The Watson Machine

[nvisser]

good bit of info in this thread about the difference in charge between caps in parallel and series
Conservation of Charge violated?

Thank you Sephiroth
I read the thread and downloaded the pdf "the condenser problem"
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...lated-cond.pdf
on the 2nd last post
Very interesting read from page 8!
This is probably what you talk about and is also how the tesla switch operates. A guy called Double D post his solid state circuit on that thread where he switches with Mosfets and the fets run cold or freeze!

[nvisser]

vissie vissie, such mistakes are of noob nature my friend. You cannot that easy gain energy from 3 caps.
Regards,
Baroutologos

The 3 caps might be confusing
Look at this doc. at the double circuit with the 4 caps. It`s like the tesla switch.
http://www.keelynet.com/expcirc/flexflo.zip

[Sephiroth]

Does anyone have any insight into why the generator coils are shaped the way they are in the watson machine... they are counterintuitive for generator coils since the majority of the coil will be a great distance from the magnetic flux of the magnets...

[Sephiroth]

that's weird... would you believe I only just noticed the generator coils are NOT in phase!

[hherby]

Does anyone have any insight into why the generator coils are shaped the way they are in the watson machine... they are counterintuitive for generator coils since the majority of the coil will be a great distance from the magnetic flux of the magnets...

As far as I know, the flux is induced into the core of the coil. When the magnet leaves, the field in the core collapses and induces voltage on the coil.

I haven't tried this but say you took a soft steel rod 1 foot long and brought a magnet up to one end. The other end of the rod will have the same magnetic pole. The core is a conduit for the magnetic flux like a copper wire is a conduit for electricity. It extends the flux from the magnet through the rod. Now try it with a 2' rod. You should get the same result but the strength at the other end of the rod may be lower due to various losses. I could very well be wrong but that is how I think it works.

Alex

[hherby]

that's weird... would you believe I only just noticed the generator coils are NOT in phase!

Yes, I noticed that as well. The only reason I can think of is to reduce/eliminate magnetic cogging which would be quite strong if all magnets are aligned with all cores at the same time. Muller did this as well in his motor-generator. He also wound more windings on the ends of his cores furthest away from the magnet to reduce drag of back MMF I beleive.

Alex

[Sephiroth]

aahhhh... yes... both the fact they are out of phase and the shape of the coils makes sense if they are ferrite cores!

[Ted Ewert]

Does anyone have any insight into why the generator coils are shaped the way they are in the watson machine... they are counterintuitive for generator coils since the majority of the coil will be a great distance from the magnetic flux of the magnets...

I've wondered about that myself. The only thing I can figure is that they would cause a sharper pulse, since little or no flux is cutting through the windings as the magnet approaches and leaves the core. It's probably also a high impedance winding to reduce cogging (a long core is less efficient with a low impedance winding). That would be my guess.

Ted

[wrtner]

Guys check out the FEG book, John now has patent the Watson machine and tells how to do it! i cannot post it here

The Watson machine was disclosed in 1984. If he has a granted
patent, would it not have lapsed?

[Sephiroth]

The Watson machine was disclosed in 1984. If he has a granted
patent, would it not have lapsed?

A patent was never granted, but the FEG as covered by John's book is still his copyright as far as I am aware...

[Shamus]

There's a schematic picture of it on John Bedini's old website:

New Page 1

Mine has been on the back burner as I've been busy tidying things up around the house. But I intend to revisit this one once the new lab is built.

[sinergicus]

I think Ash (from Panacea) has a doc with quite a few details on the Watson Machine. Maybe he wouldn't mind if they're re-posted in this thread?

Aron;I understand you are close with John Bedini.You are friend with him.You visited him many times.Please tell him about us. He stated somewhere few time ago ,he will not speak about jim watson machine until somebody will stumble on it (his words).

We are here trying to replicate and understand his device.We are stumble on it by some time.
Speak with him;maybe he will agree to help us with advices.If he don,t have time, maybe is possible to keep in touch with him through you .By time to time
we will request him to answer at our questions and give us advice until we will
succeed in making a working prototype....

Mike

[Aaron]

@Mike

Hi Mike,

John has posted some comments on it I think in this forum and in some of
the yahoo groups I think.

He is very busy with his company and if he has time to post, it will probably
be in the tesla switch thread.

I don't recall right away, but it might be in Ash's doc that has the
references to John's comments.

[Turion]

Is anyone here actually building on of these and willing to share pictures, info, etc.? I am in the process and will gladly share mine. My coils are all wound and I am in the process of putting it together.

Just some info I wanted to share.... I cut my rotors out of 1/2 inch plastic that cutting boards are made out of. I drill a center hole (1/2 inch) on my drill press and then put the rotors onto my bench grinder in place of one of the grinding wheels. It has a 1/2 inch shaft, which is why I use shafts of that size in my builds. Then I can spin the rotors at 3600 rpm and use a file and sand paper to make sure they are perfectly round. I finished a pair tonight, and two is all I have room for on the grinder at one time. When I shut off the grinder I watched the two rotors slow down and stop. Then I put on two new rotors which were really roughly cut out and not very round at all. They made a heck of a racket when I turned the grinder on because they made it so out of balance. So I shut the grinder down to see if I could cut them out a little better on my scroll saw. It took FOREVER for the out of balance disks to stop spinning. So I started up the grinder again and timed how long it took for the rough disks to stop spinning after I hit the off switch. Then I put on the two round rotors I had completely finished with and tried the same thing with them. As you might have guessed, the out of balance rotors kept going long after the perfectly round rotors had quit.

Some people wonder why this device has a flywheel. There I believe is the answer.

My design won't be exactly like the Watson Machine in the FEG book. I will have rotor/4coils/rotor-rotor/4coils/rotor-rotor/4coilsSo/rotor-rotor/4coils/rotor. All of this is so my shaft will have some weight on it, so that when it gets moving it will keep moving!!! So mine will have 16 coils and six rotors. Should be fun.

[nvisser]

As you might have guessed, the out of balance rotors kept going long after the perfectly round rotors had quit..

That is something I never noticed as when the flywheel is out of balance the whole machine vibrate and jumps around.
Do you plan to do the switching with a commutator or solid state?
What capacitor size do you have in mind?
Vissie