High Voltage from Thin Air?

[Inquorate]

Lucite

Thanks!

Where can I get the 12.5mm Lucite rods?

I have both 20 gauge and 23 gauge magnet wire, will this work or does this require the 24 guage?

Thanks again...

I used wooden rods. Can't help re gauge, everything here is mm; about 36 turns of .4 mm wire on 12.5mm diameter rod is 10uh

Pronine Electronics Design - Single-Layer Air Coil Calculator

[baroutologos]

I watched several very interesting videos in utube from Dr stiffler and Lidmotor mainly regarding SEC wireless power transfer.

My simple question is: When using the simple receiving coil (with the leds on) / transmiting coil setup we have a certain primary power input. ok. What about putting another receiving tower on proximity? Primary's (radiating SEC) power input increases proportionally or receiving tower output is lowered (share the emmiting energy)?

Baroutologos

[Tonysam1]

I watched several very interesting videos in utube from Dr stiffler and Lidmotor mainly regarding SEC wireless power transfer.

My simple question is: When using the simple receiving coil (with the leds on) / transmiting coil setup we have a certain primary power input. ok. What about putting another receiving tower on proximity? Primary's (radiating SEC) power input increases proportionally or receiving tower output is lowered (share the emmiting energy)?

Baroutologos

hey Baroutologos,

Glad your catching up on those videos. The simple answer to your question is another tower and/or coil with similar resonate frequency as the transmission tower will also be excited into spacial resonance along with the original receiver tower. So, in my experience at least, it does not cost the SEC another mW of power to power a second, third, etc. tower. It seems to also depend on how much you are exciting the lattice around the transmission tower.

In Dr. Stiffler's self runner video:

YouTube - Exercise in how an SR operates

he states near 5:10 that "you can throw another exciter in and your home free."

I believe that validates my experiments and statement, and also is what is so incredibly special about spacial resonance

Tony

[Inquorate]

Chaos, anyone

Short video (not mine) showing the order underlying chaos in an oscillator

YouTube - the vilnius chaotic oscillator in action

the Dr will know why I posted it here. Simple explanation; best way to get ''broad spectrum RF''

love and light

[baroutologos]

hello again

today i tried to quick assemble, a SEC exciter as per pdf specs depicted here Wireless or One-Wire Energy Transmission Construction Guide.

I have some problems locating exact parts so "creative replication" was enabled.
My circuit alterations:

* L3 & L4 11mm pvc tubes used instead of lucite 12.5 mm ones. Winding was altered respectively. 1st tap at 40 turns. total 155 turns.
* plain PVC electric tape used instead of aluminium one to connect the two stainless steel caps together.
* end wires were attached via bolts n' nuts to toploads.
* instead of L2 bobin i used single layer 11mm pvc tube at approx. 50 turns (9uH)

........
What i could not do.

I could not operate the towers normaly. I notice that operation begun when i touched the topload of emmiter tower. So in order to make it work i put on it a heavy stailess steel kitchen colander. (and not mylself)

Wireless communication of the towers is an impossibility for me (for now) No matter voltage stimulation (12 or 24), ground usage (at both towers) or finetuning (of trimmers caps) i could not light the LEDs wirelessly. (only via the single wire wire connection)

.......
Concluding i had some fun with it and saw myself the much discussed single wire electricity transfer and utilization via an Avramenco Plug.

Concluding i am about to remake the sec as close as possibler per specs this time. Could you please provide me some troubleshooting advice on the probmlems aforementioned?


Baroutologos

[ashtweth]

Hi baroutologos just a hunch here, but i think that big steel tower may be too capacitive? so you need ether a bigger inductor or why not try the same top hat as the other smaller one?

Ash

[Inquorate]

Mass, aka parasitic capacitance

And add mass (thick metal sheet) under the sec 15-3 component board.

Another one's got the bug

[Loki67671]

I just got my SEC 18-1's and had to fire one up......

It didn't take much to get it running and just a very slight tweak of the tuning capacitor and BLINDED BY THE LIGHT!

I'm going to try for the self runner............

And THEN get number 3 in there......................

In the picture showing the meters 7.2mv is being measured across a 0.2 ohm current sensing resistor in the negative rail of the PS. (7.2E-3 / 0.2) = 0.036 amps. 36 mils at 17.99 volts is 648 mw input power.

So we just set the reciever tower on the table and it sat there for awhile then it fired up too.............. I had to shut it down because I HAVE TO GET SOME SLEEP TONIGHT!

More to follow,
Jim

[baroutologos]

Perhaps i will remake a basic 15-3 SEC and experiment a little.

@Ash
You are absolutely right. It needs top capacitance for it to start working. But i make it more or less per specs (minor deviations) so why is that? Obviously i make something wrong there.

@Loki

Very cool SEC. Can you please point me out in a harry why you use in array inductors and caps parallel to them in your receiving SEC?
Is it wired connected?

I remember a video o Borderland science (Dollard, Lindemman and another guy) i have seen, that they too were experimenting with this particular array powered by a signal generator.

...
By the way, adjusting the capacitance on my SEC is quite LOL. Even the mere approach of me to the device affect it considerably. I found that a common ground (grounding the common wire) alleviates some of the problem.


Baroutologos

[samedsoft]

Dear All,

I need to find out schematic of SEC 18-1 to compare with SEC 15??

I need full schematic with components details.

Please help me up guys.

Also I would like to share my coil calculation excel sheet file.
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Please enter values to the left side with turquoise color cells. And try to measure real coil with your LC meter, looking forward for corrections and comments.

Love, brothership and light

[Inquorate]

Publicly released 18 series info

Dear All,

I need to find out schematic of SEC 18-1 to compare with SEC 15??

I need full schematic with components details.

Please help me up guys.

Also I would like to share my coil calculation excel sheet file.
RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting

Please enter values to the left side with turquoise color cells. And try to measure real coil with your LC meter, looking forward for corrections and comments.

Love, brothership and light

This is all I know about

Early 18x Documentation Release

[DrStiffler]

Dear All,

I need to find out schematic of SEC 18-1 to compare with SEC 15??

I need full schematic with components details.

Please help me up guys.

Also I would like to share my coil calculation excel sheet file.
RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting

Please enter values to the left side with turquoise color cells. And try to measure real coil with your LC meter, looking forward for corrections and comments.

Love, brothership and light

@All

The documentation on Scribd is public, yet all current documentation for 18's is restricted to 18 owners and (c) 2009. Distribution to any third party is prohibited and I will enforce those rights.

Jim found they had screwed with this docum link on my site, but its back for owners, this is Rel. 1.4.

[Loki67671]

Perhaps i will remake a basic 15-3 SEC and experiment a little.

@Ash
You are absolutely right. It needs top capacitance for it to start working. But i make it more or less per specs (minor deviations) so why is that? Obviously i make something wrong there.

@Loki

Very cool SEC. Can you please point me out in a harry why you use in array inductors and caps parallel to them in your receiving SEC?
Is it wired connected?

I remember a video o Borderland science (Dollard, Lindemman and another guy) i have seen, that they too were experimenting with this particular array powered by a signal generator.

...
By the way, adjusting the capacitance on my SEC is quite LOL. Even the mere approach of me to the device affect it considerably. I found that a common ground (grounding the common wire) alleviates some of the problem.


Baroutologos

@Baroutologos
Please download Dr. Stiffler's paper SEC Exciter Measurement Methods from the SCRIBD website. You will find some VERY good information in that paper AS WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHERS. Please download them and read them. The boards you see in these photographs that are inductor and capacitor arrays are filters for taking measurements. What you see here is just something I did while showing another researcher the SEC. He was fiddling with the tuning and we just set the receiver in there. It is not connected to anything at all. The bottom of the tower coil is floating and the ladder filters: 1 is connected across a 1 ohm resistor and the other isn't connected at all but I use it for measuring voltages. Getting this to light up wasn't even intended. I was not measuring anything here except power input to make sure something wasn't wrong. It was the very first time I had powered my new SEC18-1's

Get Dr. Stiffler's PAPERS.......LOOK AT THE FREQUENCIES he talks about. Read......read........read. Nothing can or will be in a HURRY if you are going to try and understand what is happening here. Watch the videos he posts and keep working with it.



Jim

[Shamus]

Just another quick data point here with the SEC 18-1. I put a 5A analog meter on the input of my 18V power source (2 9V cells connected in series) and it indicated that it was drawing ~420mA. According to this, earlier measurements were off by an order of magnitude! So it's back to the drawing board as far as current measurements go.

/me goes back to read Dr. Stiffler's measurement document again.

[EgmQC]

Just another quick data point here with the SEC 18-1. I put a 5A analog meter on the input of my 18V power source (2 9V cells connected in series) and it indicated that it was drawing ~420mA. According to this, earlier measurements were off by an order of magnitude! So it's back to the drawing board as far as current measurements go.

/me goes back to read Dr. Stiffler's measurement document again.

Change your transistor , it fried for sure.

Best Regards,
EgmQC