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  • Hey man, the only thing I can think of right off hand is a clamp used to hold a horn, or mirror on a bicycle handlebar. I don't know what diameter your hub is, so I don't know if that would be big enough or not. Those are made out off plastic or metal, or maybe you could use a hose clamp. I hope this helps. Good Luck. Stealth
    Last edited by Stealth; 07-11-2009, 12:28 AM.

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    • Thanks Man. It's 5/8 inch, bout like a hose or handlebars just like you said. Looks like I'll be having to whittle one out like I need... but I haven't walked around Lowe's or Northwest True Value Hardware in a couple weeks. I'll get over there and maybe I'll get lucky, avoid the work.

      Naw.

      If I had some of that Billy Mays hardener I guess I could fashion one real quick and have the smaller dowel rods all ready to insert in at intervals. I might do that instead.
      Last edited by CloudSeeder; 07-11-2009, 03:41 PM.

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      • Plastic Bolts and Nuts, Wrapped to the Hub with Wire!

        I just had a brainstorm better idea. If I could find some plastic bolts and nuts I could make the posts with the nut against the hub (dowel)... then wrap a wire around the hub over the nuts, twist em tight. Without having to drill the hub. If I do it right I could move them til I "dial" them to the right position.

        The bolts do not have to be big diameter so I can keep the
        weight down using slender bolts if they have to be metal.
        I don't want bolt weight to mess with the equation.
        Last edited by CloudSeeder; 07-11-2009, 05:27 PM.

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        • Stealth: On second thought a horn clamp would be plastic eh? If I can get one and Superglue the nuts onto the clamp... I believe that might work really well. I greatly appreciate the help!

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          • Temperature / Moisture Changes

            Before I go adding anything to my two-armed Gravity Wheel I happened to give it a spin, make sure it still did what it did before (almost make it). It was very interesting because it went around a tad but noticeable bit longer this time, doing one extra weight hit. The dry air must make a difference. This is a significant finding because when do our devices tend most to FAIL but when a room filled with moisture-exhaling reporters is present?

            Lugging down the device with heavy air in the way.

            From this point on I will consider encasing my devices before showing.

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            • Why the Gravity Wheel Delay?!

              I imagine a number of people (a few?) following my progress have wondered why I haven't went ahead and DONE IT ALREADY instead of just typing around the bush. There are reasons; I haven't taken a vacation. I aim to beat the beast before August 31. The last few posts and some other ideas have me back on track.

              The wheel so far has come within 97-99% of the continuous spin, so the additional "helper" system has to be enough to go over while still avoiding over-correction; <> this is where the fine-tuning is done. That's why I was forced to wait for the ideas to make the helper system #1 addable to the permanent system already on the hub plus #2 adjustable on the hub. Making it "addable" also makes it subtractable, that I can easily & quickly pull it off and make changes, "the "fine-tuning".

              One main issue that has yet to be reached through this adding and subtracting is whether this add'l system should be also an opposed system or it should be a tripled system. I'm thinking that since the opposed system came so close already that I will first do another two-opposed system, which will have the main system doing the main work and the helper system giving the needed push.

              Hmm. I should probably do all this on a separate hub first. Yep.

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              • Good to see your still at it. I haven't had time to do much lately, as we are working lots of overtime right now. When I get a chance, I will start building some of my projects. It seems the closer I get to solving the worlds problems(HA), the more interruptions I get dealt. Oh well. When we get off this overtime cycle, I can maybe, finally get started. Looking for a bad winter this year, from the predictions. Be prepared. Good Luck. Stealth

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                • Cross Valley Forge &lt;&gt; To Do A Gravity Wheel?!

                  Thanks. I came up with an idea after that last post too, to use this metal strapping comes in the roll to make my two-sided hub mount pieces!!! so I'm real excited to get to work. I've been stopped by some really weird stuff. My entire left wide was falling into dislocation, the shoulder, the collarbone and even some ribs, but last week after trying some new nutrition products one day they all decided to go back in pLace through the day. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. They was so much had slipped out of joint I didn't know it happened as it was so subtle. Then last night as I laid down, my crazy right shoulder cracked loose. Apparently it was "frozen", what usually happens to yer shoulder blade right?

                  DO I HAVE TO CROSS VALLEY FORGE TO GET THIS DONE OR WHAT?!
                  I SURE HOPE THE OTHERS AREN'T HAVING THIS GARBAGE.
                  .... I still have soreness to work out but soon I'll
                  .... set that strap in place & superglue it.

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                  • Flying Cars Anti-Gravity Detailed Report and Analysis 7132009:CloudSeeder:Riley

                    A Word Today about Anti-Gravity and Flying Cars

                    Progress on building my Gravity Wheel would go faster if I didn't keep finding something else to write about <> but I have to decide which takes the higher priority, writing or building. Since Writing always precedes Building I have so far decided to do the writing first and find time (energy, health) to do the building later. Not terribly Off-Topic really; still about Gravity having us locked down helpless on this planet. I have grown tired of being helpless, grown tired of hearing cries, grown tired of people thinking we men are dropping the ball => http://www.newpath4.com/betrayedbymo...velbarrier.pdf

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                    • Other Ways to Skin a Gravity Wheel Cat! Three Thumbs Up is a Lock:

                      @All: Still with me? Good. Remember the two-arm drawing still? Good. Put the extra sliding fishing weight on the metal thread strung from the near-middle extended rod over to the point where the hinge is then adjust it to get the angle right for the degree of slide desired. That should do it then, w/out needing a "secondary helper system" on the hub.

                      As George Peppard said on The A-Team => I love it when a plan comes together. By using the threaded arms as the fishing weight support I've not added any extra weight to the system but weight that's doing Work.

                      Use the springs from fountain pens to allow for a lesser angle to the wire.
                      ....
                      Last edited by CloudSeeder; 07-18-2009, 01:11 PM. Reason: 1. Use the extended rods not a new mounting 2. only add weights that do Work 3. use fountain pen springs to provide some bump

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                      • Apco Electric Power Fires Second Rate Increase At Customers:

                        It didn't take very long for Apco Power Company to pump in a second increase "request" on their customers! One request for money money was put in before my post above http://www.energeticforum.com/58460-post336.html which I think was for 23% but I'm not certain on that because I was too busy lowering my bill... thinking I was actually WINNING on something for the first time in recent history.

                        The 2nd rate increase is for 19%? 13%? Whew, it went flying by too but this time it blanked my brain to shut off momentarily. Anyway, unless I'm mistaken those two increases will bring me back up into the $80.00 a month range. My win was temporary. Howsomever, there big win is also temporary because I'm not the only people out here about to pull my money out of their bank. There are others such as now get a big breath => Power 4 Home

                        Apco knows the wolf has come to their neck of the woods now and he ain't just a-huffin' Dixie. Wolfie is carrying windmills and solar panels and his pickemup truck loaded down with gravity wheels. My suggestion to APCO is that they best start working with their electric customers and partnering with us before a mass Exodus out of Egypt occurs and leaves them standing roasting in the hot desert sun with their arms loaded down with coal buckets and worthless coal stocks stuffed in their portfolio pants.

                        Electric meters went on th' houise <> Electric meters can come down off'n the house too.

                        That's my word to the Apco chief, a word of life (transition) or my word of death (defend the fort).

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                        • Robert Kostoff 3-Arm Solution

                          Robert Kostoff's 3-arm solution turned out to be correct for his device using centrifugal force the way it did + gravity... so there's a high likelihood imho that 3 arms may be the solution for my extended arm/hinged swinging weights design. However, since the one I built came so close to continuous spin I feel compelled to play that hand out first using the sliding weight helper system & tweaks.

                          Because if I succeed in getting it to where each arm can take a bite out of more than 180 circle degrees it will be highly likely (imho again) that then converting the two-arm design to 3-arm would make it all the more powerful. My genius older son came by yesterday and looked at it for the first time, so of course he immediately pointed out a few ideas I had missed. hehe

                          He always was like that. So his contributions spawned a couple new insights for me later on. I'm starting a whole new project board, leaving the first one intact. His boy liked it. I reckon it does look a lot like an amusement ride sitting on the table. His broad smile tells me it would later make other children smile also, so it has value to leave as a pattern for a toy later, perhaps a teaching toy.

                          So on this next one I'll correct for the hub being too small a diameter, throwing too much load on the rest of the design to do all the work, harking back to the steam toy from 100 AD/CE I showed the small picture of several pages back.

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                          • Nope, didn't work putting the sliding weight off the hinges over to the extended threaded arms. Worth a shot to try anyway. Picked up some new skills. Looks like putting the weights near the hub is a better idea. Most of the other guys know that adding the weight farther out added to the weight needed to spin so it actually spun fewer times than without them, which surprised me. I expected it could cancel out but doing less spins is strange.

                            Whenever I fix one and try it I always try spinning it backwards on the chance I could possibly achieve a backwards design that works....

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                            • Fountain Pen Spring was a bit stiff and long

                              @All: Turned out that the fountain pen spring was too long and powerful.

                              @All: Decided to make each arm as a separate screw-on unit. That way can add arms faster for trials.

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                              • Studs on Hub

                                @All: Obviously, adding some screw-in studs for the arms trials would be ideal if I can locate what is needed

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