High Voltage from Thin Air?

[slayer007]

@slayer007

Interesting how only negative pulse is fed back to source input while positive goes to source battery.

and it also looks like the SEC has 12v on the - side and 18v on the + .

I would have never thought of wiring it up like this... Hmm!



Can you see if it will work with less input voltage? Might need to be re tuned. Also I didn't think adding another SEC would increase power, but it might, I am not sure. a 1 hour charge beats the snot out of my solid state Bedini. Interesting. Like always. I would imagine the cap on the charging end is necessary for the counterbalance action...

Do you think SEC can condition batteries like that?

Thank you for your generosity :-)

The way the caps wired to the negative side it will only fill up to the run battery voltage.

Then the current intake will drop to 0 and it will quit running.(This is with the AV plugs disconnected)

So I'm using a little more voltage on the run battery side to get the cap voltage up high enought to charge the battery.

And then the voltage from the AV plugs help to bring it way up.

[jonnydavro]

Hi.I have started a new thread to discuss other circuits to achieve spatial energy coherence as i don't want to send this thread off course.I have started the ball rolling with a joule thief exciter.Here's the link.Regards jonny.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=4999

[baroutologos]

Hello to all,

Excuse my theorizer attitude in this post but i want to understand few things about SEC.
Dr Stiffler if i understand well make a clear distinction between a "forced" resonance in an LC circuit driven by a distinct coil and a distinct capacitor,
and,
the resonance obtained by a coil with stray capacitance driven at its fundamental natural frequency. Right?

This is how SEC exciter works more or less, this is how the Tesla coils work more or less.

What about (especially at low voltages cases) for coils made pancake biffilar type (per Tesla patent) driven at their fundamental resonance frequency, which is of course, quite lower than signle wire ones?

Anyone any results of that?

Baroutologos

[slayer007]

Here is another sketch of the circuit I was using in my last video.

I'm using two Sec's with the L2 coil wound around each other on the same board.

The second Sec would be added to the cap like the first in the circuit.

Using just one Sec you should see simular results.

The diode comming off the cap to the charge battery is a 1N5399.
It can be substituted of a differant value.

[slayer007]

Allcanadian from the OU forum cleaned it up.

Thanks Allcanadian.

[MGC]

Slayer Circuit

slayer007,
Is there a cap between the collector and D1 or D1 and L3 ?
Looks like this would short out the 18v battery.


Thank you,
Mike

[slayer007]

slayer007,
Is there a cap between the collector and D1 or D1 and L3 ?
Looks like this would short out the 18v battery.


Thank you,
Mike

No, There is no cap between collector and D1.

There also is No L3 coil.
Just the Av plug going back to C2 the big cap.

[plengo]

Hey Slayer007,

I tried your circuit but all it will do is burn the L2 coil. It is a direct short circuit for the 18v battery. Something is not correct in that diagram.

I also analysed your video and it does look like this diagram to me (see picture on next post). Notice that the difference is that instead of connecting the negative of the two 9v batteries to the positive of the cap you are connecting it to the NEGATIVE of the cap which is ALSO the negative of the SEC.

Please, correct me on this one.

Fausto.

[plengo]

picture of Slayer007 diagram based on the youtube video.

[slayer007]

Hey Slayer007,

I tried your circuit but all it will do is burn the L2 coil. It is a direct short circuit for the 18v battery. Something is not correct in that diagram.

I also analysed your video and it does look like this diagram to me (see picture on next post). Notice that the difference is that instead of connecting the negative of the two 9v batteries to the positive of the cap you are connecting it to the NEGATIVE of the cap which is ALSO the negative of the SEC.

Please, correct me on this one.

Fausto.

Sorry Plego

There is an error in the circuit.

I will redo a sketch this morning.

[slayer007]

Sorry there was an error in the C2 cap polarity.

Also C2 was moved to the other side of the filter.

Transistor= MPSA06
F1= Ferrite beads 65 ohm @ 100 MHz
C1= .01 cap.
C2= 4400 uf cap.
C3= 470 pf cap.
R1= 1 Meg. resistor
L1= 2-20 uh variable inductor with ferrite rod for tunning.
L2= 22 uh coil
D1= 1N4148 diode
D2= 1N5399 diode

[Freezer]

Hey Slayer,

I redrew the schematic for you, hope I didn't mess anything up. Would be nice to have a sec 12v charger, rather than use the bedini with my noisy wheel.

Edit: Just saw that slayer, corrected.

[slayer007]

Thanks Freezer

It looks Great.

Thank you.

[plengo]

@Slayer007

not to "throw sand in your soup" (a Brazilian expression), i tried again this latest variation of your design and it again cooked the L2. It is still a direct path for the current from the driving 18v battery against the 12v battery, therefore charging it pretty fast to the cost of depleting the driving battery until voltage on cap can equalize things.

It must be something still missing. I looked at your hand writing and the schematic Freezer transcribed.

Great work though,

Fausto.

[slayer007]

@Slayer007

not to "throw sand in your soup" (a Brazilian expression), i tried again this latest variation of your design and it again cooked the L2. It is still a direct path for the current from the driving 18v battery against the 12v battery, therefore charging it pretty fast to the cost of depleting the driving battery until voltage on cap can equalize things.

It must be something still missing. I looked at your hand writing and the schematic Freezer transcribed.

Great work though,

Fausto.

Try running it with the AV plug disconnected.
And check the voltage across the AV plug.

Also check to make sure the diodes are ok.

You could also put a small cap in between the collector and AV plug.
It wont charge as fast this way but it should save your L2 coil.

I never had this problem I fried a couple diodes in my AV plug trying to high a voltage.
But never had a problem with the L2 coil.