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  • What the "Gravity Wheel Winner" will look like? July 24 2009 Friday update:

    @All: I have a sneaking suspicion that the Either-Or question ~whether the opposed arms or the 3-legged Kostoff solution is best~ will turn out to be that the Gravity Wheel Winner will be so "right" that it will work no matter whether the arms are Even or Odd groupings. If one arm is right they may very well all be right however many are place on the hub.

    I want to favor the 3-grouping because one is happening (Present) the next is coming (Future) and the 3rd is already happened (Past)... so that once it is given a spin start it's never satisfied to stay still. It's locked in an unsatisfied state that should never find resolution; and yet they usually do get resolved by friction. Eliminating the friction would make a gravity wheel locked in Time, Present Future and Past constantly exchanging places.

    You would think friction could be easily resolved by using an axle grease that becomes more fluid as it warms, but unfortunately when grease warms it slides out of place and you're back having more friction. If we had powerful enough magnets holding the axles suspended, or if we had the axle ends in an air-contact-only suspension of some type, that would be the end of all friction holding these devices back.

    But how to create the vacuum of space only in the axle ends?? It cannot be
    done because it would introduce too much wobble. How to create a bubble
    of air for the axle ends to ride on??? An airtight seal would stop the axles
    from even turning! A dialable electromagnet above the metal axle ends?
    Yep. But that would be cheating.

    A Gravity Wheel would not generate enough power to #1 power two electromagnets enough upward pull to suspend its own weight <> #2 plus spin its own weight <> #3 plus turn a generator... but the electromagnets could, after all, be powered by a windmill and solar panels combined system's battery bank... Certainly would work!

    At any rate, the #2 design -which I have not released or shown in any drawings- will work because it borrowed somewhat one of Kostoff's tricks. The #3 design came very close to achieving continuous spin but even if it had I'm unsure it would have also turned a generator. I've also built the #4 Gravity Wheel now and while it should have exceeded #3, it did not; it added too much weight to total weight. But in being worse it showed me a major flaw in them all. I believe #5 has the greatest chance of all my designs including the first ones, the disks. It looks like it will work whether a triple arrangement or opposed arms arrangement. It has Winner written all over it. #5 is projected to get done sometime in August, still keeping in mind my earlier commitment to August 31.

    When we cross this wall there won't be any turning back. ~ CloudSeeder, July 24 2009, a Friday
    ....
    Last edited by CloudSeeder; 07-24-2009, 04:39 PM. Reason: Still committed to August 31. When we cross this wall there won't be any turning back. ~ CloudSeeder, July 24 2009, a Friday

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    • There are not any failures,just temporary setbacks. If everything was easy, then it would have been done a long time ago, by a lot of other people. There was a contest in Great Britian during the early 19th century. It was to figure out how to harness free energy. Many thousands tried, but failed to sustain one machine to a self running state. There were some good attempts though. They didn't have the materials and access to knowledge we have now. It is time to finally succeed once and for all. Just remember Murphy's law. Good Luck. Stealth
      Last edited by Stealth; 07-25-2009, 12:00 AM.

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      • Perhaps Murphy's Law has a converse yet to be uncovered. The current design I'm working on, if it works it's going to twist people into a pretzel. Like your stainless sleeve. It's tough on the brain working on these darn things. It's no wonder so many have failed. This is the worst ring fight I've ever been in. This is John Sullivan and Jack Dempsey territory.

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        • ../renewable-energy/4544-zero-friction-all-gravity-wheel-designers-listen-up.html

          Today a new thread was begun => http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post62181 <> for maximum visibility to all inventors working on their own Gravity Wheels. Some may be able to use it to achieve continuous spin.

          The idea includes =>

          1. toilet bowl floats (or balls) on each axle end.
          2. shed-water off the balls with cooking oil spray
          3. toy arrow tips: suction cups + superglue-attached as axle connections.

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          • New Age of Energy Plenty &lt;&gt; Keep Your SUV a @50+ MPG Mist Turbocharger Steamer

            For anyone interested in my other energy source ideas this morning I posted them here => Four important new Energy Source posts // Current

            A New Age of Energy Plenty has arrived. What that means is ... for one thing I've shown how to turn gasoline and diesel engines into a steam engine ... by spraying water through a turbocharger to turn it into a mist. All your SUV's and pickup trucks with the simple addition of such a converted turbocharger would be getting 350% better fuel mileage.

            One new turbocharger and your vehicle will run for many thousands of miles without needing an overhaul, while getting 40-60 miles per gallon. This is not hocus-pocus or rocket science <> it is the expansion explosion characteristics of water. When the diesel fuel or gasoline flashes hot the H2O mist is instantly exploded at a ratio of 800:1 => INSTANT STEAM ENGINE.

            Tradeoffs? None. Engine runs more powerful using less pedal, plus the engine is being steam-cleaned as you drive and mist-cooled, cooling the engine that reduces piston ring wear and metal expansion-contraction is greatly reduced. So the engine runs cooler (lasts longer) and it runs cleaner (lasts longer).

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            • This will work. I have a friend who plays around with fuel mileage projects
              (just like me), and he was telling me when he used a windshield washer pump to spray a mist of water-alcohol into the throat of his carburetor. Water at 95% and alcohol at 5%. Anyway he kept adjusting this unit with a gage until it put a certain amount into the carburetor. He claimed his mileage almost doubled. The problem was with the windshield washer pump. It would not hold up for very long, as it was made of plastic, and was not made for continuous use. Good Luck. Stealth

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              • I doubt the plastic cared for the alcohol much. Alcohol softens plastic like pouring bleach on tires in winter for extra traction on ice and getting unstuck. They make much better pumps => Rio Aqua pumps, my son used one to make a water cooled cpu system. They're very reliable because they know if they quit you lose yer computer cpu right quick. And over on Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! they have some real good selection of DC-AC car converters to power it (because it's 110)... so you could run it off the battery, easy.

                These converters vary wildly in their plusses and negatives so look at every one to get the best. They'll have a battery detection that turns them off if the battery gets too low is one plus. I think one had some other shutoffs too. One of them as I recall some purchasers said it made lots of excess noise. Watch for that.

                I have two of those aquarium pumps. They run continuous, not spurts. I imagine the windshield washer pump was never expected to be put under a continuous load.

                I was thinking about putting a rotary axis spinning blower fan deal right on top of the carb and spray the water into the engine suction-spinning blades to make the mist... using the engine suction to spin the blower.

                Rio aquarium pumps => Startpage Metasearch

                Hammer down Stealth. Let us know!
                Last edited by CloudSeeder; 07-30-2009, 12:06 AM.

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                • Stealth: I would add this thought tho, that alcohol isn't doing anything much but costing money. You only need alcohol in the winter, keep from freezing.

                  And that if the system was made with 2 or 3 pumps and the 2nd and 3rd pumps only kicked in as the engine rpm's rose, I believe your friend would have done much better than just 200% mpg gain.

                  This system is similar to what Mr. Pantone's GEET engine does but, his uses catalytic converter heat while this system does completely away with needing a catalytic converter period, once it's specced out. So you know what that means. A catalytic converter is an engine horsepower Killer. Do away with it and your engine gets all that hp restored, meaning the gasoline can be scaled back even more.

                  My Maverick should be getting over 45 mpg without any horsepower loss, while the cars, pickup trucks, SUV's and RV's should be having even better percentage gains because their engines are much better than this old 302.

                  Nobody needs to feel compelled to give up their favorite vehicles traded in for a Yugo.

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                  • Double mileage would be 200% <or> 100% gain I reckon. Oops. I applaud your friend's enthusiasm Stealth. Sometimes we get excited over an idea and risk gumming up something with plastic. Next time, with the first experience under his belt, he'll cross the Finish Line. I suggest carrying a fire extinguisher, putting it on a clunker, or both. Away from bridges and tankers. Perhaps a kill switch on the dash to stop the 110V.

                    It would certainly be nice to use the gas tank for WATER and add a small tank for the gasoline.

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                    • @All: Earlier I think all the gravity wheel inventors agreed we were not "racing" against each other. Well, there is a race going on anyway in the US. The states are racing to build solar and wind energy systems. New Jersey just dedicated $515,000,000.00 to the race => NJ to more than double solar power generation // Current <> It is not a race between states it is a race again home-generated electric power point of service, on-site home power that each family controls.

                      Flip switch power stops people from learning electric responsibility, ever.
                      Flip switch power keeps people from needing to learn, so it is in reality
                      a degradation by the nanny state. What a strange situation this is,
                      that the nanny state raises all the funds it needs from the people.
                      They misjudge the race <> it's about more than electric power.
                      It's about supplying people's natural need to be raised higher.

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                      • @Stealth: Not RPM. Pumps geared to Vehicle Speed instead!

                        Stealth: On second thought, have the 2nd and 3rd pumps kicked on by increasing vehicle speed, not engine RPM. Each gear would be turning them on during acceleration. No good that way. Two pumps would probably be enough => one for City, with the #2 pump for Highway.

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                        • 50-60 MPG Win-Win List for OPEC, IRAQ and UAE National Purse:

                          Actually, raising gas and diesel mpg would make Saudi Arabia OPEC and Iraq, Dubai United Arab Emirates richer. Here => if our vehicles were getting 50-60 mpg then they could pump much less crude, thereby raising their take while doing less actual oil pumping. Crude could go to $200.00 a barrel with everyone's vehicle burning less fuel, right? Okay, so using less fuel would help the environment more, right? (Save EPA expenditures less $$$.) Okay, so helping the environment helps the planet but it also means a lot less $$$ being spent on oil spills into the oceans a direct plus result from just plain fewer tankers carrying the stuff.

                          1) OPEC maintains their oil wealth
                          2) OPEC vastly extends their oil reserves
                          3) Vehicles producing 15-25% of current pollutants
                          4) Cleaner air from no longer using catalytic converters
                          5) No need for United States increasing its offshore drilling
                          6) U.S. beaches more pristine for renewed/expanded tourism ($$$)
                          7) Mid-West (Wyoming, Colorado, Montana) not drilled into Swiss cheese!
                          8) At 50+ mpg an easy pump price increase to $7 a gallon = instant 300% stimulus of tax & road repair monies

                          All I see is a long string of WIN_WINs for everybody, here, there, everywhere.

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                          • Chevron, Exxon-Mobil and Shell Oil see 300% increased profits + no new refineries:

                            Chevron, Exxon-Mobil and Shell Oil see 300% profit increase + no more need for increased refinery construction.

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                            • Gravity Wheel #5 Axle - Dowel Rod Assembly &amp; Mounting Bolts Picture



                              This is a picture of my dowel rod axle (hub). The plastic threaded things are a real tight -and square- fit on each dowel rod end. Before pushing onto the dowel ends a long black bolt is inserted through and that's your axle. The rest of the gravity wheel stuff will be bolted on the uprights.

                              The nuts drew the bolt into 100% square angle alignment.

                              Dimensions: 7 x 8+ inches, but the axle bolts are over-length. I decided not to bother cutting them, so the real dimensions necessary comes out 7 inches both ways. The cross member threaded rod will support the active pieces. I left them over length on purpose just in case later on it might need some counter weights screwed on.

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                              • My friend gave up after encountering a problem with his windshield washer pumps. I have an ongoing fascination with improving gas mileage. Here are some things I have done. First, I set the spark plug gap closer to increase amperage to the plug. Second, I drilled a i/32 hole down through the center of the elcrode that protrudes over the center. Next, I bought nonresistor wires. I bought a higher voltage coil. I advanced the timing to 12 degrees BTDC. I built a copper tubing heating coil for my fuel rail. On my 1989 Ford Bronco ll, 2.9liter v6,4wheel drive automatic I am getting between 35-40 MPG.
                                Not bad for a 4wheel drive SUV. Good Luck. Stealth

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