High Voltage from Thin Air?

[DrStiffler]

Car lighting is a great idea; I'm thinking more along the lines of house lighting. If that can be accomplished, that would be a *major* win. Still waiting on my superbrites, though.

You know, when you think about it, most of the electronics we use run on around 12V or so; only a few things actually use 110V grid power, like HVAC and incandescent/flourescent lighting. It would seem there are lots of applications for Dr. Stiffler's technology literally sitting around us...

@Shamus

The home lighting route is the way to go, yet let me tell you of some of the roadblocks I have run into and maybe you will know or figure a way around to make the approach practical.

I have the capability - that should be no secret. Now about a year ago I was prepared to convert the lighting in my home to my technology and was going to use solar as a backup (supplemental charge) system. What first because obvious was that a retrofit required a new set of wiring that currently does not have a standard set of codes available. Now this would not only have dropped the value of the residence for resale (if not stopping such sale), but would have voided any insurance. Insurers will drop you or any claim like a hot potato for any non-certified or recognized technology.

Okay I said, lets make the backup plug into the main and just use the main and skip the solar, hell for a few years would be way ahead in the game due to the higher efficiency. Here again the ugly, the device has not been UL et.al., approved and certified. (Oh yes believe it or not that includes environmental and DHS of all people, not to mention the FCC). Okay I said its just for me get lost. Well so goes the insurance again. If you have a claim, be sure they do not know about the technology.

The Energy COPS! You know about them right? If not just drop your utility consumption 50% for a few months and they will be happy to introduce themselves to you.

What I settled on was a 'Little Beam' approach. Compact self contained lighting units for everything but ceiling lights. The structure allows for the interchange of batteries every few weeks without problem. The battery charging is via grid UL approved chargers and this has reduced my payback by about 28%, but no new technology hooked to the grid here. BUT! low and behold, no insurance. They would not cover a claim even remotely related to the devices.

This is food for the pursuit.....

[Lidmotor]

LED Light -to- Solar cell feedback loop

@All
I tried shining the light from the NILS onto a solar cell phone charger and the charge indicator light turned from red (indicating discharge) to green (indicating charging). I don't believe that it is a 100% efficiency situation but it was very encouraging. I am 100% convinced though, that Doc's new NILS system can run on photovoltaic cells and indirect sun light energy alone. Someone who is very familiar with new photovoltaic technology would have to figure out the panel size needed. If the panel was on the wall of your house that got good light from the sun, then at night the NILS would give back the light.

Here is the video of the magic show last night:

YouTube - LED Light - to - Photo cell feedback on NILS

Lidmotor

[CosmicFarmer]

This is why I almost think the 3rd world has almost in one way have it better then 'devoloped countrys' because you can go around with suppressed technology and no one will bother you for that. You still might get bothered, but not because your device is blasphemous.

Thats why I think it would be a good idea to load up on SEC's and LED's and take a trip to africa and light up some mud huts. you know! If I was some rich dude that could afford the plane ride and a nice tent I might do it.. Or if someone was making an expedition I wouldn't mind hauling boxes or something. But honestly those people (3rd world non mainsline connected) would go absolutely nuts when they saw how much light these things produce.

No one would have pacemakers to fry.
No one would have wireless apps that would be interrupted
No one would even notice any sound or "RF" coming from it...
No gas to burn and inhale
that might bear to be repeated again (Hut lung syndrome)
no terrain destroying 3phase wires to your hut
Available where hydro, solar and wind is not

Where in a city...

Pacemakers in public places, everyone is "Full Bars" at all times,unauth. emissions detectors and energy cops, stout belief systems that are hard to break... etc.

Actually I took this circuit to a friends house and tried to freak out his radios (which don't have antennas) and the radios could not pick up the SEC on a few frequencies or channels we tried! I had to touch L3 to the nub of antenna to get the radio to mis-behave. My radio has an antenna and wall plug so it mis-behaves about 5 feet away. I was not listening to the direct noise OF the SEC because I could not find it. It really matters about excited mass. a radio without an antenna might be shielded from these emissions!

You could describe this circuit to someone and they would not believe you, or think something else was happening, but if you just show them, then its a little different. Plus Africans or Aborigines or even poor white folk in a trailer park don't know any about electronics so if it lasts for weeks instead of days it would amaze em anyway. What I'm trying to figure out now is an easy way of explaining this to someone. Of course they are going to ask "How does it work?" and they want a 5 second long answer that makes sense. Maybe 10 seconds but any longer and they glaze over.

Free energy's gotta be free. Might have to give alot away. Make and Give.

[DrStiffler]

This is why I almost think the 3rd world has almost in one way have it better then 'devoloped countrys' because you can go around with suppressed technology and no one will bother you for that. You still might get bothered, but not because your device is blasphemous.

Thats why I think it would be a good idea to load up on SEC's and LED's and take a trip to africa and light up some mud huts. you know! If I was some rich dude that could afford the plane ride and a nice tent I might do it.. Or if someone was making an expedition I wouldn't mind hauling boxes or something. But honestly those people (3rd world non mainsline connected) would go absolutely nuts when they saw how much light these things produce.

No one would have pacemakers to fry.
No one would have wireless apps that would be interrupted
No one would even notice any sound or "RF" coming from it...
No gas to burn and inhale
that might bear to be repeated again (Hut lung syndrome)
no terrain destroying 3phase wires to your hut
Available where hydro, solar and wind is not

Where in a city...

Pacemakers in public places, everyone is "Full Bars" at all times,unauth. emissions detectors and energy cops, stout belief systems that are hard to break... etc.

Actually I took this circuit to a friends house and tried to freak out his radios (which don't have antennas) and the radios could not pick up the SEC on a few frequencies or channels we tried! I had to touch L3 to the nub of antenna to get the radio to mis-behave. My radio has an antenna and wall plug so it mis-behaves about 5 feet away. I was not listening to the direct noise OF the SEC because I could not find it. It really matters about excited mass. a radio without an antenna might be shielded from these emissions!

You could describe this circuit to someone and they would not believe you, or think something else was happening, but if you just show them, then its a little different. Plus Africans or Aborigines or even poor white folk in a trailer park don't know any about electronics so if it lasts for weeks instead of days it would amaze em anyway. What I'm trying to figure out now is an easy way of explaining this to someone. Of course they are going to ask "How does it work?" and they want a 5 second long answer that makes sense. Maybe 10 seconds but any longer and they glaze over.

Free energy's gotta be free. Might have to give alot away. Make and Give.

@CosmicFarmer

About the only thing you said here that I really do not agree with or understand and you yourself stated that that is why you are not doing it.

Free energy's gotta be free. Might have to give alot away. Make and Give.

I have no idea about other countries, but the US is completely stupid as far as our government goes. Spend, give away every dollar they can squeeze from the working and rich class. What they never understand but it is hitting them in the face at this time, is when people don't work of just give up from what's the sense, tax revenue goes away and they need other countries to chip in and carry on there giveaways.

Now what my point is; If I Gave as you describe, I would become one of those in need. How would I ever continue research or even my life if I gave all my works away? Bad enough just giving the info away, no payback here. I am retired, no millionaire, very few scientists are. So your Ideal may make people warm and fuzzy, but it ain't reality.

Like I stated back about 6-8 posts, who buys and distributes and redistributes this type of technology??? I real do feel in my heart its a ploy by groups to obtain money and they shell out a very small amount to allow photo ops to keep their image and fund raising. Okay I'm a sour old man, but I have kicked the dirt for many years now.

[DrStiffler]

@All
I tried shining the light from the NILS onto a solar cell phone charger and the charge indicator light turned from red (indicating discharge) to green (indicating charging). I don't believe that it is a 100% efficiency situation but it was very encouraging. I am 100% convinced though, that Doc's new NILS system can run on photovoltaic cells and indirect sun light energy alone. Someone who is very familiar with new photovoltaic technology would have to figure out the panel size needed. If the panel was on the wall of your house that got good light from the sun, then at night the NILS would give back the light.

Here is the video of the magic show last night:

YouTube - LED Light - to - Photo cell feedback on NILS

Lidmotor

@Lidmotor

What you are about to receive in feedback is 'How do you know the field from the Exciter is not changing the LED and nothing real is happening?'

This of course is a valid question and here is how I shut them up once. You have to use care so you do not damage your cell, but you put a Faraday Cage around the cell. I used copper screen you can get at a craft store and wrapped my cell and soldered a ground to it. Now yes the screen has gaps, but only mm waves will get through. Also the ground wire can not be small gauge or very long.

I do not think you need to go to this effort, but something you should be aware of when they start bringing this up. I had to laugh because back in late 2007 or early 2008 I got all this flak on the first exciters. "Put it in a Faraday and it will not work" Well I did and then there was a battle because the troops could not agree on if the cage was to be grounded or floating. Next, like with Schrodinger's Cat how do you know for sure its alive or not till you open the box. I cut a small flap for viewing the LED's. FOUL.. RF is getting in that tiny hole and driving the Exciter.

You have a can of worms here, so watch your back.

[DrStiffler]

A Challenge

@All

If you have an 18-1 you could get an 18-1e free if you did a test to back me up on the 'Little Beam'. Look at the paper and the video and build the demo circuit that I call 'Little Beams' Father.

Used the same circuit, battery and layout. Battery must be fresh (new) and charged to >=6.3. Use as stated a 6V 4.5Ahr lead acid (actually a gel cell) as stated in the document and video.

Set it aside taking reading off the battery at least every 8 hours, 10 if you are a long sleeper. Now during the coming five days keep reporting here what's
going on and how its going. After 5 days of 24/7, you will win a free 18-1e and I will pay the shipping.

Any takers?

[Shamus]

I'm in. I assume you got your 6V cell from Tractor Supply Co.?

Also: Do I need to make an L3 exactly like yours? Or can I use my tower L3?

[DrStiffler]

I'm in. I assume you got your 6V cell from Tractor Supply Co.?

Also: Do I need to make an L3 exactly like yours? Or can I use my tower L3?

The battery can come from Academy at $8.95 or UB (Universal Battery at $5.25 but shipping is added in). But 99 out of 100 are the same so long as it spec at 6V 4.5Ahr.

No the tower is not a replication, the length of the tower coil is physically longer even if the inductance was exact to the L3's I supply. I am looking for of course a replication. The L3's are wound on 1/2" NSF (CPVC 4120 Cold Water Pipe) and is in Houston at least carried by Home Depot but not Lowes.

You can wind one by drilling a start hole and end hole 1 7/16 from start. Use #24 enamel covered copper.

Please look at the video and document to try to make a twin as close as possible. If you do not now decline, you are the MAN!

[CosmicFarmer]

When I find a 6volt battery, I will attempt! May I improvise with some AA's? If I may not then I am delayed.

About earlier...
Of course I fully expect you to offer your services for a price, a humble 25 plus S/H is small to expect for such a jewel. No I wasn't referring to you giving out physical things, as you give out your time to actually listen to me ramble.... :-) and time is money yadda yadda. I belive your in your place doing your thing, tao te ching style. I'm talking about the others, who are absolutely asleep in their thought, who need to learn from you, and when they see this demonstrated properly I bet big fat $$$ will show up in their eyes... but no I / we cant sell this, we can only give it away! that's what I was meaning. I almost was talking to myself.

Naturally If it was me I would charge quadruple, knowing what it can do, however it has such small parts content, but the board layout itself is a component. So I think offering it for 25 is your act of giving.

Why am I still talking? Sorry! I'll shut up until I have done or learned something. This place is fun.

Actually.. hahah... could you offer some plastic forms to hold the SEC on your website? I would buy a couple! Right now I got cutting boards and plywood! :-)

[DrStiffler]

Wow thats a fast reply.

Of course I fully expect you to offer your services for a price, a humble 25 plus S/H is small to expect for such a jewel. No I wasn't referring to you giving out physical things, as you give out your time to actually listen to me ramble.... :-) and time is money yadda yadda. I belive your in your place doing your thing, tao te ching style. I'm talking about the others, who are absolutely asleep in their thought, who need to learn from you, and when they see this demonstrated properly I bet big fat $$$ will show up in their eyes... but no I / we cant sell this, we can only give it away! that's what I was meaning. I almost was talking to myself.

Naturally If it was me I would charge quadruple, knowing what it can do, however it has such small parts content, but the board layout itself is a component. So I think offering it for 25 is your act of giving.

Why am I still talking? Sorry! I'll shut up until I have done or learned something. This place is fun.

@CosmicFarmer

I have openly stated I do not make a dime from this. The boards unless purchased in 500-1k lots cost ~$5, throw in $3.92 for parts and $10 to have them hand soldered and you do the math. Yes I am giving them away, I hope all understand that. Now if someone does the math and says "Dude, you are making a tish over $2, think again. They must be packages, packing costs money, taken to the post office by a human that does not work for free, factor in the gas and auto wear and tear and Holy S___, am I really loosing money????

Yes, indeed my giving is going as far as I think I need to go.

[DrStiffler]

Only Santa Knows!

Is this real?

YouTube - Early Xmas Shopping

[plengo]

Is this real?

YouTube - Early Xmas Shopping

noooooo, is that car really running wirelessly???? That's AWSOME!

Fausto.

[Shamus]

OK, I was able to secure everything except the superbrites (still waiting on Hong Kong to ship them). In the meantime, I was able to find some 7,000 mcd white LEDs locally, forward current is 25mA, voltage is 3.3-3.6V max. Is that a dealbreaker? If so, I'll have to wait on the superbrites to get here.

[ren]

HA. Gold Dr Stiffler. I laughed my ass off when I saw that. Instant 5 star


Love the NIL too, so neatly packaged. Well done sir.

[theremart]

Wow.

@theremart


'Well all things are possible but many are impractical'

Maybe I could save you some time and money, just in case you pursue or explore father the above direction.

Forget the glow lights. They are not all that expensive and work very well with growth of vegetation and that is ( UV LEDS's). I have used UV LEDS for two years now and they have greatly improved and come down in cost. BE VERY CAREFUL AND ALWAYS USE EYE AND SKIN PROTECTION AROUND THEM.

I have applied UV's in the lab in my work with bacteria and also very extensively in electrolysis. In fact I made some custom Ident light for a few people. They will run very similar to the White LED's most are using with the Exciters.

I would engineer the light system around supplemented battery power with solar backup and charging. Such a system could be easily made 90% and better with care in design and construction (like tracking collectors). Even with the low efficiency of the panels and the problems with the batteries, the Exciters would make up for.

Please take this farther, you have some very good ideas, please apply them in more than just dreams.

As of now I have a 100W solar panel charging golf cart batteries. I am targeting slowly going off grid Slowly but surely I am moving closer to that goal.

I am very interested in UV since it is used in purifying blood, and water. I believe that UV generates ozone within the various things it targets thus kills a lot of the bacteria.

Thanks for your wisdom and encouragement