CloudSeeder's Gravity Wheel on Fire

[protecheqp]

not to be a nae sayer BUT you guys do realize that the torque you developer in a gravity machine is equal to the plus load of the balance + being what ever object you put on the + side so if you have a 1 0z ball or a 1lb ball that is your limit .....before stall ... now in a bouncing ball scenario you have to look at the chaos theory as a bounce is not predictable 100 % of the time ....now also fling out or centrifugal force in comparison to weight drop is like apples to a big bag of potatoes ,,,

you sure you want to proceed on this course .. but hell i lub the reading

[protecheqp]

now figure why this works right away..this is not my original concept but a take off of a machine never designed to do what it does this machine component of a larger machine that makes envelopes and the weights are crippers that hold a envelope transfer to a seal drying chain .. i as a young man was setting up this machine and as a proccedure it was necessary to adjust the envelope drop so that the seal that was wet would not land on the bar that held the envelope in place .... cool eh
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but i loosened the gear that drove the unit ..now this was a well worn machine and chains and all were well worn . and holy chit i dropped my wrench but as i picked it up the whole unit was moving .. my panic was to hit the stop button as i thought the machine was powered .. but it was not ........it was just moving .. lo i ended poking at it till it stopped but its force was equal to my poking ......get the point

after reading what you guys are trying i decided to start making nonsense machines in small versions to sell for desktop exs .. at a large price thank you

guess its not fair to not tell you i am a machine designer but usually for automation in auto industry gues i should post some of my work

the folowing is a machine to take the place of starofoam pellets its a paper twist thing ..that 1 little roll under the machine produces the resulting bags of product ... and no i never made a million out of it just sold it for $10,000.00

[CloudSeeder]

Yep, lots of variables. The designs I put on page 7 I guess I didn't show it but there's a little bump on the platforms that holds the ball til it reaches the same angle every time around, dropping the balls at the same time <> so it actually does have a timing mechanism to prevent all that stuff from happening.

I'm glad you're sticking around for the finale.

[CloudSeeder]

I see why it works, on paper. Is anyone using it? I worked at Double Envelope a while -also as a young man- but I was pulling stock out to the cutters mostly. So, they had a gravity machine and didn't know it. Yes, that's cool. It could've been pulling water out of a well in Ethiopia a few decades already. I somehow doubt the Ethiopians would be amused.

Thanks for sharing your success story. But if you want to share more stories you should start a separate thread, don't you think? People won't find your success stories on this thread.

[protecheqp]

I see why it works, on paper. Is anyone using it? I worked at Double Envelope a while -also as a young man- but I was pulling stock out to the cutters mostly. So, they had a gravity machine and didn't know it. Yes, that's cool. It could've been pulling water out of a well in Ethiopia a few decades already. I somehow doubt the Ethiopians would be amused.

the machine was a lo opend end machine and go back to my post more info and i lub what your doing guys dont stop and it was never about my sucess its about trying things

[CloudSeeder]

Yes, I was understanding it was never about your success

"i decided to start making nonsense machines in small versions to sell for desktop exs .. at a large price thank you"

[CloudSeeder]

Your name protecheqp could be mistaken as a shortened form of ProTechEquipment.

[CloudSeeder]

For the Record

For the Record => Protech Equipment Company

[CloudSeeder]

Helpter system &gt; put it on here by Friday after I get it working.

That was interesting. Anyway, I found out today that all the fishing supply places and K-Mart too have stopped making the sliding fishing weights with the big hole down the center. They have all switched to a much smaller hole. The prospect of having to bore each one out larger wasn't something I cared to do so I bought smaller ones and will put a big dent in their sides and bind them around with wire.

Just another hurdle.

A new company in Ohio I think was reported recently they have made a new type of solar panel, apparently printing the metal onto a thin stainless steel sheet. Multiple sheets can be rolled up and then rolled out across people's roofs. So you can scratch off the solar innovations from page 7 now. Obama doesn't need it.

We have TECHNOLOGY riding to our rescue.

Big hammers and small hammers <> no need for smarts.

I'm suspending work temporarily on my gravity wheel system
and temporarily switch horses. My working on my system isn't
helping anybody else make full use of their time, so I'm going to
build the "helper system" I believe a lot of the other guys can add
to their systems that will help bump theirs past the rebound stopper.

See if I can't put it on here by Friday after I get it working.
Those who have their weekends free can then try it out.

[CloudSeeder]

Helper system not much help for continuous-run systems (Slovenia, smack plate).

Stealth: I don't think the helper system will help your Slovenia wheels. Slovenia wheels and my smack plate wheels are continuous-run systems. Adding my helper system would inject stoppers. But all those other fellows using pendulums, long boards and hammers with latches, should do something for theirs.

Which I should clarify a bit that I think every one of their systems are great systems, and have told them so many times. Adding my system doesn't take away from anybody's labors & products.

I would like to see all of them working and

every man carrying his device across the finish line.
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[Stealth]

I canibalized my Slovenia wheel type machine long ago. I needed the wheel for another machine and the steel balls are somewhere in my special project box. I could slap another together if I needed to, but right now I am concentrating on my own gravity machine and my water turbine system. I think I have the gravity machine designed for self running capability. So now I am still waiting on my materials for my water turbine. I have seen several designs on here that show promise, but all seem to have point of equalization. Good Luck. Stealth

[CloudSeeder]

The water turbine should be a piece of cake. The water is falling ANYWAY so may as well harvest some energy out of it.

[CloudSeeder]

Yeah. Gravity machines shouldn't be that hard. If it's a two arm machine it only has to reach 181 degrees, or a 3 arm only 121 degrees, perhaps a bit over 1 degree should be a done deal. All of us having this great Al Gore Internet to discuss these things has speeded up the work.

[CloudSeeder]

Informing the President

I made a decision yesterday to inform President Obama about some of my work. In November 2003 I had faxed President Bush and also VP Dick Cheney and told them briefly I had fixed Dr. Abraham Hertzberg's air-powered engine to be a dynamo, a power house engine. Someone in the White House undoubtedly shielded them from my discovery but, since they are the LEADERS OF THE PACK I decided they should be aware of what the pack is up to.

Only later did I find out they were both members of Big Oil, which is also located a lot of big oil tanks in Cincinnati Ohio btw... so even though I was showing them proper respect it was quite a waste of faxing electrons.

But last night I thought well, Obama is a new horse in the stable let's see what he can do. So I used the White House mail system. No response today so I thought well, try again and write a better letter with a bit more info. Hit the Send and it deleted my 2nd message. That tells me all I need to know. The Energy Czar Chu is in control, and he is owned by somebody who does not care for pollution free engine systems like all of mine are. So yet another President of the United States has been isolated and poof, time for the next Election.

hahahahahahahahaha Poof <> Puff the Magic Dragon, luck indeed.
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[CloudSeeder]

The game is surround the new President and keep him as Energy stupid as a door knob.

It's good to know who your enemies are and that they intend to play only their cards all the way til the end. The game is surround the new President and keep him as Energy stupid as a door knob. You can gain valuable insights from negatives as much as positives.