Perpetual Motion Holder | Edward Leedskalnin

[redrichie]

Made a PMH with the steel wire tonight. The wire is not enamel coated as I first thought. It is a very thin plastic. Maybe twice as thick as the enamel magnet wire. This is 18ga wire. Terrible to wrap. 50 ft spools gave me a 3 inch long coil. about 8 layers @320 turns.
I used an 11 inch long (26 inch total) iron "U" bolt. was able to establish flux path as usual. Not sure if steel wire made any difference or not. But i sure had to use my trucks battery in order to have any real effect. will try a control with copper wire coils as soon as possible.
I used a small piece of copper pipe as the form for the coil. Will this have any effect on the inductance? As in degrading the initial pulse somehow? I believe I can remove if necessary.

[Dave45]

magnetic levitation ouch

YouTube - levitation melting with induction heating

if you watch the metal being melted using induction you can see the spiraling poles as they pass through the medium

[uusedman]

Hey uusedman,
Ed wrote in his notes to connect the coils so that the currents are running in both coils at the same time.

This means that you connect the start of one coil (a) to the end of the other (d)...and the end of the first (b) to the start of the other (c).
The coils remain closed...then you just connect your battery to (ad) and (bc)

@loadstone

I did not yield favorable results using this setups. The metal pieces don't have the same attraction and weak attraction status. The way we are connecting gives a considerable more attraction as opposed by the schematic you stated.

I tried pulsing the PMH with a Tesla Switch Setup. Once I am done with that, I will post a video.

[Loadstone]

Hey Uusedman,
Strange you didn't get good results?
I always have mine connected the way i described.
You can see it in this test I did to see how much mine could hold.
YouTube - Edward Leedskalnin's pmh 23lbs.MOV

Maybe just check to see you had it all correct.

[Iotayodi]

I did not yield favorable results using this setups. The metal pieces don't have the same attraction and weak attraction status.
Strange you didn't get good results?
I always have mine connected the way i described.

For my edification can you both describe the type of soft iron used and diameter. Is it 1018 steel or other type? The battery source and amperes. The hookup of the windings as far as cw or ccw in respect to each other. If both your coils and core are identical in size,and the wiring the same,then it may be a materiel problem. A higher carbon steel will not work as well.

[uusedman]

For my edification can you both describe the type of soft iron used and diameter. Is it 1018 steel or other type? The battery source and amperes. The hookup of the windings as far as cw or ccw in respect to each other. If both your coils and core are identical in size,and the wiring the same,then it may be a materiel problem. A higher carbon steel will not work as well.

The setups that are in question is as follows:

setup 1 : Connecting the start of the first coil to the end of the second coil. Connect the positive of battery to the end of the first coil and the negative to the start of the second coil.

setup 2:Connect the the start of the first coil to the end of the second coil. Connect the end of the first coil to the start of the second coil. Connect positive of the battery to the first set and negative to the second set.

I am using a Steel core, don't know which type. The battery source does not matter to this principals since the energy source is the same for both setups. what is cw and ccw? There is more or less attractions based on which setup you do. Maybe I will do a video to show the difference in attraction.

[Iotayodi]

The battery source does not matter to this principals since the energy source is the same for both setups. what is cw and ccw?

A power source with higher amps gives a stronger field. More domains lined up.
Cw is Clockwise and Ccw is counterclockwise. The south pole or input side flows cw and the output or north pole flows ccw.
I can only see 2 reasons for a major difference in identical wired setups. The rod materiel or amount of voltage/amps. Thats why I asked about the batterys voltage and amps and if they were close to identical.

[uusedman]

A power source with higher amps gives a stronger field. More domains lined up.
Cw is Clockwise and Ccw is counterclockwise. The south pole or input side flows cw and the output or north pole flows ccw.
I can only see 2 reasons for a major difference in identical wired setups. The rod materiel or amount of voltage/amps. Thats why I asked about the batterys voltage and amps and if they were close to identical.

The energy sources (Voltage/AMP) for both setups is the same.

I will retest to make sure.

[penno64]

@Loadstone,

Hi Scotty,

I really like the PMH and flywheel from your youtubes.

Where have you been able to access the Model T Ford V magnets and
flywheel ?

I too am in Oz, but Parramatta way in Sydney.

I was at the Metal dealer today buying 8mm rod to repair a childs car. I noticed the 20mm x 10mm flat bar at $30 per 6.5m length. I am toying with the idea of getting a few lenghts, cutting to 250mm and using heat, bend
them into V's.

What are your thoughts on this. I see you have done so much in this area.

Also, dave lambrights pipe job. looks much easier to setup- any thoughts.

Kind Regards, Penno

[Aaron]

Reversable Permanent Magnet

Kind of seems similar:
reversible permanent magnet

Don't want to go off topic here if it isn't similar.
Maybe can start a new thread on this.

[Rubberband]

Pmh

The vid was cool, but wasn't that just another form of a PMH? Is this person at MIT trying to take credit for inventing this? Maybe I'm just not seeing something here????

[Aaron]

pmh

The vid was cool, but wasn't that just another form of a PMH? Is this person at MIT trying to take credit for inventing this? Maybe I'm just not seeing something here????

MIT tries to take credit for everything. Just like the "wireless electricity"
deal not too long ago when it was just like magnetic induction. Well,
my old electric toothbrush is wireless technology. Quite a joke really but
anyway, looks like some kind of PMH variation. I didn't have time to search
out more references or articles on it. Probably on MIT's site somewhere.

[Rl2003]

Why not just have the coil on the PMH with a center tap. One end will be for holding and the other end would activate the release?? Center is the neutral.
Will that work?
Mark P.

Kind of seems similar:
reversible permanent magnet

Don't want to go off topic here if it isn't similar.
Maybe can start a new thread on this.

[Matthew Jones]

MIT tries to take credit for everything. Just like the "wireless electricity"
deal not too long ago when it was just like magnetic induction. Well,
my old electric toothbrush is wireless technology. Quite a joke really but
anyway, looks like some kind of PMH variation. I didn't have time to search
out more references or articles on it. Probably on MIT's site somewhere.

https://www.htw-saarland.de/fut/fue-...tovic_2002.pdf

This guy has reversible magnets. All it takes is a small pulse of energy. Coarse there is no formula, but he's using alnico and ferrite materials

Matt

[Magneticitist]

one coil PMH

YouTube - One Coil PMH

i found this a while back in an old german reel-to-reel. this old machine had stuff like selenium rectifiers, supercaps, vacuum tubes.. everything ran at 50hz and also apparently it had this PMH-like coil with just the one winding on the center. when i found it the bottom bar was already detached but it would have been nice if it was on to see if it was still charged after so long. if i had never read up on Ed beforehand i never would have known what it was, but i still honestly dont know what its function was in the reel-to-reel. i figure if it was just a switch why not use a regular solenoid. these E cores are on like any transformer so i wonder if this would work with the steel plates they usually come in.

held a charge that was releasable undiminished after i believe it was a couple weeks long, and im sure would have lasted as long as a normal PMH.