High Voltage from Thin Air?

[mudwump]

Love all this stuff guys.

Dr Stiffler I tried to replicate your wireless capacitor charger somewhat with what I had. I was able to charge a larger cap not shown in the video at 10000uF but it was much slower. I really was surprised at how much voltage was captured in the smaller caps.

I am wondering if an appropriate scaled analogue gauge is accurate enough to take readings from?

The light worked out really well for me this way too. Its more like a light bulb in the way it casts its glow.

Regards.

YouTube - Dr Stifflers SEC Wireless cap charger

Ren - I am impressed by your craftsmanship and video. Both are excellent. Thank you for sharing.

Have you done any energy balance measurements using the caps yet? The time it takes to discharge the cap when it runs the sec and the amount of time it take to charge the cap? I would be curious to see the time difference.

Thanks again.
Steve

[ren]

Ren - I am impressed by your craftsmanship and video. Both are excellent. Thank you for sharing.

Have you done any energy balance measurements using the caps yet? The time it takes to discharge the cap when it runs the sec and the amount of time it take to charge the cap? I would be curious to see the time difference.

Thanks again.
Steve

Thanks Steve.

I havent done any measurements bar drain times on known batteries.

I did a test all night (10 hours) last night and my 7 amp hour went from 12.10 to 12.05 resting. Made a great night light for the little one, and saved me having to turn on a 240v globe. I am looking at getting some better equipment soon.

I also ran a test on 24v, the difference is staggering.

Transistor gets a little warm on 24. It looks like its pulling in the range of 40 - 60ma, though I cant be certain yet. Its enough to illuminate the whole room with the leds placed accordingly. Still has that disco feel though, with all the spots on the wall just need a mirror ball.

[Tonysam1]

function generator Circuit

@Dr.Stiffler

First off, I need to thank you Dr. Stiffler for what you are doing for this community of energy experimenters. I can't even tell you how much i appreciated your videos on youtube and thread on this forum. It has truly been a godsend for my research. Thank you so much

Anyway, I ordered one of your new SEC 18 circuits which arrived on Saturday, since then i have devoting all my spare time to learning exactly how it work and it's interesting effects (which i believe i mostly understand now ). I wanted to take it a step further so i designed this circuit today in my dorm room lol:



Using a pc based function generator and oscilloscope i found the self resonate frequency of the l3 coil (it was around 5.2 Khz for that set up). Once it was tuned i could easily achieve oscillations with 100v peak to peak waveform. To my amazement the voltage drop across the resistor was 0, indicating no current... Which means, besides the cost of the function generator's oscillating circuitry, there was no power being consumed? Is this a good example of my LEDS using Coherent energy picked up for the resonate L3 coil?

Also, I really want to research this at my university (I'm an EE undergrad), how the hell can i present this to my professors without them saying I'm an idiot, have you ever heard of the second law of thermodynamics lol ?

Thanks again,
Tony

P.S. - i don't mean to hijack the thread with another circuit lol and i was also able to transmit energy wirelessly using to identical coils with that same basic circuit

[ashtweth]

Thanks Doc and Ren have added that info in the SEC course for when ready.
BTW this would be interesting to run...Bet the SEC 18 can do it lower then 30W

LED Tube Light, T8 / G13 Bi-Pin, 4-ft (1200mm) Replaces T8-32W Fluorescent Tube - LEDtronics

[DrStiffler]

@Dr.Stiffler

First off, I need to thank you Dr. Stiffler for what you are doing for this community of energy experimenters. I can't even tell you how much i appreciated your videos on youtube and thread on this forum. It has truly been a godsend for my research. Thank you so much

Anyway, I ordered one of your new SEC 18 circuits which arrived on Saturday, since then i have devoting all my spare time to learning exactly how it work and it's interesting effects (which i believe i mostly understand now ). I wanted to take it a step further so i designed this circuit today in my dorm room lol:



Using a pc based function generator and oscilloscope i found the self resonate frequency of the l3 coil (it was around 5.2 Khz for that set up). Once it was tuned i could easily achieve oscillations with 100v peak to peak waveform. To my amazement the voltage drop across the resistor was 0, indicating no current... Which means, besides the cost of the function generator's oscillating circuitry, there was no power being consumed? Is this a good example of my LEDS using Coherent energy picked up for the resonate L3 coil?

Also, I really want to research this at my university (I'm an EE undergrad), how the hell can i present this to my professors without them saying I'm an idiot, have you ever heard of the second law of thermodynamics lol ?

Thanks again,
Tony

P.S. - i don't mean to hijack the thread with another circuit lol and i was also able to transmit energy wirelessly using to identical coils with that same basic circuit

@Tonysam1

Using a pc based function generator and oscilloscope i found the self resonate frequency of the l3 coil (it was around 5.2 Khz for that set up).

I'm sure your Prof's would love this next statement to. There are three Resonances, (1) LC Resonance, (2) SRF - Self Resonant Frequency, (3) Spatial Resonance.

I think everyone understands #1 and #2 is pretty clear except that it is not always accurate as to make the measurement you would load the output of the coil (terminate). Manufactured coils that spec SRF will vary greatly and that is due to the method of measurement (test jig mostly). But in SRF the coil is not open ended. For #3, Spatial Resonance is taken with an open ended coil (I have an article on Scribd on this) and it also will vary and the coil will display (two) resonant peaks, one greater than the other and each when driven at the specific frequency will produce different artifacts.

Before you would attempt to present SEC to a Prof, try the three resonate freq topic, this will tell you if you could even mention SEC, like maybe the topic would get you drummed out of EE

Wait till you finish school then if you have not been brain washed, follow the trail on your own as you will have the building blocks to separate true anomalous results.

[DrStiffler]

Ren - I am impressed by your craftsmanship and video. Both are excellent. Thank you for sharing.

Have you done any energy balance measurements using the caps yet? The time it takes to discharge the cap when it runs the sec and the amount of time it take to charge the cap? I would be curious to see the time difference.

Thanks again.
Steve

@mudwump

Will respond to you PM soon, first break I have had in days. A personal problem has taken me 24/7, outcome still unclear and may be weeks before I get back to work.

Anyway I got the PM and will respond.

This cap thing drive me crazy. Folks who has told you this is so damn simple and a quality indicator.

Here is the best example. Charge a cap knowing Joules moved. Now with a load dump the cap and measure Joules moved. Now what you get back is not what you put in, period. Let the cap sit and then repeat for another surge of Joules (much small). Let it sit, dump again, guess what a trickle more. You ESR as the bare minimum and then you have dielectric storage and migration time. So really, what is the true plan that will give such a test a SQUARE shake?

[DrStiffler]

SEC 18, 10 and 18a and 18e boards

Please rely on PM direct to me of the Scientific mail for discussion and questions. I really don't want to have it done here as it would appear as a promotion or attempt at it.

If someone wants to start their own thread and that be the subject, that could work, but I don't think anything for sale should be here.

Thanks for understanding...

[Inquorate]

Ambient power module

This may be of interest to some as an RF power pick-up system;

Joe Tate: Ambient Power Module

Love and light

[theremart]

Hi guys / gals / other creatures

I just got my two boards SEC-18, and hope to get time to start playing with them. I have a 3.5 Farad cap that is just begging to get charged so I look forward to giving that a go.

I guess the next thing I need is led's. where is everyone gettting there's for this test?

Cheers

[Inquorate]

superbright LED's

Do a search for superbright LED china ebay, seems to be the cheapest place. Otherwise you can pay $5 each from local sources

[CosmicFarmer]

@Inquorate

Yes that was my first "free energy" circuit I tried to make, and I made 2 versions. One with proper sized caps and one with what I had lying around... both worked fine. I thought it was more of a capacitive bridge rectifier but the document calls it a voltage doubler. Yep it works. It works even with just a ground rod and no antenna. I was able to light 1 led up after 5 seconds of charging to 1/2 brightness, or if I left it on it was really dim, but it pulsed in its intensity. It was not DC... I tried to put it through a 2n2222 maybe I could chop up the voltage to a inductor but no dice - not enough for the transistor.

[DrStiffler]

I just got my two boards SEC-18, and hope to get time to start playing with them. I have a 3.5 Farad cap that is just begging to get charged so I look forward to giving that a go.

I guess the next thing I need is led's. where is everyone gettting there's for this test?

Cheers

@theremart

If you are going to try direct charge from an AV Plug to a cap like this, you will fail. The impedance differences will not allow it with any efficiency. This was covered a page or two back. Without some type of auto tuning on the Exciter it just does not fly.

Now if you are going to use an ESEC design, might I suggest you build it from scratch and not modify the 18-1 board. When you mod the board as needed for the ESEC you no longer have the 18-1 until you would repair it to normal.

Just trying to save you some time and frustration, but of course that is learning and may be a good experience to try the AV Plug.

[DrStiffler]

@Inquorate

Yes that was my first "free energy" circuit I tried to make, and I made 2 versions. One with proper sized caps and one with what I had lying around... both worked fine. I thought it was more of a capacitive bridge rectifier but the document calls it a voltage doubler. Yep it works. It works even with just a ground rod and no antenna. I was able to light 1 led up after 5 seconds of charging to 1/2 brightness, or if I left it on it was really dim, but it pulsed in its intensity. It was not DC... I tried to put it through a 2n2222 maybe I could chop up the voltage to a inductor but no dice - not enough for the transistor.

@CosmicFarmer & All

I posted this I think already, but rather than find it, here it is again. Worked some time with this years ago and determined that it is picking up random AC (environmental) which is everywhere..

Anyway it worked well, although no gain to it.

[DrStiffler]

Things Looking Up

Sorry for not being around much as a very close friend suffered a stroke and I have been involved in the care which is 24/7. I'm wasted, but did get sleep last night and got away to make a few posts here. I'm told another week or two until the critical part is past(?). I will try as often as possible to look in.

Please keep at it and I hope to provide some (worth while, usable) information very soon, (week maybe).

[theremart]

Wow...

@theremart

If you are going to try direct charge from an AV Plug to a cap like this, you will fail. The impedance differences will not allow it with any efficiency. This was covered a page or two back. Without some type of auto tuning on the Exciter it just does not fly.

Now if you are going to use an ESEC design, might I suggest you build it from scratch and not modify the 18-1 board. When you mod the board as needed for the ESEC you no longer have the 18-1 until you would repair it to normal.

Just trying to save you some time and frustration, but of course that is learning and may be a good experience to try the AV Plug.

It is wonderful to have you on this message board!!! you don't want to know how much magic smoke I have let out of the box trying to build Bedini circuits

I want basically what Lid motor has on his setup, and I thought I would get up to speed quicker if I had one of your boards that work to play with.

I will do my homework and read up on this board before I hook anything up.

Cheers!