High Voltage from Thin Air?

[barbosi]

@All

Just posted another video and this is of a single wire electrolysis cell where I have made the water one of the active electrodes.

YouTube is processing it now; remember search 'mrh2o2' and today.

YouTube - Heavy Oxygen, No Can't Be

Did you consider those bubbles are not H2 nor O2 but rather H2O? Much like fog production.

Regards.

[lamare]

I am trying to catch up on the overwhelming amount of literature exposed lately.

You might also want to take a look of the NASA publications I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post46942

Chapter 3 of volume II is all about longitudinal waves. It describes Dollards experiments as well as Tesla's flat coil and one-wire electricity as well...

[DrStiffler]

Worlds FIRST Wireless Electrolyzer

@All

Well if you can find water and tune into the power provider, you should be able to remove a lot of bulk from your H2 vehicle.

Kidding, this is just the Sperm of the things to come.

The Evil Monkey and the Guy in Sun Glasses...............

YouTube - Worlds FIRST Wireless Electrolyzer

[mudwump]

@All

Well if you can find water and tune into the power provider, you should be able to remove a lot of bulk from your H2 vehicle.

Kidding, this is just the Sperm of the things to come.

The Evil Monkey and the Guy in Sun Glasses...............

YouTube - Worlds FIRST Wireless Electrolyzer

My jaw dropped to the floor. Wow! I will try to build a replication.

[ABCStore]

Dr.,

a couple of points - could you post your schematics for the last video in detail? I.e. coil details, wiring etc?

Also, could you try connecting wires to the center of those balls, not to the surface?

ABC

[ABCStore]

I confirm this strange milky cloud being created... Wonder what that stuff is?..

ABC

[DrStiffler]

Dr.,

a couple of points - could you post your schematics for the last video in detail? I.e. coil details, wiring etc?

Also, could you try connecting wires to the center of those balls, not to the surface?

ABC

@ABCStore
I know where you are coming from on you suggestion of connection in the center of the ball. Yet think about this for a few minutes, if an impossibility. First consider a hollow ball, what is its center? With a single connection you still get the out of balance. Now for a solid ball, would you drill to the middle, solder and then fill the hole. The center connections is a theoretical convenience.

As far as circuits, not at this time. This is a major system and more is coming down the pipe. Have worked on 1 electrode and wireless cells for close to a year now and just now brave enough to show some of it.

[ABCStore]

Don't have time to try it right now but 2-SEC circuit should be a major winner in electrolysis process...

By the way, even though many different things point toward the sphere being the best shape, it could also be something like this: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com...rephotolg4.jpg

Back to my cave now...

ABC

[lamare]

Multiwave oscillator

I was looking for further information on the "Thomas Oscillator" mentioned by Dr. Stiffler, when I stumbled across the "Lakhovsky multiwave oscillator":

Georges Lakhovsky: Multiple Wave Oscillator (Patents & Articles)

What's interesting about this, is first of all the large bandwidth of the used signal, just like the (E)SEC:
http://www.rexresearch.com/lakhov/1m1a.gif

Secondly, it has an unusual antenna / coil configuration, as can be seen here:
http://www.multiwaveoscillator.nl/im...WO-Bodil30.jpg

Apparantly, this Lakhovsky also used another interesting coil geomery (attached pic).


Additional pictures of coil:
http://altered-state.com/lmwo/mwo.jpg
http://altered-states.net/barry/news...wmwoccoils.gif
http://altered-states.net/barry/news...mwoccoils2.gif
http://altered-states.net/barry/news...mwoccoils3.gif
http://altered-states.net/barry/news...wmwoccoils.gif

These might be interesting to play/experiment with.

[DrStiffler]

Worlds First Wireless Electrolyzer #2

@All

I received some personal feed back from the first video and what the concern was is that a few people felt the circuit was working on the close proximity (capacity) of the antenna ball and the lower cell ball. Well I failed to say the lower ball was not even needed, so I think some paid attention.

Anyway to clean it up and also show that addition drain can be added without the supply seeing it, I did another video, This clearly shows it is not simple capacity from what was the close antenna and cell balls.

YouTube - Worlds FIRST Wireless Electrolyzer #2

[DrStiffler]

Good video Dr. Stiffler. This should be a nice hurdle to overcome for us experimenters. I hope it wasn't my video that got that into peoples' heads, as I was just using the gate as a start to see if I could get anything out of my exciter with a non direct connection, and then proceed to a larger distance such as you have done.

@lamare

I like your ideas about the coils, and will give them a try. Have you had any luck with the caduceus coils?

@Freezer
No, no problem it was not your video. Along that same line if I get time this week I will pull from archive and get you a link to how to do it with the SGate. It works quite well, yet of course will not compete with the massively large current people.

Again time allowing I hope to get a video up on the Spatial Light.

Good work on your part and I hope you are learning a lot form doing it. That is what its all about, every one needs to learn then it will be part of humanity from today on. Just handing it over does no one a service, Thought, Research, Benefit. (TRB).

[DrStiffler]

Spatial Resonance of a Coil

@All

Okay, here is how I determine the Spatial Resonance Frequency of a Coil.

You should all do it so you understand and of high importance is the Spatial Profile when leads are reversed as shown.

You will need an SG with at least 10VPP Sine output with a range that will cover what you feel is important. With SEC this is 20MHz,

HV will be on the Ball, use care and DO Not direct the scope or counter.

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[DrStiffler]

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[lamare]

Regarding the speed of Longitudinal EM Waves ( LEMW ), what about this experiment ?

You would need an ordinary radio sender, ordinary receiver and two PCB sets like the one I have just published (TMT) + signal generator (SG) and a scope.

First you have the ordinary sender and receiver next to each other. The SG feed the sender, and the scope monitors the SG signal and the received signal to determine the propagation delay.

Next the SG feeds one TMT as sender, the receiving TMT is removed as far away as possible, still receiving from the sender. The receiver secondary winding feeds the ordinary sender, and the ordinary receiver is placed near the TMT sender.

Now the scope again can monitor the propagation delay, from the SG forth and back to the received ordinary signal. Corrected with the ordinary radio set propagation delay, "air time" can be determined. As the speed of the ordinary radio transmission speed is known, then it is interesting to see the magnitude of the remaining "air time"...

I have no radios, anybody with radios willing to try it out, two PCBs, two balls, two antenna telescope rods (with ball on top) for easy tuning between TMT sender and receiver, a signal generator and a scope ?

To determine the delays maybe a burst mode has to be used on the SG.

In the meantime, I will read some more and try making a new L3 as a flat spiral coil when tired of reading.

About the flat spiral coil: IIRC, Tesla's coil was bifilar wound.

About measuring the propagation speed:

I don't think you would need any radio. What you would need is a signal generator, a scope, a transmitter, a receiver and a bunch of wire.

What you could do, is place the transmitter and receiver say 30 meters or so apart, and simply feed the received signal to the scope trough a long wire. At this distance, the received signal should show a small delay, about 200 ns, 100 ns "air" and 100 ns "wire" time (assuming the signal goes trough the wire at the speed of light, but that doesn't really matter, since we're interested in the difference in TEM vs LE(M)) for a transversal wave. For a longitudunal wave, you should see something like a delay of 100 + 100/1.5 = 167 ns delay, a difference of about 30 ns.

As to my own experiments, well, I have nothing so far on this stuff. I'm still waiting for my winding wires to come in. Also, I have very little time for experimenting. I'm out of the door for about 12 hrs a day, and when I come home, I usually take the kids to bed, since I don't see them in the morning. That leaves very little time for experimenting during the week, and in the weekends, well, there's always lots of other things to do in and around the house. However, I spend 2 hrs a day in the train, so I do have time for reading and watching video's on my eeePc I download on a USB stick.

So far, I have been experimenting with the Gray tube. I have a simple copper rod of about 2 mm diameter as central rod, and a copper tube of about 12 mm as the reciever grid. It is pretty easy to get neon bulbs to light of the outer tube, when you feed HV pulses to the inner tube, but that's about it. I started using the output of my sound card as a signal generator to feed a MOSFET which switched an ignition coil, and did manage to accidentally close a loop that shouldn't shouldn't be closed -- just one spark of the HV into the ground lead of my sound card was enough to say permanently goodbye to my signal generator
Now I use a 555 as signal generator....

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I have been reading in the Nasa document I posted before ( http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...2005172301.pdf ) and there are some quite interesting things in there.

First of all, about the use of a spherical antenna, pg 60,61:

Dr. Meyl postulated in his talk given at the August 2004 Extraordinary Technology Conference
that conventional linear (i.e., nonspherical) transmitting antennas emit scalar waves at the
surface of the antenna. A vortex shape energy flow then transforms the longitudinal scalar
waves into conventional (Hertzian) transverse waves as the energy traverses the "critical"
distance from the near-field to the far-field, which is the wave length divided by 2 π.

At the receiving antenna, another set of energy vortices forms and transforms the transverse
waves back into scalar waves that enter the antenna, (i.e., essentially the inverse of what happens
at the transmitter). However, when spherical antennas are used for the transmitter and receiver
(Tesla's method), the scalar waves do not transform into transverse waves.

This explains the benefits of spherical antennas.

However, it also raises a question. The demonstration by Meyl did use spherical antennas, at frequencies around 7 MHz at a distance of 5 m at most, with a wavelength of about 43 m, with a near field of about 6,5 m.
So, in his experiments, he would be showing *only* scalar waves, if it is either true that with spherical antennas scalar waves do not transform into transverse waves, or if within the near field you only have scalar waves....

And still, Meyl shows being able to shield the TEM wave, and not the LE(M) wave... Of course, it't true that there is a wire feeding the spherical antennas, which probably work as an antenna, but that still does not explain everything. Apparantly, the key difference is the relative strength of magnetic vs electric component in the wave, both in the near field and in the far field.

There's also an interesting statement about the velocity of scalar waves at page 60:

Meyl states that unlike transverse waves moving through a given medium, scalar (longitudinal)
waves have a nonconstant velocity (Ref. 33, p. 469). The velocity of propagation of a scalar
wave oscillates at double the frequency of the wave and with opposite phase to the
corresponding field. This means that when the field is maximum, the wave velocity is minimum,
and vice versa. However, an average velocity of propagation of a scalar wave may be
determined and stated.

And, at page 51, we read another interesting statement, about the rate of decay of scalar waves:

The term "l/r dependence" means that the magnitude of the scalar wave varies inversely as the
distance from the transmission source. In contrast to this, the magnitude of the better known
transverse wave varies inversely as the square of the distance from the transmission source.

All in all quite an interesting read...

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To close up, a few thoughts about the wide bandwith of the (E)SEC and the similarities with the Gray tube. If you look at other cold electricity c.q. radiant energy stuff, you read quite often that it is all about "pulsed DC". If you have a block-wave and you make a Fourier transform, you'll see that you have a very broad sprectrum, just as you have with the (E)SEC. That suggests that maybe the transistor is steered so strongly in the SEC, that it actually produces a signal much like a block-wave.

If you have a broader spectrum, with more HF harmonics, you will get sharper rise-times, which might explain the enhanced phenomena when removing the 1M resistor during operation. I have attached a document about some Gray tube experimenters, which reported interesting results using Marx generators with high voltage, resulting in very fast rise times.

So, it may very well be that one of the keys is to be found in using block signals instead of sinusses, with very fast switching times. I can imagine that if you generate a high frequency block signal with very fast switch times in the MHz range, you may be able to produce about the same output with voltages a thousand times less as needed in the kHz range, *if* you get the rise time also a thousand times faster...


Oh, one more thing. If a high gain transistor is preferred, one tends to think about using a Darlington pair ( Darlington transistor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ). Would this be possible, for instance using an MPS06 to steer something with more muscles, or is this a no-go in HF???

[ABCStore]

@lamare

1. Block signal can be split in an unlimited spectrum (i.e. wideband) so, I think, you're right on the money there.

2. Darlington pair is useful when you need higher current so it's not applicable here IMHO

ABC