High Voltage from Thin Air?

[Tecstatic]

Some off time viewing for ALL.

YouTube - Wireless driving 48 White LED's 2.5 feet away

Doc, super

And I remembered the old video:

Eric Dollard - Peter Lindemann - Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity.

Peter explains the setup of the wireless transmitter:

At 7:52 he says:

"Our secondary is made up of a termination. In this case is a neon bulb, which acts as a plasma, which in these low power systems works better than a large sphere."

Nice, more to try.

Actually this is quite smart to use the AV-plug to create the plasma in the neon, as a direct connection can not lit the neon bulb in our low power setup

Thanks goes to Peter as well.

Unfortunately I have to wait a day, until I have time to try it out.

Eric

[ABCStore]

Interestingly enough, sometimes my NIL replication goes into a very strange mode - drawing ~15mA off 12.5v battery (measured from negative of the battery to SEC "-") and variable capacitor has almost NO effect! Power draw fluctuate between 15 and 20 mA and LED's brightness go up and down a little.

ABC

[CosmicFarmer]

Finished reading spatial energy X and it answered alot of questions I asked :-P
RTFM, right? ;-)

one question I still have though, and I think it was covered about 15 pages ago but I cant seem to find it.

To charge a 12v battery do you take the output of L3 to the battery, with diodes? and is the number of diodes able to be worked out in the NILS formula, or is it a different number? Or would LEDs work best? So I guess what I am asking is for the charge circuit to add voltage to a battery for 12v. Should just be a string of diodes, right? but I think the battery goes in backwards...


I will tinker around but I am wondering if someone already blazed this trail best before. That is pretty much the last link that I need to fall into place to begin making an off the grid system that uses all natrual sources of input for power. Battery charger with solar and earth inputs! This circuit is an experimenters dream. Does everything you ask it for if you ask it right.

Capacitive... Manifestation.
Don't sound like lovecraft too much or someone might make this thing a pineal stimulator and then we really got trouble! Ha ha haha

I hope you feel better inq. ... Seems were all getting sick with something. I got that nastiness now... The clock is just that much more visible now... Gotta get movin' ...

[DrStiffler]

Finished reading spatial energy X and it answered alot of questions I asked :-P
RTFM, right? ;-)

one question I still have though, and I think it was covered about 15 pages ago but I cant seem to find it.

To charge a 12v battery do you take the output of L3 to the battery, with diodes? and is the number of diodes able to be worked out in the NILS formula, or is it a different number? Or would LEDs work best? So I guess what I am asking is for the charge circuit to add voltage to a battery for 12v. Should just be a string of diodes, right? but I think the battery goes in backwards...


I will tinker around but I am wondering if someone already blazed this trail best before. That is pretty much the last link that I need to fall into place to begin making an off the grid system that uses all natrual sources of input for power. Battery charger with solar and earth inputs! This circuit is an experimenters dream. Does everything you ask it for if you ask it right.

Capacitive... Manifestation.
Don't sound like lovecraft too much or someone might make this thing a pineal stimulator and then we really got trouble! Ha ha haha

I hope you feel better inq. ... Seems were all getting sick with something. I got that nastiness now... The clock is just that much more visible now... Gotta get movin' ...

@CosmicFarmer
@All

I did not realize what this "spatial energy X" thing was until today, I remember hearing or seeing it mentioned before, but it never came to the forefront.

Whoever 'Chicagochr' is, hope you have some money and live in the US. This is a direct violation of my copyrights, you had no permission to post my material. I would suggest you remove it at ONCE.

This ticks me off in a big way..............

[DrStiffler]

Doc, super

And I remembered the old video:

Eric Dollard - Peter Lindemann - Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity.

Peter explains the setup of the wireless transmitter:

At 7:52 he says:

"Our secondary is made up of a termination. In this case is a neon bulb, which acts as a plasma, which in these low power systems works better than a large sphere."

Nice, more to try.

Actually this is quite smart to use the AV-plug to create the plasma in the neon, as a direct connection can not lit the neon bulb in our low power setup

Thanks goes to Peter as well.

Unfortunately I have to wait a day, until I have time to try it out.

Eric

@Tecstatic

What tape is this you refer to? I though I saw the set that was out there and I did not see 'Peter Lindemann'? Could you point me to this?

Actually this is quite smart to use the AV-plug to create the plasma in the neon, as a direct connection can not lit the neon bulb in our low power setup

I have used the neon concept along with xenon for some years now and I presented information along with calorimeter testing to show the gasses produced more heat than the input. Most of this was done over at (UnderUnity or XU). Anyway all I received was flak and BS as no one had the ability to do a similar test, therefore as concerns the general public it was false and died on the vine. As a result it is no longer something I will present as I still feel no one is able to conduct calorimeter test to confirm.

So the last video has an input of 1.038W and generates burning heat in the neon and does the wireless of the 48 LED's. The transistor does not heat if you get the hint. Anyway it was a great display when you consider the earth ground plate below the battery is totally parasitic. The frequency if you are interested is approx 2.450E7 r/s.

[DrStiffler]

SOme Odd Food for Thought

YouTube - Wireless and some odd features of the Exciter and Receiver

[CosmicFarmer]

Oops! I had both your papers and chichagochr's papers bookmarked next to each other and I thought you were him! How else would he get your paper? Oh well, good info and history lesson. Good luck finding out who that guy is, he seems to have collected alot of your and other people's work. the paper explains nicely some of the basics of whats going on.

So anyway... I still would possibly kindly like to know these questions, if you so have the time to indulge me.

1. Why "amp draw" from clamp meter decreases when I touch after diode and increases if I touch before them (excited mass) ? I know clamp meter is not accurate but I was wondering why I can swing it from 0 amps to 55 amps just from where I touch.

2. how many diodes will it take to charge a 12v battery ?

Excellent circuit,
Good videos...
EDIT:
I think the excited plasma gas is getting in the way of your coherence beam, Dr Stiffler. I think thats whats making the LEDs go off - something like a SUN inbetween masses.
Thank you for your time.

[DrStiffler]

Oops! I had both your papers and chichagochr's papers bookmarked next to each other and I thought you were him! How else would he get your paper? Oh well, good info and history lesson. Good luck finding out who that guy is, he seems to have collected alot of your and other people's work. the paper explains nicely some of the basics of whats going on.

So anyway... I still would possibly kindly like to know these questions, if you so have the time to indulge me.

1. Why "amp draw" from clamp meter decreases when I touch after diode and increases if I touch before them (excited mass) ? I know clamp meter is not accurate but I was wondering why I can swing it from 0 amps to 55 amps just from where I touch.

2. how many diodes will it take to charge a 12v battery ?

Excellent circuit,
Good videos...
EDIT:
I think the excited plasma gas is getting in the way of your coherence beam, Dr Stiffler. I think thats whats making the LEDs go off - something like a SUN inbetween masses.
Thank you for your time.

@CosmicFarmer

chichagochr's

Don't care at this point, already filled removal papers with Scribd so they will take it if and notify him.

1. Why "amp draw" from clamp meter decreases

Well if it is as most today (digital) you are just changing the field and the meter is wrong in the first place and you either add to the field or decrease the field, all depends on where in the field you are and where the meter is. Nothing strange here.

2. how many diodes will it take to charge a 12v battery ?

Sorry, the battery charging is part of the Patent Applications.

I think the excited plasma gas is getting in the way of your coherence beam, Dr Stiffler. I think thats whats making the LEDs go off - something like a SUN inbetween masses.

No, wrong, try again.

[DrStiffler]

Just a little Fun Video

YouTube - Wireless Fun - Just for a fun look at the SEC Exciter

[Tecstatic]

@Tecstatic

What tape is this you refer to? I though I saw the set that was out there and I did not see 'Peter Lindemann'? Could you point me to this?



I have used the neon concept along with xenon for some years now and I presented information along with calorimeter testing to show the gasses produced more heat than the input. Most of this was done over at (UnderUnity or XU). Anyway all I received was flak and BS as no one had the ability to do a similar test, therefore as concerns the general public it was false and died on the vine. As a result it is no longer something I will present as I still feel no one is able to conduct calorimeter test to confirm.

So the last video has an input of 1.038W and generates burning heat in the neon and does the wireless of the 48 LED's. The transistor does not heat if you get the hint. Anyway it was a great display when you consider the earth ground plate below the battery is totally parasitic. The frequency if you are interested is approx 2.450E7 r/s.

I got my videos almost two years ago from the net, and have seen them several places since, so I don't have the original location.

But it is also on google video here:

Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves

It seems to be the video I have, the google video timing deviates slightly from the timing I gave, maybe up to 15 seconds judged from the preview pictures I checked against my video.

I have not tried to download the video as google does not like me, and I have to do all sorts of tricks to get a google video.

Talking weird stuff, yesterday these posts were on page 54, now it says page 53, and the posts has been renumbered to a lower number.

Have any of you also seen this, if so, is the server compromised ?

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Doc, thank you for the videos, they are certainly food for thought, and I feel stupid, as this is not easy to understand.

Maybe this is behind most of the explanations, but obvious it is not (at least not to me).

The L.M.D./T.E.M.Test

I have taken me a bit of time to try the neon, with my stuff I loose power, maybe that is only a question of time and tuning better.

However I have observed something strange:

I attached a piece of copper foil to the neon, twice the length of the glass and the width half the circumference.

To make sure the copper foil stays put on the neon I added a thin strip of copper foil all way around the neon. Thin so I can still watch the neon light.

When I set the neo SECTWR (neo instead of sphere) next to a (normal) SECRPT with 12 LEDs, the 12 LEDS are lit, but not as much as in my videos.

Then I took a 60mm sphere with a naked coil (SRPT), as has been seen on my video also, and connected the coil to the copper tape (just touched it).

I got approx. 7 LUX from the partly shielded neo without the STWR, but when I touched the copper tape with the outer part of the spiral coil I got approx. 50 LUX.

The LEDs intensity was raised approx. 90%, also measured with the LUX meter.

The SECTWR consumption was 1.5W without the STWR, and 1.5 or 1.6W with the STWR.

I checked with my scope, that the fundamental frequency stayed at 12MHz, but the waveform changed.

Doc, could you please try to ad some copper tape to your neo and connect the bottom wire of one of your towers to the copper foil (my neo is also perpendicular to coil axis like yours).

It would be nice to see if the increased excitation can be seen with your equipment.

The number info you gave is certainly interesting.

I would like to have your coils here to try it out myself, you could save me some time if you informed about the coils. They do not seem child's play to replicate from your videos by "measuring" size and number of windings and relate to a coil calculator as I have done. As the "coil" former is special and not so easy to do, trial and error will be time consuming and require at least 2 attempts, so please help.

Eric

[DrStiffler]

I got my videos almost two years ago from the net, and have seen them several places since, so I don't have the original location.

But it is also on google video here:

Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves

It seems to be the video I have, the google video timing deviates slightly from the timing I gave, maybe up to 15 seconds judged from the preview pictures I checked against my video.

I have not tried to download the video as google does not like me, and I have to do all sorts of tricks to get a google video.

Talking weird stuff, yesterday these posts were on page 54, now it says page 53, and the posts has been renumbered to a lower number.

Have any of you also seen this, if so, is the server compromised ?

----------

Doc, thank you for the videos, they are certainly food for thought, and I feel stupid, as this is not easy to understand.

Maybe this is behind most of the explanations, but obvious it is not (at least not to me).

The L.M.D./T.E.M.Test

I have taken me a bit of time to try the neon, with my stuff I loose power, maybe that is only a question of time and tuning better.

However I have observed something strange:

I attached a piece of copper foil to the neon, twice the length of the glass and the width half the circumference.

To make sure the copper foil stays put on the neon I added a thin strip of copper foil all way around the neon. Thin so I can still watch the neon light.

When I set the neo SECTWR (neo instead of sphere) next to a (normal) SECRPT with 12 LEDs, the 12 LEDS are lit, but not as much as in my videos.

Then I took a 60mm sphere with a naked coil (SRPT), as has been seen on my video also, and connected the coil to the copper tape (just touched it).

I got approx. 7 LUX from the partly shielded neo without the STWR, but when I touched the copper tape with the outer part of the spiral coil I got approx. 50 LUX.

The LEDs intensity was raised approx. 90%, also measured with the LUX meter.

The SECTWR consumption was 1.5W without the STWR, and 1.5 or 1.6W with the STWR.

I checked with my scope, that the fundamental frequency stayed at 12MHz, but the waveform changed.

Doc, could you please try to ad some copper tape to your neo and connect the bottom wire of one of your towers to the copper foil (my neo is also perpendicular to coil axis like yours).

It would be nice to see if the increased excitation can be seen with your equipment.

The number info you gave is certainly interesting.

I would like to have your coils here to try it out myself, you could save me some time if you informed about the coils. They do not seem child's play to replicate from your videos by "measuring" size and number of windings and relate to a coil calculator as I have done. As the "coil" former is special and not so easy to do, trial and error will be time consuming and require at least 2 attempts, so please help.

Eric

@Tecstatic

Well the coils were not made in house for sure. In my early days as a ham radio operator I had boxes of these coils, big and small and I kick myself every time I remember I gave them all away when I moved to Hawaii, so goes life.

Anyway they are no longer made (to the best of my knowledge) and are available from only one place and are very, very expensive. They come from the following supplier; Surplus Sales of Nebraska and are "B&W (Baker & Williamson) Miniductor #3060.

Okay I'll try the video and the trick you ask about and get back to you on the results.

[Lidmotor]

Lidmotor's --SEC Flicker Flame video

YouTube - Wireless Fun - Just for a fun look at the SEC Exciter

@Dr. Stiffler @ All
I am still working on the SEC project while I am doing other things. When I saw your last video I thought that I should add this link to the video of my "Flicker Flame" experiment done 6 months ago. It was done back when we were working with the S-Gate. It amazes me how much that I have learned from you in just 6 months time. It is not just what you have taught me but what you inspired me to seek out and learn about. Thanks.
Anyway----In this video you will notice the plasma going out the end of the tube and at one point I thought that maybe it was energy coming in not out. I still wonder about it.
YouTube - SEC--- FLICKER FLAME!!

I am trying to build one of those B&K coils based on the specs given at the web site. They cost $6 and I may break down and just buy one.

Cheers,

Lidmotor

[DrStiffler]

@Dr. Stiffler @ All
I am still working on the SEC project while I am doing other things. When I saw your last video I thought that I should add this link to the video of my "Flicker Flame" experiment done 6 months ago. It was done back when we were working with the S-Gate. It amazes me how much that I have learned from you in just 6 months time. It is not just what you have taught me but what you inspired me to seek out and learn about. Thanks.
Anyway----In this video you will notice the plasma going out the end of the tube and at one point I thought that maybe it was energy coming in not out. I still wonder about it.
YouTube - SEC--- FLICKER FLAME!!

I am trying to build one of those B&K coils based on the specs given at the web site. They cost $6 and I may break down and just buy one.

Cheers,

Lidmotor

@Lidmotor

Thanks for adding the link to your video. The coils are not bad if you order a few, but one or two and the shipping comes to more than the coils. I purchased a very large number from them and some really nice trappable coils where every other loop is indented so it is easy to adjust for just the correct L.

They also have some very nice air variable capacitors, and these do indeed get to a few bucks, but well work it as all will see as time goes on.

[Tecstatic]

Thank you Doc.

I tried to see what you used, so I "measured" from your video, and entered these numbers into the coil calculator.

D=45mm, actually 44,46 (1 3/4")
L=100 mm, actually 101,6 (4")
n=90, actually 96.
The gauge can also be estimated from length, number of windings and %air between the windings.

(IRF) BW-3060 1-3/4" x 4" (D x L ) 24 (windings/inch) 22 ga 150 µH

Not that bad (or unlucky) huh...

So two tries would not have been impossible. Unfortunately I think a special tool will be needed to reproduce exactly the coils.

I'm not the experienced radio amateur, how much is the exact same coil degraded, if on a coil former as we are used to ?

The initial coil cost (6$ apiece) will be largely increased by postage and import taxes and custom handling costs. I estimate the total cost for 3 coils would end up being more than 100$.

So I guess building is preferable to buying.

Eric

[DrStiffler]

Thank you Doc.

I tried to see what you used, so I "measured" from your video, and entered these numbers into the coil calculator.

D=45mm, actually 44,46 (1 3/4")
L=100 mm, actually 101,6 (4")
n=90, actually 96.
The gauge can also be estimated from length, number of windings and %air between the windings.

(IRF) BW-3060 1-3/4" x 4" (D x L ) 24 (windings/inch) 22 ga 150 µH

Not that bad (or unlucky) huh...

So two tries would not have been impossible. Unfortunately I think a special tool will be needed to reproduce exactly the coils.

I'm not the experienced radio amateur, how much is the exact same coil degraded, if on a coil former as we are used to ?

The initial coil cost (6$ apiece) will be largely increased by postage and import taxes and custom handling costs. I estimate the total cost for 3 coils would end up being more than 100$.

So I guess building is preferable to buying.

Eric

@Tecstatic

I'm not the experienced radio amateur, how much is the exact same coil degraded, if on a coil former as we are used to ?

I don't know, won't unless I had tried it and I have not. These coils were purchased for the project. I have all the math on the setup, but that would not answer your question unless you did the computations for what you purpose and compare the outcome.

You may want to hold off until the car travels down the road a bit farther. You do understand that the 'Spatial Light' has a distance of 3.5m? So what you see here is what is called a stimulus package

Hint! The plasma is not what is the secret to the last video's. It works fine with a capacitor (1kv ceramic) in place of the neon.