High Voltage from Thin Air?

[DrStiffler]

OK, I was able to secure everything except the superbrites (still waiting on Hong Kong to ship them). In the meantime, I was able to find some 7,000 mcd white LEDs locally, forward current is 25mA, voltage is 3.3-3.6V max. Is that a dealbreaker? If so, I'll have to wait on the superbrites to get here.

@Shamus

I can live with what you have. The break over or Vf is most important.

Great, I have a box ready..............

[DrStiffler]

noooooo, is that car really running wirelessly???? That's AWSOME!

Fausto.

@plengo

Hello old friend! Long time from the 666 days.

Well you know that Santa is always watching and depends on if you are naughty or nice. Have I lied yet?

[wpage]

Interesting but long

This thread on renewable energy is meandering around the point...

[DrStiffler]

This thread on renewable energy is meandering around the point...

@wpage

Hummmm.. Where and why are you commenting here? Are you a wood worm or have you little patients.

[Cloxxki]

Thanks, as I already wrote to you in PM.



Whether you are pulling my/our leg or not, it's great fun for sure. But, if you can do A, I fully hold you capable for doing B. Most scientists forget that, and get stuck in the theory, and fail to make things visible, useful.

I'd be interested to learn which fails first due to out-of-range: the SEC, or the radio controls. I still see the antenna in plce at least. I bet you're alrady thinking of ridding it. Energy and information over the same medium, of course.

Now, a golf cart, that's another level still! Once you get to charge that quicker than it can consume, you're ready for some gold cart racing! (which I'm sure, exists). Could the rulebook outlaw use of an SEC? Use a small battery on the cart, to save weight, and cost. Or leave them at the external solar panel.

[DrStiffler]

Thanks, as I already wrote to you in PM.



Whether you are pulling my/our leg or not, it's great fun for sure. But, if you can do A, I fully hold you capable for doing B. Most scientists forget that, and get stuck in the theory, and fail to make things visible, useful.

I'd be interested to learn which fails first due to out-of-range: the SEC, or the radio controls. I still see the antenna in plce at least. I bet you're alrady thinking of ridding it. Energy and information over the same medium, of course.

Now, a golf cart, that's another level still! Once you get to charge that quicker than it can consume, you're ready for some gold cart racing! (which I'm sure, exists). Could the rulebook outlaw use of an SEC? Use a small battery on the cart, to save weight, and cost. Or leave them at the external solar panel.

@Cloxxki

I'd be interested to learn which fails first due to out-of-range: the SEC, or the radio controls. I still see the antenna in plce at least. I bet you're alrady thinking of ridding it. Energy and information over the same medium, of course.

That should be easy. The car move in a straight line ~8'. The controller is 300mW @49MHz, of course the car would suffer a power loss before the control was lost, (Hypothetical guess on my part)

As to the rest (next paragraph), got me, I know not of what you are talking about.

[DrStiffler]

Thanks, as I already wrote to you in PM.



Whether you are pulling my/our leg or not, it's great fun for sure. But, if you can do A, I fully hold you capable for doing B. Most scientists forget that, and get stuck in the theory, and fail to make things visible, useful.

I'd be interested to learn which fails first due to out-of-range: the SEC, or the radio controls. I still see the antenna in plce at least. I bet you're alrady thinking of ridding it. Energy and information over the same medium, of course.

Now, a golf cart, that's another level still! Once you get to charge that quicker than it can consume, you're ready for some gold cart racing! (which I'm sure, exists). Could the rulebook outlaw use of an SEC? Use a small battery on the cart, to save weight, and cost. Or leave them at the external solar panel.

@Cloxxki
Sorry, I did not place you until I read the PM on YouTube and will give you a bit more infor on the subject we are talking about.

'Little Beast' in normal mode requires (6) AA's. It has added flashing White LED headlights and the flashing Red LED's on the front bumper. To bypass the normal supply and obtain <3m run will requires spatial charge time of ~20min. Hope that helps.

Sorry but I don't think NSA will allow me on the roof

[Tecstatic]

Even though my sec in the last video was grossly out of tune, and not as efficient as my mass repeater led board, did anyone notice that half of the energy recovered came from a mass repeater sphere?

Mass repeaters seem well worth extra study, as those that have shown them in their videos seem to have noticed.

YouTube - quick comparison; mass repeater v not

Love and light

I agree on the "mass repeaters" or the SECRPT are worth a study. In my last video the leftmost SECRPT wirelessly operated 2 CFLs, and later I got it up to 3 with a nice amount of light. The single powered SECTWR did not increase consumption by adding the SECRPT with CFLs.

I wonder if this is the secret in coming progress, as it may not be limited in voltage swing.

I also wonder if a set of repeaters with a certain shape and positioned in a certain relative pattern may bring more magic along with more electronics.


@Doc
Awesome and visionary video as always my friend, you a certainly a giving person, not only by "selling" your SEC exciters.

Dr.Lindemann says the slow way is the fast way. There may be more truth to that statement than we may wish, as understanding the fundamentals is not always that easy.

Personally I often feel I hit the wall, today was one of those, and the hours just vanish in thin air, an answer is followed by many questions and more experiments to do.

I wonder if you left the SGate trail because it was just a step on the road, or because of no dreamers, missing replication and too little experimenting work from the forum.

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Unfortunately my time is locked for some days to fix a major "challenge" with one of our cars. I have a sense my wife will appreciate this a lot

Eric

[Shamus]

Could this be just what the Doctor ordered?

@Doc: What do you think? If this isn't near enough, I can build up a platform and secure everything down. I did six LEDs per side because that's what you had in the video; I can take three out if that's not what you intend here.

One question on tuning this thing before I start the experiment in earnest: When I tuned it with the new L3 I used my 25 mixed LED board and I have a sneaking suspicion that this isn't correct. I started it and the battery was sitting at 6.36V; fifteen minutes later it had dropped to 6.28V. I want to ensure a successful replication here, so is there anything I should look at (aside from the obvious lowest current/highest brightness)?

(Side note: I would have to do a side-by-side comparison to be 100% sure, but it seemed to me that the brightness of the 25 LED board was noticeably higher with the new L3. Could this be the cause of the mixed reactions you've gotten to the 18?)

[Inquorate]

Remote control

I think the most important part of the rc car demo is the fact that the RF em waves could get through the bubble to direct the car.

I'm going out on a limb and thinking that a transmitting sec and tower were tuned to transmit to the car's tower.

Wonderfully effective ''blowing up hydrogen'' demonstration that the sec transmits power, and that it's not RF, and not inductive, and not capacitive, but mass/shape linked.

I love it!

and I'm hoping that a more complete demo is the actual xmas present??

Thankyou for making us dream big with our research into the sec Dr Stiffler.

[Loki67671]

As usual just awesome work Doc.
The car is really cool.
I could speculate on how you are doing it but obviously it will be speculation.......

But the spotlight is excellent applications work!

I had also considered insurance and resale value of a house. Certifications and testing for release into the market could prove to be quite the challenge. Regardless there are folks that are keeping the homestead not just making real-estate investments so permanent changes to the functional technology might not be that big of a deal for some. Might be a good idea to put down some requirements such as constraints to keep in mind while developing with the technology. Also Remember the fragility of the Grid too. Some might just find it NECESSARY to have a backup plan. We shall see.

I have an application in the works but I'm not ready to show anyone yet....... ................

Great job!

Jim

[DrStiffler]

@Doc: What do you think? If this isn't near enough, I can build up a platform and secure everything down. I did six LEDs per side because that's what you had in the video; I can take three out if that's not what you intend here.

One question on tuning this thing before I start the experiment in earnest: When I tuned it with the new L3 I used my 25 mixed LED board and I have a sneaking suspicion that this isn't correct. I started it and the battery was sitting at 6.36V; fifteen minutes later it had dropped to 6.28V. I want to ensure a successful replication here, so is there anything I should look at (aside from the obvious lowest current/highest brightness)?

(Side note: I would have to do a side-by-side comparison to be 100% sure, but it seemed to me that the brightness of the 25 LED board was noticeably higher with the new L3. Could this be the cause of the mixed reactions you've gotten to the 18?)

@Shamus

I did six LEDs per side because that's what you had in the video; I can take three out if that's not what you intend here.

I'm sad this morning for two reasons, so lets help one first.

This is wrong and my sadness comes that you must not have read the document or observed the video all that well. Only once in the could someone think all six LED's were lit and that was due to my lack of photograph skills. The paper addresses a simple formula that shows that the physical number of LED's is controlled by the supply voltage you intend to utilize. In this case the (6) in the positive leg and (3) in the negative leg. The reason for this is due to lack of equality in pulse levels (voltage) off L3.

With two many LED's in the negative string, this string would appear dimmer than the positive string and to the human eye the 25 LED board would always appear brighter unless you tried to compare with equal numbered vision field excluding the rest and in the same physical layout. The eye is a fun thing this way and the brain always gets in the way trying to help.

I have to leave this and will finish in a minute as I need to go back and see what I told you about L3, although the document I thought was right, now I'm told we have a post here where the wire size is wrong, back shortly, I have another couple points.

**Ok I'm back. I did give you the right dimensions for L3 assuming that is #24 and from start hole to end hole we have 1 7/16. The only comment on the coil that remains is the closeness of the turns. You could maybe be short 10 -15 turns (makes a whopper of a difference) and you can tell by trying to push the turns together and see what it reduces the length to. Even with a winder this is hard and I apply a water soluble finish to hold them together (not you need not do this). Just insure that there is indeed enough wire on the thing.

Now the whole this does need to be held in a constant location (individual parts). You tune and move L3 a bit and it all changes. You don't have to go to a ton of work, maybe some masking tape just to stabilize.

Tuning, a bit different. Be sure all the LED's are the same in both legs, I think you said you were using 7k mcd's. Now for tune, you tune so that both the 6 and 3 LED strings look (to the eye) to be of equal brightness. This will get you close to balance. Do not adjust the tuning after once set.

So simple yet very complicated I agree, yet you are about ready. Please before starting insure the battery is charged, that rate of drop says it may not have of just the configuration was drawing 50+mA.

Good luck, I'll look back in later in case of any additional questions.

[DrStiffler]

I think the most important part of the rc car demo is the fact that the RF em waves could get through the bubble to direct the car.

I'm going out on a limb and thinking that a transmitting sec and tower were tuned to transmit to the car's tower.

Wonderfully effective ''blowing up hydrogen'' demonstration that the sec transmits power, and that it's not RF, and not inductive, and not capacitive, but mass/shape linked.

I love it!

and I'm hoping that a more complete demo is the actual xmas present??

Thankyou for making us dream big with our research into the sec Dr Stiffler.

@Inquorate

Hummm.... maybe this is just me not understanding what you are saying. But I think you are wondering how the 49MHz can control the car when we have an excited field around it?

Well we don't. Look back a few posts I made. The car is charged via SEC field when sitting and not running. SEC field turned off and car is run. It at present takes about 100:1 (seconds) charge to run time.

As a side note: "that other thread". Interesting how I am considered a "Dictator" by uninformed babbling Tesla Groupies. Maybe if they stopped there vane ignorant lack of substance rambling on a go no
where set of dreams they could become enlightened.

At least they have given me one thing, that is the ability to see their lack of value to humanity.

[DrStiffler]

As usual just awesome work Doc.
The car is really cool.
I could speculate on how you are doing it but obviously it will be speculation.......

But the spotlight is excellent applications work!

I had also considered insurance and resale value of a house. Certifications and testing for release into the market could prove to be quite the challenge. Regardless there are folks that are keeping the homestead not just making real-estate investments so permanent changes to the functional technology might not be that big of a deal for some. Might be a good idea to put down some requirements such as constraints to keep in mind while developing with the technology. Also Remember the fragility of the Grid too. Some might just find it NECESSARY to have a backup plan. We shall see.

I have an application in the works but I'm not ready to show anyone yet....... ................

Great job!

Jim

@Loki67671

Well said, except in today's world having the value (even if small) in a home may be critical if one lost employment or other major event came along. I hear what you are saying and understand, but I wonder if you misunderstood me?

I was not shutting the door to using off the wall technologies to help out, I was saying you need to be fully informed so that the gain does not wash from the loss that one has not thought about. Just think of the excitement of buying a 60" HDTV, getting it home an realize that you are going to sit less than 8' from it because you never considered your room size.

Anyway rest assured I'm in my home (God willing) until I leave this retched place, yet I must look to the possibility I might destroy my wife's remaining years by technology that no one understands or really wants for whatever reason.

Case in point, a friend recently purchased $46k in solar. His error as he will see was in figuring the pay back wrong. First he figured payback over 20 years and the panels will be very lucky to provide much after 12-15 years. Next mistake was to figure payback on today's utility rates, did not include cost increase.

And what I consider a Monster of an Error that he still has not become enlightened on, In this part of Texas it is common for hail to range from pea size to soft ball size (this is no lie) and his panels have no warranty or information on their ability to survive such abuse.

Thanks for you comment, good to see both sides in this area as all must be concerned.

[Shamus]

@Doc: I did read the paper and watched the video carefully. I saw the formulas for calculating the number of LEDs on the positive and negative rails going back to the battery; I just wasn't sure how close of a replication to that video that you wanted here. Right, so I'll take those three off the (-) rail. Also I'll make sure that the parts are stable and don't move in relation to one another.

With respect to L3--when I wound it I kept the turns as tight together as possible without having them overlap; what you see in the photo is no doubt the wire relaxing a bit on the ends giving room for what looks like some extra turns but I can assure you, there is no way you could get another 10 to 15 turns on there without drilling a new hole on the end. I also double checked the length and it's 1 7/16" long. I could wrap those windings with some vinyl tape to make sure that they are absolutely stable.