MYLOW121363's Johnson motor

[dyetalon]

In case you haven't watched yet:
YouTube - MYLOW121363's Channel

Is there anything in his video that may be disguised as an electromagnet or any other way of powering the rotor?

If he was turning the rotor by hand, it wouldn't move so smoothly and consistently. It seems to be authentic.

[Inquorate]

Howard johnson

Another one gone. Found an interesting site in which H johnson claims that in permanent magnets, electrons are all spinning in one direction but not moving as in a copper wire. I got stuck on thinking about the atomic matrix. Duh, of course it's the electrons. Page 3 and 4 of bodkins primary state of matter has analogies to a bath tub and washing machine that help visualize what is happening to aether to create magnetic field and also gravity.

Build Your Own Howard Johnson Magnetic Motor

@ aaron - Can we (ie you) invite / fast-track this youtube user to the forum?

[Aaron]

approval

Inquorate, if anyone contacts him and pm's me his email or username, I'll approve it.

Usually everyone is approved quick but there are so many sign ups that it is hard to keep up with.

[dyetalon]

Inquorate, if anyone contacts him and pm's me his email or username, I'll approve it.

Usually everyone is approved quick but there are so many sign ups that it is hard to keep up with.

Just a little update: My origional link doesn't work anymore. Not sure why, but here's the new link-
YouTube - howard johnson magnetic motor

more info here: OS: MYLOW's Magnetic Motor based on Howard Johnson's Design - PESWiki

[Joit]

One Link more for a earlier Design of H. Johnson.

And a Pdf where it shows at 1-16 more Details of the Motor.

[dyetalon]

The links keep changing. Here's one that works:

YouTube - hoawrd johnson magnetic motor

[jibbguy]

Is this the ONE?

Listening to Sterling's radio interview last night (and from some searching); some things became apparent.

First, MYLOW appears to be is a regular working guy with no ulterior motives (very refreshing lol). None of the often-seen inventor head-games, ego trips, or little kept-back secrets. He is ALL ABOUT Open Source!! WOOT!!

Second, a Plexiglas rotor plate may work instead of the expensive and hard-to come by aircraft-quality aluminum plate MYLOW used, as that is what H.J. used originally (but we yet don't know if the rotor's weight is an important issue, for "flywheel" effect).

Third, i found it is very normal for steel magnets (like MYLOW's stator mag) to quickly lose Gauss when used in "repulser" mode, so it should not be an inherent problem of this particular design.

Fourth, it may be very expensive to get Neo's in that "U" shape (and the shape would appear to be required); at least until China or whom ever manufactures them starts to mass-produce them. But sintered "Alinco's" should suffice for the rotor mags in a basic replication demonstrator.

Fifth, MYLOW stated that when he tried to put a second stator mag 180 deg. from the first, it didn't work at all no matter how he orientated it (interesting insight worth some thought as to how it all works).

COULD THIS BE OUR MAGIC BULLET?? The self-running "mass-replicator" shown at a hundred local colleges and news outlets around the world... The one that is cheap & easy to build?

[theremart]

Update.

http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_No...agnetMotor.mp3

That is the audio interview with Sterling.

There is a yahoo group for this now.
mylow_magmo : MYLOW's Howard Johnson Magnet Motor copy

They are working on replications as the next move, which I think is very very wize.

I myself am not 100% convinced, We have not seen a wide pan of the device running for 9 min. Many other videos look good, but we need to know if this can be replicated.

I HOPE this is real!

[Karl_Palsness]

Mylow's lawyer brings MIB guy who takes his motor and papers




John Bedini on the Mylow Saga

On April 05, 2009 12:38 PM, John Bedini wrote:
(Slightly edited; links added)

Sterling,

I don't talk very much about different things. But I feel that I must say this to you. Mylow should have started a group long ago and had all the skeptics goof everything up like they did the SG, some times it's better to take that kick in the pants and not say anything to anybody about your sad moments.

I know you have built magnetic motors which did not work, you claimed the SG did not work but so what, as others did get it to work and are very happy. The mistake with Mylow is he did not have any protection because he did not have enough failures in the public groups like I did.

I now sit back and thank you for all the public attacking of my machine with all the negative comments, people only have to look at that group to see the bashing that has gone on with a simple invention.

As Mylow found, out changing things only causes failure; and it is reported that way. That is protection; and "THEY" do not come looking then.

If you remember, there are DVD's on Howard Johnson, books and associated articles. Anybody can make this work at a very limited level: no power and low speed. A real, true magnet motor has a speed of 5000 RPM's and "THEY" will take that from you, and you will never talk again about it.

Mylow's machine does prove over unity of >1 but you could not take any power from that. What I see is that the only hope that people have at this time because of mind blocks in physics is solar panels, wind machines, water power, and combustion. We have not even got out of the dark ages in the way we think. We are all brainwashed into thinking physics is just one way only, what a mistake. What would happen if all the power systems would fail today what would you do?

What is free energy since nothing is free out there, it cost for everything, and you must pay for it with phony money you work hard for.

Mylow is lucky as MIB's do not take things from you and then bring them back. You get two choices in life, MONEY or DEATH. This was not the secret people in black taking things away, because you never talk again about it. Mylow is now branded as a quack, just like Howard Johnson. I did follow his progress and only to see all the skeptics appear and try to build his vision of Howard Johnson's motor. They changed it so now it does not work, that is [the] next attack.

The magnets are very easy to make. No big deal, as regular horseshoe magnet work the same. It's just a spacing difference, but must be set up the same.

Just wait until the great Obama change takes effect: no money, no food, no energy, just candles for light -- if you can get them -- and many homeless walking the streets. "NO ENERGY FOR YOU."

What Mylow saw as a wave was magnetic streams; no electrons at all, since there are none; and no one has ever seen one. Yes, pure magnetic streams with all the power of the universe at one's finger tips.

My heart goes out to Mylow and his family for his hard work but the mistake is already made.

John

You have my permission to print this as I hide nothing.
cc Rense/ Tom Bearden/ Tony C
cc all the groups.

[rickoff]

Mylow magnet placement and measurements

Hi folks,

I scaled some very careful measurements of Mylow's magnets as used in his working model, and decided to post them here for reference because some of the measurements given at Peswiki's MYLOW OS site are not correct.

Rick


Edit: Although these measurements are correct for the tabletop photo layout shown by MYLOW, the 4 mm gap between the stator magnets is not the actual gap used for MYLOW's working model. See post #23 for the actual working model measurements.

[rickoff]

Latest MYLOW setup

The photo below shows an image from MYLOW's video of the working model which used the magnet sizes and placements as shown in my previous post. Note that MYLOW only had 55 of the alnico channel magnets. He had originally installed the magnets in groups of seven, but did not have enough magnets to complete the job, so removed the center magnet from each group and used those magnets to make additional groupings. He ended up with one magnet left, and a large space between the last group and the first group of magnets, so installed the 55th rotor magnet to make a group of 4 magnets and reduce the wide space between that group and the first group. The space is still somewhat larger than the other wide spacings between magnet groups. I feel certain that if MYLOW had been able to procure more of the same size alnico rotor magnets, he could have made a continuous circle using 4 mm spacing between each magnet, and with no wide spaces at all, and that his setup would have run much better. Alternatively, MYLOW could have placed the 55 magnets far enough inwards from the perimeter so as to allow a full circle of 4 mm spaced magnets. You can see, in the replication videos posted by others, that the rotor turns nicely while the stator is passing the rotor magnets, but that hesitation or failure occurs at the wide gaps between magnet groupings. As you look at the photo below, it will be rather apparent that non-symmetry of the magnet placements causes a considerable weight imbalance, which will prevent the rotor from gaining speed. I suspect that the aluminum rotor is also slowing rotation.

Rick





Edit: Although the PES radio interview with MYLOW had Sterling saying that the aluminum rotor diameter is 17.5 inches, and although MYLOW did not disagree with that figure, MYLOW had measured the diameter at 17.75 inches, and thickness at 1/4 inch, in a video which can be seen here:
YouTube - (VIDEO ADD #4) How Mylow Replicated Howard Johnson's Magnet Motor

[Mark]

Rickoff, my understanding is that you do NOT want symmetry in the stator magnets. Mylow and Stirling have stated the non-symmetry is the key to get it to work.

[cody]

I agree with you Mark, if we are to accept that this thing is real, we must also accept that we currently dont understand it, otherwise we would have made it a long time ago

I dont think we can dare to make any improvements on it until we can get it to work in the first place. Its interesting to see that Bedini is supporting this, it gives more credit to it. Either way, those exact measurements will be useful for replicators, so thanks Rick

Im just curious if anyone interested in this thread has been playing with this device at all, i mean even just some of the basic concepts and if they have any results to share. Bedini seems to think that it would be easy to make the magnets if so desired, so if someone has some knowledge on that maybe it would get some things happening around here.

Here is what i have been doing:
Rotor/bearing- computer hard drive

rotor mags- sets of 2 small neo's facing N&S with common steel back to act like a horseshoe mag

stator mag- Bent steel bar into horseshoe and put 2 weak ceramic mags on either end facing N&S

Results: well it dosnt work like Mylows yet, but it does go through a few sets. I have noticed that mylows behaves differently than mine. His isnt as effected by the gaps like you would expect it to be, it just smoothly cruises through them. Mine has very distinct and typical behavior over the gaps. Im also seeing that in the other replications, they behave as expected, all lumpy like. So whatever we are doing wrong, i think it has to do with that. I know this is not the correct materials or dimensions, but its what i had on hand and if nothing else maybe it will inspire someone to out do me

Hopefully Mylow will get his instructions done soon, but i think we already have everything we need, it may just take experimenting to get a feel for the art.

[cody]

Here you go, the white thing is a 4in pvc coupler cut in half to glue the magnets to. Its currently pretty much taken apart as i have been experementing with many configurations. Currently you notice im using single mags on the rotor, it appears to behave the same either way, but keep in mind, mines still not working so i cant say weather its necessary or not. You can see how i rigged my previous horseshoe rotor mags sitting on the table, they just have a piece of steel on their back. And the stator mag is the bent bar with 2 ceramic mags on the ends. I have been positioning my stator on the outside of the wheel as of latley, seems to behave the same.

[rickoff]

Latest MYLOW design

This was the latest design update from the last video posted by MYLOW before he took down all his videos. This design uses a different magnet layout, and a new stator magnet supplied by Sterling.

Rick