High Voltage from Thin Air?

[DrStiffler]

So, I finally get home and get a chance to upload to Youtube some videos showing my "self-runners".

I was also able to replicate my own replication of self-runner V1 which is tricky but definitely doable. It must be very well balanced so have it but I did it again.

If it keeps oscillating it will run indefinitely simply because it uses so little current and creates so much energy that it is only up to the battery to convert that energy into real stored energy that can be reused by the system. In other words, if the battery can convert what would be usually a "ghost" voltage into usable voltage fast enough, it will work. For that, one must tune the variable capacitor into a "half-way" position (value) until it is not consuming too much neither too little but enough to keep the oscillations to a positive level.

Just wait for the pictures and video on next posts.

Fausto.

video 1: YouTube - 2010_0105SEC18-SelfRunner20010.AVI
video 2: YouTube - 2010_0105SEC18-SelfRunner20011.AVI
video 3: YouTube - 2010_0105SEC18-SelfRunner20012.AVI
video 4: YouTube - 2010_0105SEC18-SelfRunner20021.AVI

@Plengo & All

Must admit I have a bit of a problem seeing where the coherence is taking place. My first blush guess is the long lead dress of the configuration and for sure this is a closed circuit in one sense.

The ground is a bit problematic in that "plengo" please be sure you do not have any ground loops. I can not see any in you video's, but all it would take is a scope ground or something else that could cause the looping. Remember way back when you had all the LED's fired up from a ground loop.

Okay if no ground loop this is very remarkable. I am blown away by the 25W LED working at all. The charge rate is a bit below my systems, but them again I am not driving a 25W LED either.

I would be interested to see what changes when you dress it down and compact in a small package. If it continues to do what it is now, I have a major refit to think about on SEC Theory, I can't now fit the lattice into what you have.

Keep at it, you know what battery charging is all about so I trust what you see in the end.

After this all shakes out I will post a video on the open self runner and bias battery charger.

GREAT WORK!

[plengo]

Good stuff Plengo.
Btw, I would recommend you keep your laptap well away from
this circuit.
I shudder to think of the voltages that might be induced on your
mother board ... or the risk you put to your disk drive, etc.

If my wife can crash my laptop with her mind, I'm pretty
sure Dr. Stiffler's SEC circuit might have an effect an a laptop
as well.
Certainly his video camera's audio circuitry can get swamped
with induced voltage noise.

It is funny you say that because before last night my COMPUTER broke "mysteriously".

Fausto.

[plengo]

Hi Plengo,
thanks for sharing and compliments for the work.
You've tried the self runner with the power led?
What results did you get?
Thanks

Luco

That one is amazing. I had to stop last night for two reasons. One to try again the one battery experiment since it stopped on me and I felt bad for mentioning it here and have nothing to show. Two, I want to rest the batteries a little bit so that the voltages stabilize and them I will swap them and run it again.

That version with 2 batteries works amazingly well. The charge battery goes up pretty well while the drive battery loose so little energy.

Fausto.

[wonderful]

@ Plengo
GREAT WORK and thanks for the reply.
I'm Waiting for some prototypes of power LED from a supplier.
I will try them as soon as my health will allow me to go in the lab, (only a few days, I hope).

@ The Doc, @ All
I am really happy to have met you
This is truly the most beautiful place in the network
thanks for everything you are doing.
God bless you.

Luco

[amigo]

...
I am blown away by the 25W LED working at all. The charge rate is a bit below my systems, but them again I am not driving a 25W LED either.
...

Just though to chime in here as I had a big LED like plengo's working with old SEC Exciter designs months ago, I thought it was not a big deal and that you knew this?

Matter a fact I have been thinking for months now that those small LEDs we are using are puny compared to the big wattage LEDs and that's why I tried the mega LED.

Further more, the added bonus is that because the type of energy being produced by SEC Exciter is "cold" the LED does not get hot all. These kinds of LEDs have to sit on a fairly big chunk of metal for cooling and they draw in excess of 1 A of current.

It is definitely a bonus not having any heat produced or needing cooling, and using up only a fraction of current required, through the exciter.

[Tecstatic]

Please check this link.

@plengo,

What you have achieved is fantastic, no less

Regarding the charging of the battery, please check this link for how to measure the resonance of the battery electrolyte.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post79945

I have a used rejuvenated 12V/7Ah SLA battery, It resonates nicely at 12MHz measured as in the link, but also with a 1nF silver mica in series with the 1kohm resistor, as I don't want to send 12mA into my signal generator.

As I have been very fond of using 12MHz, this is nice.

What is the resonance frequency of your batteries ?
Do you have a LUX meter, so you can measure the light intensity ?

@amigo
I was not aware you could light the big wattage LED to full brightness.

Eric

[ashtweth]

Hi Ash,
The link don't work anymore
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Spa...20Stiffler.pdf

Thanks for checking my friend, all fixed up now
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Spa...20Stiffler.pdf

[plengo]

Some more updates. So I left my "selfrunner" running all night, all day and tonight too. I have been keeping logs of the voltages of the battery and the time at when it is taken.

A pattern is emerging. The voltage increases and drops at a periodic rate but not that obvious which rate it is. Variable capacitor MUST be set to a half-full power output ( observed by the brightness of the LEDs ) otherwise it will only drain the battery. At the correct setting battery voltage should start rising at a slow rate but rise.

Brightness will increase with the voltage too, off course.

Twice I had the voltage dropping so fast that I could not believe it. I thought it was the end of my "selfrunner" but than I notice something interesting. The SEC 18 was no longer oscillating which causes the LEDs to be fed only by the battery and not by the coherent energy.

Once I notice that I changed some of the faulty connections and the baby is back to life again. Some more videos were posted at youtube to show that.

I trully think this is a selfrunner because the battery is already dead (under 11 volts) and still can keep the LEDs light and bright and the voltage fluctuating mostly up with overall gain in total voltage.

It is important to note that when a battery is in that low, very low voltage range, it accepts easier any charge (specially ghost charges) which may be enough to keep the SEC 18 oscillating.

Fausto.

Videos at:
1) YouTube - 2010_0106SEC18-SelfRunner20001.AVI
2) YouTube - 2010_0106SEC18-SelfRunner20002.AVI
3) YouTube - 2010_0106SEC18-SelfRunner20003.AVI
4) YouTube - 2010_0106SEC18-SelfRunner20004.AVI

[Lidmotor]

Plengo's SEC 18 experiment

@Plengo
I tried to replicate your one battery circuit and with a few adjustment got it to run. I did this just to see if I could get the SEC to oscillate wired up this way. It is an interesting circuit. I could not come to any conclusions as to performance. I was just glad to see the SEC operate this way.
Here is a video of how I set it up:

YouTube - SEC 18---The Plengo experiment.ASF

Lidmotor

[plengo]

Hey Lidmotor,

I saw it last night. You made my day. I am not craizy. THANK YOU!

Yes, I loved the variation you have done because that totally explains why it works so well. The capacitor you used helps with the tunning a lot. So , last night (my fifth night non stop running this one version) I added a cap around the LEDs to see the effect you show in your video and indeed the cap charges up while SEC is oscillating and at the same time prevents more current coming out from the battery so "automagically" keeping the system the most efficient as possible.

Unfortunately this setup does not allow the best light brightness as one may wish but nonethless is an excellent example of how to make things more efficient.

So, after running my V3 for 5 days and it is still running I am very satisfied that this indeed is extremely efficient setup. I dont think it is a self-runner any longer using an SLA battery simply because the battery with time can not convert the energy fast enough to real charge.

If I stop the SEC the battery voltage went up to 10.45v which is a much higher voltage of when I started at 10.31. But it is not really (I think , I have not tested since the battery is literally dead) real charge but ghost charge, still useful charge for an SEC.

I am going to use this setup for my next version. I already ordered a few more SEC 18 from Dr. Stiffler and he was kind to ship them extremely fast to me.

Fausto

[Lidmotor]

SEC experiments

@Plengo
I enjoyed working with your circuit. The way that I set it up it didn't self-run but the amp draw was only 10 mA when I got it tuned just right. What I learned from the experiment was that if you adjust the number of LEDs in the string down to where they are really being slightly over-driven, the light output is more. This might shorten the life of the leds but the gain in lumens is worth it. The two leds that I showed in my video really lit up the room last night when it got dark.
Thanks for taking so much time to explore this variant circuit. I'm sure that Dr. Stiffler appreciates your efforts.

Lidmotor

[plengo]

Yeap, my one lights the room during the night and indeed it is a conforting feeling.

If you play with the correct number of LEDs and the correct ones ( each one changes the outcome ) you will run this for less than 10ma, most like 1ma.

Fausto.

[Freezer]

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[Web000x]

Hey!

Alright, I bought a SEC 18-1 from Dr. Stiffler and am trying to replicate his wireless transmission using his specifications. I noticed that the circuit shown on his wireless documents isn't quite the same as the SEC layout. Is there some trick out there to modify this board to work run the wireless towers or do I need to go find some trimmer caps and make another SEC?



Dave

[ABCStore]

If you play with the correct number of LEDs and the correct ones ( each one changes the outcome ) you will run this for less than 10ma, most like 1ma.

Fausto.

How about 12.86v 0.421mA (5.4 milliwatt)? 8 LEDs, 4 pairs of 2 parallel, semi-bright.



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