motor to power a home, there are many practical technologies that can be shown to a live audience that defeat the textbooks and provide for practical solutions that just need to be build on a large scale.

The CLF circuits lighting them with more lumens per watt compared to the manufactures claims.

In addition to a grass roots effort, something like the press club coverage would be desirable.

The main grass roots efforts that seem to have had any serious impact by any amount of people in the free energy technologies so far is the internet forums so the grassroot effort is already on its way.

It just hasn't hit the mainstream big enough and has stayed in the realm of do it yourself hobbiests.

If the Project Disclosure model can be done for this, we may have retired execs, etc... from different branches, offices, companies, etc... coming forward admitting we already have all the solutions and they are being shelved.

[jibbguy]

Orion, MSM, Krupa = Sounds like a possible plan

Those'r some great ideas

I really wish the peeps at Orion would embrace Open Source: They appear to be allergic to talking about their F-E projects. They could be a very nice resource to us all: Dr. Greer has those connections from the Disclosure Project which could be invaluable for gaining credibility (there are many names on the Disclosure list that "ooze" scientific credibility and who would make great proponents for F-E).

Personally, i often worry about mixing U-foes in with F-E... Seems like we will have enough to worry about without the added skeptism... This is purely a practical matter of tactics and has nothing to do with personal opinions of validity. But i know others' here whose opinions i cherish disagree: It is a question needing examination perhaps.

The US mainstream national media is a tough nut to crack. Local news outlets are easier; But it is true that we need the MSM to succeed fully.

Local news can be very effective: Without the wide distribution of the You-Tubes of the Columbus TV station's coverage; Meyer's claims would have had far less credibility and impact. In the end, i guess we will have to take what we can get and leverage it to the max, hoping it eventually "breaks out" into the national news.

Mr. Krupa has sort of dropped off the net for the last 5 or so months, i fervently hope he is OK. By now he should have had lines operating in Brazil, China, and other places if his previous plans had worked out (..although many of us could have predicted endless roadblocks..for whatever reasons be they "normal" competitive/business, or sinister). I am hoping that if he is completely blocked, that he come here or to OU and try another route He is aware of these places, and once told me that he reads them. I hope the few independent replications did not turn him off to the Open Source community: And that he understands that they can only help him in the end... Everyone knows who the inventor is. The potential market is so huge that 10,000 successful replications would be less than 0.01% of it.

[redeagle]

I know what the next excuse will be because everybody always says it. No devices exist that are even on the scale of Solar, Wind, and Hydro.

That will be the corporate excuse, but John Bedini has a free energy device that has been running for nearly 30 years. Rick Friedrich sucessfully made a self runner and posted his information to the public. Nikola Tesla, Ronald Brandt, Jim Watson, and others have have whooped free energy already. And I'm still waiting on Stanley Meyer's black box that powered his dune buggy.

It is not the inventions we are waiting on. It's a small group of elite businessmen who don't don't care about us and are believed to be associated with several of our presidential assinations or attempts. As long as their pockets are lined deep enough to continue to pay off inventors and manufacturers we won't see the devices unless we build them ourselves.

[Matthew Jones]

Like I said when it looks profitable for them they will change their mind. It has become a profitable buisness to buy small scale green energy. It is adventagous for them to label energy sources as green for these profits.
That is NOW not tommorrrow or next week but NOW. Not all companies have signed up for it but all companies have the abilty and the federal legislation to get funds for it. They also have the ability to borrow money to invest in a modern grid so they can buy it.

Don't sit around and think this is out of your control. That the high cabal is inevitably going to reject it. Whether they do or not, is not the controlling factor. The controlling factor is whether people demand it or not. Whether it is availible or not. Whether the technoligy exists or not.
Can you make it availible. If not, can you inform people.If not can you write letters..... I think so... You just posted.

I'm not trying to pick on you but you were the first one to come off negative. Someone always does.

I'll tell ya from personal experience. People don't know anything about power. But they can read a volt meter. Thats a plus if you spread the word.

Go radio shack. Get 3 9volt batteries (rechargeable), a bridge, and a 9 volt motor and some test leads.
Carry them in a bag with a volt meter every where you go.
So you can back your MOUTH UP.
Show them a half a tesla switch. 2 batts in series (at 18 volt) flowing into a single batt that has been slightly discharged.
Show them the motor turns and you can reclaim 50% or better of your energy. If they want to measure take the time to show them how.

Explain to them that if it were 1 hp conventional you would be consuming 750 watts (+-). If you reclaim 1/2 that 1hp only cost 325 watts.
1hp on the shaft easily produces 600watts.
They'll figure it out.

Everyone I know, believes in free energy, because of that little display.
When they get more curious I show them better stuff, or let them explore it themselve with some guidance.

Its too easy to get alot of people informed. Its too easy to collect names and numbers or emails for petitions. Its too easy to print standard letters and get people to sign them.

There are to many of us not to do somthing.
But the general attidute has to change. We aren't under the thumbs of big buisness. No matter how hard they try to make you feel that way.

Cheers
Matt

[Aaron]

low power fm stations

The US mainstream national media is a tough nut to crack. Local news outlets are easier; But it is true that we need the MSM to succeed fully.

It shouldn't be attached to ufo's and aliens...definitely a stand alone topic that can go further without extra controversy.

LPFM stations (low power fm) under 100w transmission power are a growing grass roots movement that aren't extremely independent. They use the space in between major stations. There are many topic for these stations but overall, most are to provide community information. The demographics that listen to these stations are small but growing and are not to be underestimated.

Many dedicated to community issues, etc... have enough space to have your own show once a week without much problem...many are struggling to get good content...fill them up with shows on these topics!

[Bodkins]

Hi all
The evidence is there for free energy FACT!
but a company will never sign up!
Im in the uk so if its a Movement it needs World Wide Movement,
We need everyone ALL making a Free energy device at the same time!
One device that everyone can make and Enjoy !


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[ashtweth]

Steve rulz

GREAT THREAD PROB ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
great info form energetic members also as usual.

Jib, we can relay some of this, we have the international podium at greenfest.com.au (governments and MAINSTREAM PRESS)
WE will have the GEET, Imhotep and many others there,(supporting open source engineers) i can hand these out too Bro..Jib KEEP GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

Adding to the web site for you too my friend.

Sincerely
Ash

[ashtweth]

Any thing you want on the page let me know guys all is backed up.
Evidence of Concern

Here it is the first page in history which is collecting LEGAL petitions to help bring in FREE ENERGY. PLEASE SIGN IT GUYS

The signing also goes to ALL the issues presented on our activism page (objective) so far 3000 and counting, more will be after a public face which the organization intends to create to support all. We will be asking the public at greenfest.com.au to sign this, that will have A LOT of people

GROUND WORK LIKE THIS IS WHAT FREE ENERGY IS LACKING
Kudos to the energetic forum, from an avid activist and member Jib thanks a lot for doing this let me know if any thing needs adding to there.
jib always does this, comes out without brilliant string of the pot and makes me feel like i have had 3000 pounds of guarna (natural coffee)LOL


Ash

[Aaron]

send a letter page

It would be useful to have a page that anyone can go to, fill out contact info for a pre-made letter on the issue going to their own reps based on their zip code or whatever. As far as the states goes that is...address considerations for other countries...same page or different.

This has worked tremendously well for the supplement and natural health industry.

Anyone here able to set something like that up? We can definitely get some traffic flowing to it.

[Aaron]

online petition

I just found this Ash,
Panacea Petitions

How are those being handled and how are they being sent?

The online campaign by Craig Winters for GMO foods labeling requirements, etc... had the largest turnout for petition signers than anything since the Viet Nam War protests. It was all done online so these things work if done carefully.